Making Friends and Acquaintances

me thinks...he's seen what too many promises can do to a man then he gets drunk uhhh..then he tells someone something then gets angry? explaining some people can keep secrets (i dont know where im going with this) he eventually looses some friends ehhh stuff stuff and hes left with his self i dont know.

i like this song, its so melodic, and the bass line is very good

Very catchy little riff. Cursive is amazing and Tim Kasher is by far one of the best song writers out there. Another brilliant display of music from the guys @ Saddle Creek.

fuck friends... thats what it all means.

takebackthestars, are you kidding? this song is written from kasher's viewpoint about the different female "friends and aquaitaneces" that he made that in turn ruined his current relationship. I love the part "between the bedsprings and the mattress..."

[ But still I can hear those dirty birds chirp away It's a song I know by heart Sometimes I resent making friends and acquaintances It's a thin veil between us -- ]

it.s all a sham and everyone has a separate, secret life. you can never really know anyone.

such a pretty song to describe such an ugly thing.

in the context of the album i think the song is about sweetie being forced to confide everything to pretty baby due to their relationship. i think he dislikes when the two of them make friends and acquaintances because she knows all of his secrets and might end up sharing them with others wheras he's so closed off no one would otherwise know. i base a lot of this on the line in "the game of who needs who the worst" where sweetie says "a secret, but you couldn't keep it so secret"

remember that line [all social graces have been displaced]? exactly :D domestica is about tim and his now ex-wife's divorce you'll see it.

also i could never figure out "i hear those birdies chirping" but then one day it occured to me that it's probably a reference to the figure of speech "a little birdie told me..."

I do love this song.

Exactly what I was going to say, Jeremy. I think it's all a play on "a little birdie told me." He mentions birds several times in the song. ("I've seen those birdies chirping"; "Sometimes I get so naked I sing like a canary"; "But still I can hear those dirty birds chirp away"; "The ones you scattered with your wings.")

I'm thinking it has something to do with gossip, broken promises, definitely secrets. He talks about diaries, where we typically write our deepest secrets...all the things we don't want other people to know but can't keep inside (We all hide a diary beneath some mattress).

The first four lines seem to be about people that can't keep promises (Loose-lipped secrets; Another promise perched on their fragile branches) , the second about the speaker as a secret keeper (And I scream out what I shouldn't scream), the next five about people that keep their promises (They don't let the whispers slip Between the cracks of the bathroom stalls Or be written on the bathroom walls....), the fourth set about listening to other people keep gossipping and being very familiar with it (But still I can hear those dirty birds chirp away It's a song I know by heart), then the speaker is saying where he keeps the secrets he doesn't want anyone to know, gossip about, whatever.

Anyway, that's pretty much what I got from it. There are some holes, some lines I haven't been able to fit in with this, some not-so-sound logic, but it fits for me.