Even Deeper

This is a sad song that communicates many things to me. But mostly, I feel as though he's saying the only time he feels good is when he's dreaming; fantasizing about his life being different, the way he wants it to be. And even then, he still wants to destroy it because he can't handle positive things in his life - he doesn't know how.

I think this song is about him wanting to escape from his side that makes him hate himself and keep himself from love. To someplace where his fear of falling in love wouldn't make him just want to ruin it. He is always afraid he will ruin it if he feels like he truly has found love.

Humm...I dunno about that...But, sure...?

I think it's just about him and his emotions...

"I woke up today to find myself in the other place"

(Meaning the place where he has been his whole life, alone, the...bad place?)

"with a trail of my footprints from where I ran away "

(The place he was "From where I ran away" is the good place, where the sun shines, if you will. He ran away, in fear of facing "good".)

"it seems everything I've heard just might be true and you know me (well you think you do)"

(Everyone telling me I'd run, may be true(Because I did, and do). You said I would, "and you know me". "(well you think you do)" You think you know me so well, and you don't even know who I am, or what I'm about.)

"sometimes, I have everything- yet I wish I felt something"

(Pretty much what it says. Sometimes, I have everything (material), yet I well nothing, inside (emotional).)

"do you know how far this has gone? just how damaged have I become?"

(Do you know how much pain I have experienced, gone through. Just how much do I have to go through, to let go, enjoy again.)

"when I think I can overcome it runs even deeper "

(When I think I can overcome, the pain. As soon as I start, it runs even deeper, the pain becomes more.)

"and in a dream I'm a different me with a perfect you we fit perfectly and for once in my life I feel complete- and I still want to ruin it"

(These lyrics are basicly the whole song (the meaning)And in a perfect dream, we fit perfectly. With a different me, and a perfect you. We are both complete, and fit together so well. Yet, I still want to ruin it, ruin the pleasure, ruin the joy, because I am afraid to see, and experence what is truely good.)

"afraid to look as clear as day this plan has long been underway"

(As above, afraid to "see the light", this pain has long been underway, the pain has been coming, for quite awhile.)

Sigh, there's the bell, got to go to my next class (Yay!)

Beside giving away the WHOLE song is no fun, think a bit...later.

I think Trent, has a place to get away from things, bad things in his life, troubles and hassles, this being 'the other place' and he ran away from his life. however this place has become 'contaminated' with this thing that runs 'even deeper' and now he dreams of a new 'different' place to get to and get away from things, the end describes his journey there.

To me this song is about depression. It's the feeling of sliding back 2 feet for every foot you climb out of a pit. There are 2 lines that really hit home for me:

"sometimes, I have everything yet I wish I felt something"

"In a dream I'm a different me with a perfect you, we fit perfectly. For once in my life I feel complete- and I still want to ruin it."

This, to me, is depression. No matter what you have, what you accomplish, who you are, it's never enough. There is a need that is unfulfilled, a need that will always run even deeper. Living with something like that makes you self-destructive. You work so hard to try to feel good that in the process you destroy the things that matter in your life, the things that should make you happy, slipping another 2 feet down the hole.

I agree with you gobbly but more in the sense of what entity994 is talking about. This song is talking about depression because that's what I could relate to at the time.

I woke up today to find myself in the other place with a trail of my footprints from where I ran away

-When depression hits it's sudden but only because the signs are so subtle you don't realize it until it's too late. You've been running from it but one day you realize you can't escape.

it seems everything I've heard just might be true and you know me (well you think you do)

-Others notice certain changes and ask if you are allright and you just say yes because you want to be allright. They seem to know something is up but they will never know how far it goes.

sometimes, I have everything- yet I wish I felt something

-No matter how well your life is going you can be depressed and all you want is to feel good, hell anything but depressed even.

do you know how far this has gone? just how damaged have I become?

-Even if you talk to people about it you can never quite say the right words to depict how bad you truly feel.

when I think I can overcome it runs even deeper

-You start to try to find cures for it. You think you're making headway because you certainly can't get any worse but then you realize you can and you have. You just keep sinking because there is no bottom.

and in a dream I'm a different me with a perfect you we fit perfectly and for once in my life I feel complete- and I still want to ruin it

-You dream of being happy but you know deep down even if you could get these things you think would make you happy the depression would take over and make you sabotage everything because it always wins.

afraid to look as clear as day this plan has long been underway

-Above I stated that one day you realize you're depressed. When you do and come to grips with it you can look back and see all the signs you missed that if you had just seen you could have prevented it from becoming so deep.

I hear them call I cannot stay the voice inviting me away

-The dreams of being happy always end and you are always brought back to the depression.

do you know how far this has gone? just how damaged have I become? when I think I can overcome it runs even deeper

-What I said earlier.

everything that matters is gone all the hands of hope have withdrawn could you try to help me hang on? it runs...

-Eventually you get to the point where it is better to die then to continue living. You have nothing, not even yourself. You desperately look for someone else to save you because even though you don't want to live it keeps getting worse. It never ends.

Sorry, I know it's long. But that's what that song meant to me when I first heard it. I connected with it and took it that way because I needed to.

Shut up about Clara already! I am sick of seeing that interpretation on every song from The Fragile! Gah!

LOL i must be twisted, for sure i am. I know 100% that everyone will think i over analysed the song, however i think most music is ambiguous, left up to our interpretation, and those with more bizarre ideas of what the songs mean just indicates their fantasies go just as deep... and maybe for some helps reveal their sick side.

When i heard this song straight away i thought it was referring to a psychopath (dont confuse with a serial killer)... its like this guy in the song wakes up and he hears voices. Strange like its almost like he knows theres a darker side to him and it over powers him.

I woke up today to find myself in the other place with a trail of my footprints from where I ran away

(he woke up in the darker side and has to trail hes way back to hes normal life... if you want to be a little more twisted about this i pictured him murdering someone in fit of sadistic rage and when he snapped out of it he realised what he did)

it seems everything I've heard just might be true and you know me (well you think you do)

( i think hes referring to hes mind, thoughts i should say).

sometimes, I have everything- yet I wish I felt something

(he has all the good things in life, think john wayne gacy and BTK, active community members but they were missing something, they felt nothing, emptiness... i would imagine you need to be empty to do these sick things).

and in a dream I'm a different me with a perfect you we fit perfectly and for once in my life I feel complete- and I still want to ruin it

( it gets more twisted here, hes speaking about hes double life, hes other personality, we cant reify personality so think of it purely as thought processes, but basically when he fantasises hes thinking of him just as an evil person (no good side) to accomodate for hes equally sick mind, and thus they fit perfectly so hes doesnt have this feeling of emptiness.

afraid to look as clear as day this plan has long been underway hear them call I cannot stay the voice inviting me away

(basically voices are calling him away, its not literal voices unless he experiences psychosis but basically hes evil thoughts take over).

do you know how far this has gone? just how damaged have I become? when I think I can overcome it runs even deeper everything that matters is gone all the hands of hope have withdrawn could you try to help me hang on? it runs...

(great way to explain that he knows the sickness is there, it runs deep, the roots so grown in that he cant fight it, he cant hope he just goes along with it......

And there you have it my twisted dissection of the song lol

THEORY 1: MAYBE its about his life as a "rockstar". How he views it, how it happened, why he did it. And about how people think he has "everything"... but not the one thing he truely wants.

I woke up today to find myself in the other place with a trail of my footprints from where I ran away -{he suddenly woke up and realized what his life. And all the things he ran away from through it)

"it seems everything I've heard just might be true and you know me well you think you do"

• (i think hes referring to the fans that go on about how they know exactly how he feels ect. And they know everything about him cause they've read books and magizines)

sometimes, I have everything- yet I wish I felt something -(he has money and stardom and all most people could want... yet its not what brings him happiness and satisfaction)

and in a dream I'm a different me with a perfect you -(dreaming of a different life) we fit perfectly and for once in my life I feel complete- and I still want to ruin it -(he knows what he wants but he cant bring himself to do it) afraid to look as clear as day this plan has long been underway

I think that the fragile whole CD has interlocking meaning I mean my favorite songs on the CD are the Fragile, Even Deeper, and Some what damaged. I belive thaey all have inter locking means. In this song the girl in the fragil has brokin loose and lose it and because he no longer has her to keep him sain. He falls back into his old world.