Your Silent Face

I think that this song is about how they felt about Ian Curtis offing himself:

"A thought that never changes Remains a stupid lie It's never been quite the same No hearing or breathing No movement, no colors Just silence"

Joy Division were on the doorstep of making it big and heading to the US to tour, but after Ian killed himself it never happened, so Bernard could only think of what could have been and since it never changed it became just a stupid lie. Ever since Ian died nothing has been the same for them

"Rise and fall of shame A search that shall remain We asked you what you'd seen You said you didn't care"

Not so sure about this part, but perhaps it refers to how big they had gotten and then the fall after his suicide. Then the search to get back to where they were [which obviously they were able to].

"Sound formed in a vacuum May seem a waste of time It's always been just the same No hearing or breathing No movement no lyrics Just nothing"

Now that he's dead there's nothing there, no movement and no lyrics, just nothing.

"The sign that leads the way The path we can not take You've caught me at a bad time So why don't you piss off"

This part could be about how Joy Division were ready to hit it big time but now they can't take that path, and they are rather pissed off about that and losing Ian.

The title itself, "Your Silent Face", maybe after his death all they saw were photos of him everywhere...hence "your silent face"

I'm far from being sure about the point of this one, but I'm gonna try to find it anyway...

Well, I think it's about a person who is trying to find a new meaning for his own life after witnessing (or even taking part in) something shameful ("Rise and fall of shame / A search that shall remain / We asked you what you'd seen / You said you didn't care"), so he put himself in a kind of meditational trip, which has really bothered his friends ("The sign that leads the way / The path we can not take / You've caught me at a bad time / So why don't you piss off") 'cos now he's living a life in 'black&white' and practically without communication for trying 'to see the light in the end of the tunnel' at last.

Regarding more specifically these lines below, I think Barney meant he's so busy at that 'trip' that he cannot even for a second consider other opinions, nevertheless their friends still have some hope about his return to mental sanity.

"A thought that never changes Remains a stupid lie It's NEVER been quite the same No hearing or breathing No movement, no colors Just silence"

And their friends are almost giving up for trying to bring him back to the reality ("Sound formed in a vacuum / May seem a waste of time / It's ALWAYS been just the same")...

In short, I think Barney is making a mockery of that 'guru' thing, despite the solemn tone of its melody...

Bernard Sumner said on stage at the concert in Chicago on Oct 12 that this song is about raising a teenager, as opposed to Here to Stay, which he said is about raising a child. So... straight from the horse's mouth.

I'm thinking it's about the evolution of the band after Curtis' death--the struggle to find their direction, the experiences with recording Movement (which is one of the most uneasy albums I've ever heard, much as I love it for that very reason), maybe even Barney's struggle to write lyrics and find his own voice. "Sound formed in a vacuum" might refer to the process of recording in a studio vs. playing live.

I love this song. Not exactly sure what it's about but maybe about someone who doesn't take life seriously.

I'm sure this song is about apathy

I meant "nevertheless HIS friends still have some hope about his return to mental sanity" and "And HIS friends are almost giving up for trying to bring him back to the reality". I insist on distracting myself when I must write possessive pronoums...

The lyrics are overwhelmed by the majestic keyboards and Bernard Sumner's melodica playing; the words therefore seem, at first listen, like nonsense. However, the song may be about the moment someone dies. With typical New Order black humor, even in death ("no hearing, no breathing, no movement, no colors, just silence"), the song's narrator is still able to deliver an insult ("why don't you piss off").

Its about Ian Curtis. The lines "You caught me at a bad time So why dont you piss off"

is in reference to the fact that Bernard Sumners vocals on New Orders first album 'Movement' were being compared to Ians. There you have it.

What a magnificent song! The synthesizer provides a grand atmosphere. However.... what's the meanings behind?