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Within Temptation – Forgiven Lyrics 15 years ago
This song is very personal to me, because it reminds me of a difficult relationship between a parent and child. They both made terrible mistakes and hurt each other, but in the end, they forgive each other. I know that's not really what the song is about, but that' what it makes me think of whenever I hear it.

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Dashboard Confessional – Even Now Lyrics 15 years ago
I tend to think this is about someone recalling memories of someone before they died. It doesn't have to be interpreted that way, but it certainly fits. I think the woman was sick for a while and then died.

"Wrap you in a towel
Lay you on the bed
And try to love you"

certainly fits, because he's taking care of her. And he has to TRY to love her, because she's fragile and weak, perhaps.

"Even now I can feel your face
resting on my chest
wrestling for sleep
and failing at it"
also suggests she may have had medical problems that made it hard to sleep.

"Even now I can see you sleep
I can see you dream
I can see you fly"
also adds to this conclusion. Or maybe, because I have health problems (none fatal thankfully), I'm reading too much of myself into it.

Maybe she IS sick, but she didn't die. He's just taking care of her, and is worried about her, but can still remember all of the reasons he fell in love with her and can still find happiness in the midst of everything going on.

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Thursday – We Will Overcome Lyrics 16 years ago
Well, when I first heard the song I got the meaning of the "these Southern trees have the strangest fruit"; and the "we will overcome" and the "promised land" references definitely evoke the civil rights movements and Jim Crow and lynchings and all the other horors associated with it.

I don't think it is just about civil rights or black injustice though, the meaning is broader than that. Especially when you hear the next verse. I tend to think the whole "our fathers plant arms in foreign soil" line refers to the fact that in the 80s we funded and armed the Taliban to fight the Russians, but once the Russians were out, we basically just left the country in tatters and didn't do anything to help them, which led to a lot of bitterness and distrust towards Americans, which the Taliban and groups like Al Qaida were able to use to take power and oppress the citizenry. Then of course, after 9/11, we went to war in Afghanistan, and "our brothers died" and "no ones knows where it ends" because the war on terror is so large in scope and every time we invade a country and take out militants we end up taking out civilians too, and then their families are angry about it and end up joining groups like Al Qaida and it just snowballs out of control. And if our father's hadn't "planted arms in forgeign soil" by Arming the Taliban, (or even better, if we'd actually helped then rebuild their country a little instead of just ip and leaving when our interests were serve dby the Russians leaving) who knows how different History might have been? So it's kind of about the fact that the younger generation is now paying in blood for the mistakes of "our fathers".


I didn't think about it maybe being an allusion to being gay, but I like that interpretation and think it fits. Thinking out it deeper, the "our roads are paved with broken arrows" could likely be a reference to the fact that our country was built through genocide of native Americans.

The Uganda reference fits too, considering it often is suicide for people to just try to live their lives there; going out to find food or firewood can often get you killed, raped, or kidnapped by the militias to serve either as a soldier or a sex slave depending on your gender.

I think the song is meant to encompass all of these ideas, and more, because really it is about the struggles we have as a nation with our history, our present, and our future. Truly an inspired piece of music.

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Thursday – We Will Overcome Lyrics 16 years ago
Um, I have the cd booklet and it confirms the original post. I know that when you read them they don't look totally right because when Thursday sings them they don't pronounce the entire word or they say it fast or in whispers and/or screams but those really are the lyrics.

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Within Temptation – Forgiven Lyrics 16 years ago
"Time has passed you by" doesn't have to mean the person was old, necessarily, it just means they died. If you're dead, well, time has certainly passed you by, old or young.

Before I read all the comments, I was thinking that I really don't think this is about a lover. I was getting a strong vibe that it was being directed at a close friend. Now I see that it is about a father who lost his child and that fits perfectly, but it still resonates most with me on the level of having lost a friend. Maybe that's just because I have lost friends, some to death and some...just lost, but who feel almost as gone. Sometimes, strangely, they feel more gone. For me, it fits that situation perfectly. I love songs that make me bawl like crazy. Is that normal?



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Lacuna Coil – The Ghost Woman And The Hunter Lyrics 17 years ago
How about this? The ghost woman is actually a ghost and the hunter is her lover. The first verse is sung by the ghost woman, the second by the hunter. And she wouldn't feel the sun's rays on her because she is no longer a part of the physical world.

But see I don't think a ghost would have dreams. Not actual ones. So if the second verse was sung by the hunter, he would be dreaming about her and the lime "Do you really want to be me?" could be asking her "do you really wish you were still alive like me, when I feel so much pain because of it?"

And in the choruses, both think the other is moving on but neither really is.

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