To What End

There is alot being thrown around in here that isn't reflective of the song as a whole.The writer is not saying he ias a scientific materialist.Rather he is asking if this is the correct philosophical assumption why proceed on.Since common public(Even christians to my suprise) live as if this assumption were true he has wrote this peice to provoke thought of our existensial predicament in a materialistic universe.If death is the ultimate destiny of human beings and the universe as a whole then it doesn't matter if we ever existed or not. If our thoughts are just chemical reactions pre-determined by the external stimuli our brain recieves.Why get on here and debate passionately about anything?Noon'es throught would have any value to them.moreover, if this is true we don't even have the free-will to pick what we believe in which is self defeating if you ask me.because according to this doctrine "we believe in determinism because we were determined"lol.Some philosophers try to manuver their way around this by saying are mental states supervene are brains reactions, but causation is still a way one street.the brain causes are beleifs. But to sidestep this issue.let me continue in the previous direction of my post by adding that the search for truth and living in accord with that truth is pointless in ths worldview.Does it matter what one believes considering our destiny is unrelated to how we live or think? In this view Hitler didn't do anything 'Objectively" wrong. what he did is just unsociable relative to certain societies.when one gets blown up by bombs their atoms just rearrange themselves into something else. how can there be any intrinsic worth to atoms?have youi measured it in a testube? Also, let me add Certain atheist are constantly ranting Christians shouldn't waste their only lives believing in a God or else they would have wasted it. But in materialistic worldview there is no objective purpose to being here. so how could we waste a life.It's like being on a sinking ship with no hope of rescue:there really is no difference between the person who spends the 'moments' toturing people and the person who spends his time loving others. because all of the people and their thoughts crumble to death.Can we as humans live consistent witrhin this worldview? most of us try not to think to deeply about the big questions like this and instead fill our minds with distractions and trivialisms to avoid the the thoughtlesly accepted view of materialism.but when pushed to the logical conclusions of this view we wil find most conclude it is unlivable.It's time to quit hiding behind the themes and virtues passed through western tradition by Christianity and face up to your worldview.

This is an awsome song, and I relate to it to because often I realize that really everything we do is due to chemical reactions in your body, so this song makes a lot of sense to me.

But after the second time they sing "no fire in our eyes, no steel in our hearts" etc. .. then he sings something like "and you tell me that the soul is just the one you love, no evil to rise up above" What's he really say there? I've always wondered, thanks.

I think your kind of missing the point comixevil, I don't think he's saying that we are nothing more then chemical reactions but that theres a greater meaning to our lives and a greater power, like God. He's saying that without a deeper meaning in our lives, whats the point? Or something like that.

Nooo.. I get the meaning of the song.. I love the message, I mean what are the actual lyrics? Like what does he literally sing? Thanks.

either way its a good song

ok comixevil, I totally think you have no clue what this song means, The Dood is right, hes singing about something higher then the small things we do, day in and day out. And yeah, either way its a great song. But I dun think he means to say that we are just chemical reactions.

I know that we are much more than just matter and chemicals, I was merely pointing out that I think about the same things in the same way. I was just asking about a lyric is all, damn.

he says the same thing as in the beginning comix, he just adds a little "and you tell me" at the beginning for effect. 'And you tell me i've no soul to touch no heart to love....'

thrice = kickers of the arse...

this is the best song that i like to see them do live. this is why i go and see them just for this cool song. thrice freaken rocks and i cant wait till they play with poison the well!!!!