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| Marilyn Manson – Kinderfeld Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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But how does that fit into the concept of the entire album? And who would be the "voice that we have not yet heard"? And, in that case, who is the "disintegrator".
If my general view of this song as well as the album are correct, then I can answer the above questions. With your interpretation, how do you answer them? |
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| Marilyn Manson – GodEatGod Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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Most of it is a reference to the JFK assassination, laying the first seeds that become the album. In his view, JFK became a kind of godlike figure following his assassination, with everyone pledging loyalty to JK, etc., but only after his death.
(the reference to the black limosine)
It compares that in certain lines to the way that, in Manson's view, the views of Christ have also been twisted to represent something very different.
(Dear god if you were alive you know we'd kill you)
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| Marilyn Manson – Dogma Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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One problem...that last word should be "rape"...and the lyric corrections are working slowly. |
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| Marilyn Manson – Disassociative Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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Really? I'd always thought that it was the worst song on MA....
Not that it's horrible, just worst relatively. MA is my favourite album. |
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| Marilyn Manson – Cruci-fiction In Space Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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Question for whomever: Who precisely is Jack supposed to be? I'd gathered that this Jack is a reference to the Jack from the AntiChrist Superstar storyline, who (correct me if I'm wrong) was the main character of the album.
Also, is the Holy Wood, as a concept, supposed to represent the Christian community? All as trees, unable to change their views (immobile), and all trapped in a world of conformity. Also, of course, an allusion to the cross (And I'm nailed to the Holy Wood), but could it work as both? The use of "Holy Wood" in the song "Valentine's Day" leads me to believe this. |
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| Thursday – I Am The Killer Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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First, isn't the lead vocalist gay...wouldn't be a girlfriend.
Secondly, the song is about self-incrimination. The action that the song refers to is not important, what matters is that the narrator blames himself for it senselessly. He seems to even understand this, yet continues with it. His own hatred of himself leads to his Full Collapse, hence the cd title, though the album is less conceptual than that seems.
This is definitely the best song on "Full Collapse", though I also like "Cross Out The Eyes" and "Paris In Flames" a lot. |
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| Dir En Grey – Mazohyst Of Decadence Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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This is probably my favourite Dir en Grey song. Even with the Japanese lyrics, the imagery present within the song lends itself to self-explanation. |
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| Marilyn Manson – Disposable Teens Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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I like the analysis of music=meaning, more or less. I think that his "adults" could be more otherwise translated as "God", but more or less correct.
Ape of God, I think, though stating his being one of God's creation, also mocks the anti-evolutionary beliefs of some arch-conservatives, by using the term ape |
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| Marilyn Manson – Coma White Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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Speaking of how Omega and Alpha's parts are interrelated...if we're doing this the same way as Ziggy Stardust, when we could just say that Omega's growing bitterness with the world and with the evil exploitation of the corporate music industry is analogous to Alpha's (assuming the Alpha exists) growing love/infatuation with Coma White, and his dependance upon her. In the end, each of their lives essentially end in the climax of the album, but they die in very different ways, one through the eternal loss of Coma White, the other through...emotional resignation to the world in "Fundamentally Loathesome" (or is "The Last Day On Earth" an Omega song? I think I remember a reference to Coma White, which leads to Alpha, but I'm too lazy to check for certain).
Anyway, this all fits in with the way that the Rise and Fall of Ziggy is analogous to the death of the earth in Bowie's album. The candle burns brightest just before it is snuffed out. |
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| David Bowie – Rock 'n' Roll Suicide Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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In the story of Ziggy, I think it deals with the suicide of Lady Stardust after she's killed the Spiders from Mars, who had killed Ziggy, though that's all speculative. It's the end of the album, the end of the band, and the end of the world. |
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| David Bowie – Starman Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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"All this new stuff is unimaginative bullshit"
Excuse me? This is from Ziggy Stardust, and it's outstanding.
The Starman, in my nonofficial opinion, is symbolic of a godlike figure, who watches over the people. The reference at the end of the chorus is a reference to drug use among Ziggy and his band, or perhaps their fans. The narrator, or perhaps Ziggy, is told not to interfere with the consumption of alcohol.
Perhaps a better final line would be "Let the children all abuse it" |
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| Marilyn Manson – Coma White Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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Actually, the general plotline of Mechanical Animals does seem very similar to that of The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars...I guess Coma White would be the equivalency of Lady Stardust....
Side Question: I was listening to my Ziggy Stardust album, and I'm curious as to the possibility that Lady Stardust might be a male? Some of the phallic imagery in "Moonage Daydream" and hints in "Lady Stardust" lead me to believe this (I'll elaborate if you want, but you can probably catch most of it on your own). Also, regarding that album, am I correct in the assumption that Ziggy is killed by his bandmates, who are then killed by Lady Stardust, who then kills her/himself? I can justify that train of thought if you want me to...later.
Sorry that that's so inapplicable, I just guessed that it would be easier to get a response on this page.
Regarding your Alpha/Omega idea, I see how the lyrics are divided into two sections in the album, but I don't see how you're so sure that Alpha is the name of Omega's partner. Where do you get the name Alpha? I found the letter "A" in the lower left hand corner of one page, but aside from that, I really don't see how you're so sure that Alpha and Omega are separate people....
One side question, does anyone know the significance of the altered order in which the song titles are placed during the credits section of the MA album? "Disassociative" is listed as first, with "The Last Day On Earth" being last (the rest is messed up, as well).
I was wondering if a more clear plotline could be found by listening to them in the order found within the case...unless...Pelvic Thrust (hehe) has some insight?
Dream Theater...maybe I'll need to do a bit of research. |
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| Marilyn Manson – Coma White Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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Thank you...Pelvic Thrust (hehe...suggestive). I love people who analyze albums in a Bowie-esque way. It makes me happy.
I hadn't realized that Alpha was a character...I knew that Omega was a celebrity (he's actually the lead vocalist of a band (being Omega and the Mechanical Animals, much like Pink in Pink Floyd's "The Wall"). I'll have to look at the insert more carefully.
The song can't be about the breakup with Rose, I think, undisturbed. The breakup with Rose didn't occur until after the release of Holy Wood (Manson commented that he was still engaged to Rose during an interview with Kurt Loder following the HW:SOD album). |
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| Marilyn Manson – Lunchbox Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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There's also the following lines in a later refrain. They can be found in the inside of the Portrait of an American Family insert, next to the lyrics for Lunchbox:
Ever had fun as a child?
Ever sold yourself for a quarter?
It's the most...beautiful thing...
The last is just present. |
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| Marilyn Manson – Long Hard Road Out Of Hell Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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I also get, along with the video, a kind of homosexual theme in the chorus, "I wanna live, I wanna love, but it's a long, hard road out of hell." With the video conveying a lot of gender ambiguity and homosexual sex, it seems to be the case. The narrator seeks to avoid what he has been taught will cause damnation in order to be "holy", but the result scars him emotionally.
A side theme, to be certain, but a present one nevertheless, I believe. |
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| Marilyn Manson – Coma White Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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Two side questions:
Does anyone know what Coma White herself is supposed to symbolize (not in only this song, but in the entire album). She also has a part in "Posthuman" (the All that Glitters... section). I understand Omega's place in the album...but.... |
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| Marilyn Manson – Kinderfeld Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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That's interesting...I'd never seen the bylines of which lyrics belonged to which person...
Is Jack the character from AntiChrist superstar? He also appears in "Cruci-Fiction in Space" (if Jack was a Baptist, we'd drink wine from his hand).
And I think that Manson (or whomever the main character is) would be "having become the worm".
Another thing...this song, or an earlier version of it, was originally titled "Smells Like Children", being the title track of that album. A few lyrics changed, and the worm references are expanded upon, but it's mostly the same.
I wonder...if Kinderfeld is the era during which Manson, having been made a worm by society, becomes the Angel With the Scabbed Wings, then why is it AFTER "Angel with the Scabbed Wings" on the album? |
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| Marilyn Manson – Great Big White World Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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By the"storylioe, I'd hnterpreted that!this song fits qomewhert near tje end (but befope Coma Thite), eith mosd of the"album being Omeva looking back `t his lKfe.
The stitBhes itcxing is `n allushon to txe alter`tions done to hks body in the Dope Show- as the"corporade music0industrh capturgs him and turns him into a pop btar (sed the vifeo for more infnrmation).
Ong last...isn't id "Mothe` Mary, Miscarry" (one "@" in mapry)? That fits with thF world Being a qhallow and ugly!place, Kn that it shows that evgn the intervention of Gnd couldn't fix the world. |
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| Marilyn Manson – Get Your Gunn Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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Another thing...are these lyrics correct? I'm too lazy to check, but i sounds like it's "goddamn your lord" or "goddamn the lord", which fits the anti-pro-life anthemness. In any case, isn't goddamn but once? |
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| Marilyn Manson – A Place In The Dirt Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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Most of the people who would be offended by Manson don't know anything about his music. So they really wouldn't know what song to whine about, where they here.
In other words, this venue mainly attracts adherents. |
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| Marilyn Manson – Disassociative Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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I really don't see where everyone gets "drugs" out of Mechanical Animals. Certainly drugs are used, but I'd always viewed them as symbolic of something else, or used to stimulate imagery.
Anyway, I'd thought that this song was supposed to be the beginning of Omega's regression from reality, following is realization that "Rock Is Dead" and that he was nothing more than a star in corporate music's "dope show." (i.e., the previous tracks). |
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| Nine Inch Nails – March of the Pigs Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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I'd thought that the pigs are the disenfranchised people, as in swine. This is more obvious in "heresy" than in this song though, where the "sheep" are the Christians and the "swine" (i.e., pigs) are the people whom the Christians sought to defeat and destroy. So then, following their murder and mutilation in "heresy", they come back in "march of the pigs" to attack Christianity in rebuttal.
Then again, the "I want a little bit/piece of it" fits SwitchBlade's idea. |
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| Marilyn Manson – 1996 Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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I'm going to repeal my not caring much for the song, I had a bad recording of it. The album version is great.
Oh! A mistaken lyric. |
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| Marilyn Manson – The Beautiful People Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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And one more:
I'm not certain here, but I think that the "Hate every motherfucker that is in your way." is just intended to begin the cycle that leads to the climax of Antichrist Superstar (the album is a narrative album, telling a story). His hatred of hypocrisy leads to a hate of most everything, while paradoxically hating nothing. Or something like that.
Look at the lyrics to Manson's 1996. Very, very well-written. |
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| Marilyn Manson – Man That You Fear Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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I'd thought that the spinning meant that the people in the village were willing to blame their problems upon anyone and anything. The people in the Puritan village are symbolic of the people in today's modern society, labeling Manson a satanic individual, etc.
I'd thought that the "getting dressed up" was to emphasize the other aspects of the song, being that he is now the "monster you fear", instead of "the boy who you loved". It could also just be for irony, in the sense of becoming dressed up for one's funeral.
I don't really see how that becoming a God thing fits in...I own the AntiChrist Superstar album, and I'd always interpreted it to be a lamentation concerning the life that Manson (or the character of the album, if you prefer), had lived (you need the actual entire album to understand that entirely and I'm not interested in understanding it). Manson's becoming a God could also fit the theme, I guess, but i don't see how you get it...help? |
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| Marilyn Manson – Rock Is Dead Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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I agree with King Nothing. In addition, the religion theme of amphetamines and religion being compared in the first verse shows how Manson feels religion is used in our society.
The "1000 mother's are praying for it" line fits Nothing's analysis, in that, well, mothers do tend to prefer their children listening to soulless music. It makes them easier to control. |
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| Marilyn Manson – Man That You Fear Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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The video, now that I've seen it, is extremely well done (I'd say it's even better than Coma White), with the theme of puritanical condemnation of himself on account of modern christians. The symbolism in the very end eludes me, however. |
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| Marilyn Manson – Dogma Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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It really is a sleeping classic, in a sense: no one speaks about Dogma, but it's a great song. |
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| Marilyn Manson – Disposable Teens Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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I agree. There are really very few true artists remaining in the music industry. The artistic ones who make it through mtv's shield are a rare breed. Manson made it.
Man That You Fear is probably his best video (along with Coma White and the Dope Show). The Long Hard Road Out of Hell is also very artistic, imo. |
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| Marilyn Manson – A Place In The Dirt Lyrics
| 22 years ago
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The dirt line is saying that there is no real afterlife in heaven, I think. Life ends with death.
The needle's could either refer to drug use or just a very small halo (i.e., Target Audience, "and my halo was a needle hole) signifying a small amount of morality, or a cruel angel. |
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