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The Black Eyed Peas – My Humps Lyrics 12 years ago
You're so right. The meaning may be satirical but are people really thinking about it? I'd also like to add, it's not like this garbage stays in the US either. It goes all over the world with its message, or rather, lack of one. I wonder if those who create and market these things for profit ever wonder about the consequences. Bottom line, our bad taste affects everyone. This isn't culture anymore. This kills culture wherever it goes. Around the time this kind of half hip-hop, half pop stuff became popular I must confess I decided it was all a giant money-making scheme with no thought behind it, and switched the dial over to old school rap and hard rock. And I was 17 when I made that decision. The sheer mindlessness of it just got to me. Here we are, trying to impose meaning on a song that deliberately has none.

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Deftones – Change (In the House of Flies) Lyrics 12 years ago
I feel this is about the power dynamics in a controlling relationship - one where the weaker partner opens up fully to the stronger partner, and the stronger partner uses this vulnerability to completely dominate and destroy the weaker partner.

In this case, I imagine a woman, who seduces a man, and then uses her power to control him - in essence, she "pulls off his wings." And because he loves her, or perhaps lacks will power, he not only allows this to happen but perhaps encourages it and comes to embrace it. ("You feel so alive.")

On the flip side, an emotionally (ab)used person may vacillate between feelings of acceptance and feelings of rage. You can drag someone down if you want, if your power over them is strong enough, but they may eventually rebel. Hence, "Gave you a gun, you blew me away."

This song gives me an overwhelming sense of the evil nature of some people. On a side note, that's why I think this song was a perfect choice for use in the sex scene in Queen of the Damned, where Akasha seduces and thereby acquires control over Lestat. I literally can't imagine another song more perfect in the atmosphere it creates or its lyrical content for use in that scene. As a result, it's very powerful to watch. I think if you watch that movie, or at least, that scene on Youtube knowing a little background information, the meaning of this song will become readily apparent.

Just my opinion.

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Tracy Chapman – 3,000 Miles Lyrics 12 years ago
I think it's about living in a crappy city, with all the trappings, high crime, white flight, a deflated housing market, and how the writer must be 3000 miles away from where she wants to be. So if the writer were from a nice place in California and moved to say, Detroit, that would about make sense then.

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System of a Down – Aerials Lyrics 12 years ago
Who the hell voted this down? It's a very good interpretation.

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System of a Down – Toxicity Lyrics 12 years ago
"New, how do you own the world? How do you own disorder?"

Emphasis on New World Order. Isn't the general idea of movements like Zeitgeist and others that countries will ultimately group together to form a system of economic, political, and social cooperation on a global scale, for the better of all people.

Other posters on this forum have repeatedly given examples pulled from the lyrics which indicate the chaos and destruction inherent in modern living. For example, eating seeds, indicating consumption without thought to sustainability.

Put the two ideas together and I feel the song is a challenge to the those who believe that people can and will improve with increased guidance and better laws.

Knowing the true nature of people, their desires, their thoughtlessness and crowd mentality, their systematic warfare and need to compete, even their numbers ("Loud neighbors" makes me think of people living right next to each other in millions of apartments - people who have no deeper ties in the community but that they happen to share close quarters. And 300 years ago, who would have thought that this would be the most common living arrangement? Or that people would have, as a result of industrialization, allowed themselves to be compacted like insects in a hive into places like our modern cities? "the toxicity of our city") how you can really "own" something so awful? And why would you want to? To fix our problems, to redirect human nature, would take something like an act of god, and it is beyond naive to believe one can somehow take control of chaos and improve upon it.

I see the very last line ("When I became the sun...) as a last jab at the people who believe they have they have thought up a "perfect" system.

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Tool – Cesaro Summability Lyrics 16 years ago
whoops, didn't mean to post that like 10 times

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Tool – Cesaro Summability Lyrics 16 years ago
Cesaro Summability describes whether the numbers in an infinite series all converge in a single value when the series is drawn to infinity, or whether they do not converge. This might be tough for someone without mathematical background to understand but I think I can explain it well if you'll bear with me. And then I'll tie it to the song because the baby sounds and the title all make good sense once you understand the mathematical parallel.

For example, take this series of numerical values : 1/2, 2/3, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8, etc. (That would be described mathematically as (n-1)/n for anyone who is curious where I got those numbers, and this series is one of the first ones they have you look at in any precalculus class because it's so demonstrative of the concept of summability.)

If you add together all those values, 1/2 + 2/3 + 3/4, continuing the series forever into infinity, that's called finding the "sum" of all those values. And if you think about it, you can see that as you approach infinity, the sum approaches but never quite touches the value of 1. Nevertheless, you would say that the summability for this series is 1, because after millions of values, the sum is so close to 1 that it might as well be 1, because by then the difference between 1 and the actual value attained is statistically insignificant. Therefore this series of numbers, while an infinite series, has a "finite" or "convergent" summability meaning that the values all eventually converge at a real number.

The other option is infinite/divergent summability. If the series was simply the value of n, so that the numbers to be added were 1, 2, 3, 4, etc, the values to be attained by finding the infinite sum would be infinite and therefore unquanitifiable.

So what does this have to do with the baby sounds?

The 'series' in this case is humankind, which reproduces itself into infinity, and is therefore conceptually similar to a string of values in a series. The birth of a baby, then, is the birth of a new value in the series. And the question we're supposed to ponder is, I suppose, whether the summability of the series in question, of humankind as a whole, converges in a real value, or diverges into infinite oblivion, and thus is life meaningful or meaningless. And if life is meaningful or meaningless, whatever you decide, then what is the meaning or the value in a new life being brought into the world.

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Tool – Cesaro Summability Lyrics 16 years ago
Cesaro Summability describes whether the numbers in an infinite series all converge in a single value when the series is drawn to infinity, or whether they do not converge. This might be tough for someone without mathematical background to understand but I think I can explain it well if you'll bear with me. And then I'll tie it to the song because the baby sounds and the title all make good sense once you understand the mathematical parallel.

For example, take this series of numerical values : 1/2, 2/3, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8, etc. (That would be described mathematically as (n-1)/n for anyone who is curious where I got those numbers, and this series is one of the first ones they have you look at in any precalculus class because it's so demonstrative of the concept of summability.)

If you add together all those values, 1/2 + 2/3 + 3/4, continuing the series forever into infinity, that's called finding the "sum" of all those values. And if you think about it, you can see that as you approach infinity, the sum approaches but never quite touches the value of 1. Nevertheless, you would say that the summability for this series is 1, because after millions of values, the sum is so close to 1 that it might as well be 1, because by then the difference between 1 and the actual value attained is statistically insignificant. Therefore this series of numbers, while an infinite series, has a "finite" or "convergent" summability meaning that the values all eventually converge at a real number.

The other option is infinite/divergent summability. If the series was simply the value of n, so that the numbers to be added were 1, 2, 3, 4, etc, the values to be attained by finding the infinite sum would be infinite and therefore unquanitifiable.

So what does this have to do with the baby sounds?

The 'series' in this case is humankind, which reproduces itself into infinity, and is therefore conceptually similar to a string of values in a series. The birth of a baby, then, is the birth of a new value in the series. And the question we're supposed to ponder is, I suppose, whether the summability of the series in question, of humankind as a whole, converges in a real value, or diverges into infinite oblivion, and thus is life meaningful or meaningless. And if life is meaningful or meaningless, whatever you decide, then what is the meaning or the value in a new life being brought into the world.

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Tool – Cesaro Summability Lyrics 16 years ago
Cesaro Summability describes whether the numbers in an infinite series all converge in a single value when the series is drawn to infinity, or whether they do not converge. This might be tough for someone without mathematical background to understand but I think I can explain it well if you'll bear with me. And then I'll tie it to the song because the baby sounds and the title all make good sense once you understand the mathematical parallel.

For example, take this series of numerical values : 1/2, 2/3, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8, etc. (That would be described mathematically as (n-1)/n for anyone who is curious where I got those numbers, and this series is one of the first ones they have you look at in any precalculus class because it's so demonstrative of the concept of summability.)

If you add together all those values, 1/2 + 2/3 + 3/4, continuing the series forever into infinity, that's called finding the "sum" of all those values. And if you think about it, you can see that as you approach infinity, the sum approaches but never quite touches the value of 1. Nevertheless, you would say that the summability for this series is 1, because after millions of values, the sum is so close to 1 that it might as well be 1, because by then the difference between 1 and the actual value attained is statistically insignificant. Therefore this series of numbers, while an infinite series, has a "finite" or "convergent" summability meaning that the values all eventually converge at a real number.

The other option is infinite/divergent summability. If the series was simply the value of n, so that the numbers to be added were 1, 2, 3, 4, etc, the values to be attained by finding the infinite sum would be infinite and therefore unquanitifiable.

So what does this have to do with the baby sounds?

The 'series' in this case is humankind, which reproduces itself into infinity, and is therefore conceptually similar to a string of values in a series. The birth of a baby, then, is the birth of a new value in the series. And the question we're supposed to ponder is, I suppose, whether the summability of the series in question, of humankind as a whole, converges in a real value, or diverges into infinite oblivion, and thus is life meaningful or meaningless. And if life is meaningful or meaningless, whatever you decide, then what is the meaning or the value in a new life being brought into the world.

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Tool – Cesaro Summability Lyrics 16 years ago
Cesaro Summability describes whether the numbers in an infinite series all converge in a single value when the series is drawn to infinity, or whether they do not converge. This might be tough for someone without mathematical background to understand but I think I can explain it well if you'll bear with me. And then I'll tie it to the song because the baby sounds and the title all make good sense once you understand the mathematical parallel.

For example, take this series of numerical values : 1/2, 2/3, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8, etc. (That would be described mathematically as (n-1)/n for anyone who is curious where I got those numbers, and this series is one of the first ones they have you look at in any precalculus class because it's so demonstrative of the concept of summability.)

If you add together all those values, 1/2 + 2/3 + 3/4, continuing the series forever into infinity, that's called finding the "sum" of all those values. And if you think about it, you can see that as you approach infinity, the sum approaches but never quite touches the value of 1. Nevertheless, you would say that the summability for this series is 1, because after millions of values, the sum is so close to 1 that it might as well be 1, because by then the difference between 1 and the actual value attained is statistically insignificant. Therefore this series of numbers, while an infinite series, has a "finite" or "convergent" summability meaning that the values all eventually converge at a real number.

The other option is infinite/divergent summability. If the series was simply the value of n, so that the numbers to be added were 1, 2, 3, 4, etc, the values to be attained by finding the infinite sum would be infinite and therefore unquanitifiable.

So what does this have to do with the baby sounds?

The 'series' in this case is humankind, which reproduces itself into infinity, and is therefore conceptually similar to a string of values in a series. The birth of a baby, then, is the birth of a new value in the series. And the question we're supposed to ponder is, I suppose, whether the summability of the series in question, of humankind as a whole, converges in a real value, or diverges into infinite oblivion, and thus is life meaningful or meaningless. And if life is meaningful or meaningless, whatever you decide, then what is the meaning or the value in a new life being brought into the world.

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Tool – Cesaro Summability Lyrics 16 years ago
Cesaro Summability describes whether the numbers in an infinite series all converge in a single value when the series is drawn to infinity, or whether they do not converge. This might be tough for someone without mathematical background to understand but I think I can explain it well if you'll bear with me. And then I'll tie it to the song because the baby sounds and the title all make good sense once you understand the mathematical parallel.

For example, take this series of numerical values : 1/2, 2/3, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8, etc. (That would be described mathematically as (n-1)/n for anyone who is curious where I got those numbers, and this series is one of the first ones they have you look at in any precalculus class because it's so demonstrative of the concept of summability.)

If you add together all those values, 1/2 + 2/3 + 3/4, continuing the series forever into infinity, that's called finding the "sum" of all those values. And if you think about it, you can see that as you approach infinity, the sum approaches but never quite touches the value of 1. Nevertheless, you would say that the summability for this series is 1, because after millions of values, the sum is so close to 1 that it might as well be 1, because by then the difference between 1 and the actual value attained is statistically insignificant. Therefore this series of numbers, while an infinite series, has a "finite" or "convergent" summability meaning that the values all eventually converge at a real number.

The other option is infinite/divergent summability. If the series was simply the value of n, so that the numbers to be added were 1, 2, 3, 4, etc, the values to be attained by finding the infinite sum would be infinite and therefore unquanitifiable.

So what does this have to do with the baby sounds?

The 'series' in this case is humankind, which reproduces itself into infinity, and is therefore conceptually similar to a string of values in a series. The birth of a baby, then, is the birth of a new value in the series. And the question we're supposed to ponder is, I suppose, whether the summability of the series in question, of humankind as a whole, converges in a real value, or diverges into infinite oblivion, and thus is life meaningful or meaningless. And if life is meaningful or meaningless, whatever you decide, then what is the meaning or the value in a new life being brought into the world.

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