"Rubicon" as written by Joseph Carnall, Louis Ian Carnall, Joseph Thomas Green and Thomas Lee Rowley....
Praying for myself.
These thoughts I try to hide.
I have faith in me and hope this will survive.
But it's tearing me apart.
I can't hear the words by which I guide.
So I must ask again who will carry me.

I will not deny that nothing can defend
from the helplessness that's cutting deep inside,
and I cannot prevent the thought that nothings real.
Seems I've waited years for this day to end.

The strength I need to feel, the pride inside of me,
Are not there behind the face staring back at me.
The anger and the pain of knowing where I am.
I have come so far and I cannot return.

Nothing I can do that I have not done.
No words I can say. No truth left that I can see.
So must I let this end so everything falls apart.
Before I live the life as I have always done.

Tell me what to do so I do nothing wrong.
Something I can hope for. Something real that I can see.
So nothing falls apart. So that it does not end.
I cannot return. I can't start again.

Lyrics submitted by rubiconsolitude

"Rubicon" as written by Joseph Thomas Green Joseph Carnall

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    General CommentWhen interpreting "Rubicon," it is helpful to remember that it was on the album "Empires," which is a rather cohesive tale of an empire's course from rise to fall (or "Firstlight" to "Arclight"). "Rubicon," which is toward the beginning of the album, comes after "Kingdom," suggesting that the kingdom has been won and now an entire conglomeration of kingdoms is to be unified. This song derives its name from the River Rubicon in Italy--during the time of the Roman Republic, upon penalty of execution, no legions were permitted to cross this river in order to protect the safety of Rome, which was to the south (in a kind of unmilitarized zone). "Rubicon" can be used symbolically to represent any point of no return. The lyrics of this song are basically the inner thoughts of Julius Caesar when he made the decision to cross his Rubicon and march on Rome, but they represent the trepidation of anyone who marches forward in an "all or nothing" endeavor.
    Czar5000on April 07, 2003   Link
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    General CommentInteresting Czar.

    Though to me it just sums up the way I've felt for years, especially 'tell me what to do, so I do nothing wrong' this song is just superb, it made me cry!!(a good thing, btw)
    Koijuon May 10, 2005   Link
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    General CommentHelplessness and utter darkness. That was my feelings when I heard this song the first time. I was battling serious depression at the time, and music was a great help.

    While I do think Czar5000 do have a very valid point, this song will always mean darkness, uncerntanity and doubt of my self. It is not a bad thing though, as it do give me great strength whenever I listen to it. It helps me see beoynd despair.

    "Tell me what to do so I do nothing wrong
    Something I can hope for, something real that I can see
    So nothing falls apart, so this does not end.
    I cannot return, I can't start again"

    That part touched me deep, and I will never forget that part.

    And you are right Zombie Pin-Up, it is "guide" not "die" on line four.
    Pholostanon December 15, 2005   Link
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    General CommentThe words are:
    Praying for myself, These thoughts I've tried to hide.
    I have faith in me....

    The ____(?) part is "so this does not end"
    VictoryToRonanon April 16, 2002   Link
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    General Commentoh, and the Nothing's true tonight is actually "Nothing to deny"
    VictoryToRonanon April 16, 2002   Link
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    General CommentTo me, this song is about someone who has always been religious and believed in a god, having doubts about their faith. They are hoping and praying that life does not end at death- that there is more. I could be totally off- please write your own opinions of the song
    rynlee83on April 19, 2002   Link
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    General CommentWhat a beautiful song. I am yet again amazed by VNV Nation's moving words. It reminds me of how my ex-gf treated me. I got dumped, and I thought long and hard about what I did wrong, but I searched nonetheless. This song depicts the pain so well! I love VNV Nation!
    RayTraceron April 25, 2002   Link
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    General CommentI love VNV nations songs...there the greatest..they give me such inspiration to write a good poem...I hope someday i would be able too write like them
    Nelo_Angeloon March 07, 2003   Link
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    General CommentIsn't it "I can't hear the words by which I guide?"
    Zombie Pin-Upon December 14, 2005   Link
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    General Commenti like Czar5000's explanation - i think 'technically' it might stem from that. for me personally it helps me stay sane, literally. there was a period in my life about 4 years ago when some really strange things happened (nothing abusive or harmful, it was actually very spiritual and life changing) to me but at the time i was in the typical state of human mind so the things i saw, felt, witnessed seriously did traumatize me to the point i was almost completely insane. i didn't know if i could ever go back - to get the chaos out of my mind and having each thing that happened play over and over in my head. i can't really get into it, but someone pretty much saw into my soul and i felt violated in a sense, and ended up analyzing every element of myself, my past, my life, my future...I was literally a mess. anyway, with the help of some things i finally did return to 'sanity' or 'normalcy'. at that point instead of feeling chaotic, i was calm and my entire view on life was changed forever. well, here i am some years later in a simlar situation and this song has helped me very much to stay here - without going back to the state of mind i was in the last time. as much good as it did in the long run, that state of mind was pure hell, chaos, confusion, and fear. i don't ever want to be that way again. if it weren't for this song, i might be back there now. i canNOT return....
    _faye_on December 16, 2005   Link

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