Goodnight Kiss

I think it\'s more about a botched birth (\"Those bastard Doctors are gonna pay) that caused the death of her baby 5 years ago, and she\'s remeniscing (\"it\'s been 5 years to the day\")

i think people keep ignoring an important line

My tainted blood's still the same

if this was about postpartum depression, in what way is her blood tainted?

i think we can all agree that in some way, the woman has lost her child whether it was taken away , died, or she killed it.

To me, it seems like when the woman was pregnant she got some sort of sickness caused by the doctors (Those bastard doctors are gonna pay)and the child was also infected and taken away for more intensive care.

but idk. maybe im looking into the tainted blood thing way too much

As a woman who had a full term stillbirth, I must say I feel strongly that this song is about a baby dying either directly before or after birth. The part about "tainted blood still the same" makes me wonder if that isn't a referral to MTHFR disorder, which is a blood clotting disorder that commonly leads to stillbirth. This is often undetected (bastard doctors?) until an actual perinatal death, and then uncovered during the autopsy/blood/genetic testing afterwards. Many women who have this get treatment (like blood thinners) so they can have successful pregnancies later. It doesn't even have to be stillbirth, it could be complications from something like MTHFR that lead to death. Could also be a placental abruption or some other complication that resulted in a baby dying. Whatever the case, I'm positive this is it.

Even if the grief process isn't considered a true mental illness (although many women who lose a baby suffer from depression afterwards, or postpartum specific depression, anxiety, which are all genuine diagnosed mental illnesses) from someone who is living it (5 months last week), it makes me feel crazier than anything else in my life ever has.

I have to agree with Buck on this one... it is a mother who lost a child at birth. she asks "are you lonly without mommy's love" and states that "I'm so lonly without baby's love". The mother dies not die, the child does and needless to say, this upsets her.

Post-partun depression. There's no real long drawn out explanation. Many women develop a serious depression after they have children. It goes from the dependency of the girl to her mother and then the dependency fro the girl to her first daughter.

I think it's about a daughter who has lost her mother- lonely with out mommys love, a poor girl, 5 years later, the doctors couldnt save the mother, she doesnt have the love that she received as a baby.

Some misc. information about this song... The mother and child that are featured in it are actually Portnoy's wife and their daughter. :)

Since this is part of The Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, the song is certainly about some mental illness. The speaker is obviously battling with intense depression. The question is what spurred the depression.

I used to lean toward postpartum depression/psychosis, which may still be the case. Everything that leads us to believe that her child is dead may be irrational thoughts, associating being with and feeling the love of her child only with the pregnancy. Now that the child is out, she feels no connection to her. Maybe she is also irrationally blaming the doctors for birthing the child. The only thing that troubles me is the part that says it's been 5 years. PPP when left untreated will only last a few months. Perhaps in her psychosis, closer in time to the birth, she killed her child and is now dealing with it.

I don't buy the idea of it being a botched birth. 6DOIT is about severe mental illness, and the depression that would be associated with a stillbirth would be filed away under normal grief. It certainly would not warrant being named one of the degrees.

I have a hard time believing this involves either death of them, since it asks the question "are you lonely without mommy's love" as if she was still alive, I think she may have shook the baby because of the depression, and then the baby was taken away. She could have asked the doctors to plea with her that it was due to the condition known as post partum depression, but they wouldn't, saying it wasn't real like so many others have, hence she wants the doctors to pay for not letting her ever see her child again, but still holds guilt since she was part of the incident "tainted blood's still the same".

In the end the 2nd chrous, it's reverse from the mother's point of view, in the 1st, a person was speaking to the baby as I assume she was crying or something saying all those things, and in the last the mother is thinking all those same things about herself without her baby.

out of every song ive heard...i can PROMISE you that ive probobly played a single part of this song more than most other songs combined. When i heard the solo...my mouth dropped and i had to replay it over and over. THIS is what true guitar is about.