Victim

this HAS GOT TO BE about The Rev. I'm betting my liver on it.

dont know if anyone else has noticed this, but the first minute or so of this song sounds a lot like the great gig in the sky by pink floyd - a song thats supposedly a metaphor for death. and then the lyrics pick up from just after the death of the person in the song, presumably the rev, so this may well have been deliberate. fucking beautiful song.

Clues are all over the place that the rev killed himself, despite the press release that it was "accidental". Obviously it is never good for a band to have that "Suicide band" label. A former member Justin Sane already tried killing himself. They did not openly admit it, but left enough clues for their fans to figure out. The Rev also had a heart condition he knew about which almost certainly meant he would die in a few years anyways. He certainly could have "accidentally" overdosed on a combination of Oxycodone, Oxymorphone, Valium, Nordiazepam and adding alcohol to the mix. But authorities say many people would die from that mix anyways. It also just happens to be the ingredients of a Brompton Cocktail(Another song Rev wrote about medically addicted suicide due to terminal illness and having the right to die the way he pleases)

While so Far away gets praise for being their Rev dedication, Victim is also a dedication with a more sorrowful angry edge. The friends of the Rev are the victims of his crime. Suicide being the crime.

Very strong emotion in this song. Moreso than in so far away. The Lyrics "We all need a reason....a reason just to stay...but Some just can't be bothered....to stick around another day" comes across as accusatory. Rightfully so given how much they all loved him. "Ask questions to myself about the things I'll never know. What's left to find? cause I need a little more" strikes hard as "Why did you kill yourself man?? How could you do this to us"

The song Fiction, which was originally titled "Death" before the band changed the name to Rev's nickname fiction was handed in by the Rev to the rest of the band 3 days before he passed away as he said "here it is, the last song for the album". The song comes off as if it is a suicide note, although none recognized it at the time until after he died. Gates breaks out sobbing during many of the live performances of that song when he is singing(Has a nice voice too). It is heartbreaking. Sure he could be sobbing because it is the last song Rev wrote. But I feel it is deeper.

I hate even writing this because in the song Victim itself it asks us to save our speculation for another time. But it has been 7+ years so I think some things should come to light.

To this day, they have NEVER played Victim live . And I suspect they never will. It is the most passionate song they have ever written and it stinks that they will not play it, but if they were angry and hurt when they wrote it, it may feel wrong for them to play it. They always play so Far away and have played fiction many times. And I have yet to see a setlist with Brompton cocktail on it since he died

this song is amazing! i almost cried the first time i heard it. its so sad as well, makes you think of and miss anybody you've ever love. my heart goes out to a7x. one of the best bands to ever exist

House full of roses, a letter on the stairs A tape full of messages for anyone who cares Collage of broken words and stories full of tears Remembering your life 'cause we wish that you were here

Nothing is harder than to wake up all alone Realize it's not okay, it's the end of all you know Time keeps passing by, but it seems I'm frozen still Scars are left behind, but some too deep to feel

And some say this can't be real And I've lost my power to feel tonight We're all just victims of a crime When all's gone and can't be regained We can't seem to shelter the pain inside We're all just victims of a crime

Some days you'll find me in the place I like to go Ask questions to myself 'bout the things I'll never know What's left to find 'cause I need a little more I need a little time, can we even up the score?

And some say this can't be real And I've lost my power to feel tonight We're all just victims of a crime When all's gone and can't be regained We can't seem to shelter the pain inside We're all just victims of a crime

And nothing lasts forever For all good days it's true I'd rather trade it all While somehow saving you And must have been the season That threw us out of line Once I stood so tall Now I'm searching for a sign

So don't need your salvation With promises unkind And all those the speculations Save it for another time 'Cause we don't need a reason A reason just to stay Some just can't be bothered To stick around another day

And some say this can't be real And I've lost my power to feel tonight We're all been victims of a crime When all's gone and can't be regained We can't seem to shelter the pain inside We're all been victims of a crime

Victims of a crime Living with this crime

I'm missing you (x4)

@murilodeth: I'll throw in a kidney with that bet. Lol. But we get to keep our organs, because this song is about The Rev (r.i.p.)

ohhh man, this song hit me like a train.

Yeah this song rules, along with every song on the album. I'm on my third listen for each of them now, only the third because I got the album late...

PLEASE CORRECT THE ABOVE LYRICS AS THEY ARE WRONG. :)

should be...

And nothing lasts forever For all good THINGS it's true I'd rather TRADE it all SOMEHOW saving you IT must have been the season THAT threw us out of LINE Once I stood so tall Now I'm searching for a sign

So don't need your salvation With promises UNKIND And all THE speculation Save it for another time

'Cause we ALL need a reason A REASON JUST to stay WELL some just can't be bothered To stick around another day

Some days you'll find me in the place I like to go Ask questions to myself 'bout the things I'll never know What's left to find 'cause I need a little more I need a little time can we even up the score?

And some say this can't be real And I've lost my power to feel, tonight We're all just victims of a crime

In my opinion its about how we die, and theres nothing we came do about it, it seems like hes saying the rev died, and were all victims of a crime and we can't do anything about it. Kinda like everyone says you control your owen fate but we all end up in the same place in the end right?