We were sons of insurrection
Doomed to face the dark alone
Til vicarious perfection
Dearly won was made our own
So where's your landslide
Where's your victory
Tell me now, where's your sting
Unassailable you waited
The great enemy of man
Til your awful jaws were sated
And we were ransomed from your hand
So where's your landslide
Where's your victory
Tell me now, where's your sting
Where's your landslide
Where's your victory
Tell me now, where's your sting
Now that you have been disarmed
We will cross over unharmed
Doomed to face the dark alone
Til vicarious perfection
Dearly won was made our own
Where's your victory
Tell me now, where's your sting
The great enemy of man
Til your awful jaws were sated
And we were ransomed from your hand
Where's your victory
Tell me now, where's your sting
Where's your victory
Tell me now, where's your sting
We will cross over unharmed
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"Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?" -1 Corinthians 15:55
Onliberty and mtamerson already have this down pretty well, but I wanted to draw attention to some of the lyrics. "Doomed to face the dark alone, 'til vicarious perfection dearly won was made our own" - That has to be the most poetic and beautiful reference to the sacrifice of Christ I have ever read or heard. Vicarious perfection is obviously referring to the perfection of Christ as God made human; that perfection was "dearly won and made our own" through his sacrifice for humanity, which washes away sin in Christian theology. Through the sacrifice of his perfection, we are made more perfect. Incredibly poignant and well-written.
However, I must confess I don't totally understand the "sons of insurrection" line. Maybe referring back to original sin, inherent wickedness and turning away from God? Insurrection is a term for violent rebellion and strife... It doesn't quite seem to fit with that interpretation but it's teh best I can think of. Anyone else have an idea?
I think the use of "insurrection" draws from one of the points of Calvinism-- total depravity. Because of the Fall, man is completely incapable of choosing to love God by his own nature. The Fall totally affected every part of man's being-- his motives, feelings, desires etc. and as a result, man chooses to serve himself. And being a son doesn't have to be a literal son-- just one who has been influenced by something particular. In that regard, I think mankind could be considered "sons of insurrection," because although we're created imagio dei and as part of God's orderly creation,...
I think the use of "insurrection" draws from one of the points of Calvinism-- total depravity. Because of the Fall, man is completely incapable of choosing to love God by his own nature. The Fall totally affected every part of man's being-- his motives, feelings, desires etc. and as a result, man chooses to serve himself. And being a son doesn't have to be a literal son-- just one who has been influenced by something particular. In that regard, I think mankind could be considered "sons of insurrection," because although we're created imagio dei and as part of God's orderly creation, the Fall fragmented his orderly creation. It's now part of our nature to serve ourselves and take our God-given gifts in use them in a non God-directed manner... aka sin... our rebellion against God's law.
Pretty good for the most part, although I think instead of "On a sailboat you waited" it is "Unassailable, you waited"
That makes more sense. I transcribed these pretty quickly on only one listen, so it's not unlikely I made some mistakes. I've fixed it now.
That makes more sense. I transcribed these pretty quickly on only one listen, so it's not unlikely I made some mistakes. I've fixed it now.
Yep. About Christ's victory over death.
Not specifically Christ's. They are Paul's words and for believers facing death.
Not specifically Christ's. They are Paul's words and for believers facing death.
Yes they are Paul's words, but not for believers facing death. Believers don't face death. Death is the seperation from God as punishment for sin, and as believers, CHRIST'S victory over death is applied to our account so we will not die. Yes our physical bodies will fall away, but that is not unto death.
Yes they are Paul's words, but not for believers facing death. Believers don't face death. Death is the seperation from God as punishment for sin, and as believers, CHRIST'S victory over death is applied to our account so we will not die. Yes our physical bodies will fall away, but that is not unto death.
Only non-believers face true death.
Only non-believers face true death.
Only Christ defeated death. To say that the victory is not specifically Christ's borders on blasphemy. We share in the spoils from that victory, but the victory itself was His and His alone.
Only Christ defeated death. To say that the victory is not specifically Christ's borders on blasphemy. We share in the spoils from that victory, but the victory itself was His and His alone.
They may wish to change wedding vows for they say "Until death do we part" (if I can recall correctly). There is physical death and spiritual death. Christians do face the former.
They may wish to change wedding vows for they say "Until death do we part" (if I can recall correctly). There is physical death and spiritual death. Christians do face the former.
I think this has a lot to do with the deaths and hardships all the members have had in their families recently.
Sin and death has been disarmed by the blood sacrifice of Jesus. Death holds no weight on Him or on those who duly follow him.
Very poetic and beautiful lyrics. Saw them last night in Detroit - awesome, awesome show.
this song is beautiful indeed...the harmonization at the end with the guitars and layered vocals is awesome. It just makes me picture approaching the gates of heaven and Christ after death. I'm so used to all the Thrice song threads on this site being a debate over whether the song is of secular or spiritual origins, but I guess it is stated so poignantly and blatantly that is not so on this song. Maybe the song just hasn't been out long enough. Clearly about how through Christ even death holds no fear for us. This is one of their best songs yet. This album on the whole to me sounds like a blend of Vheissu and Beggars...my favorite Thrice song since Firebreather.
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