So this has been.my favorite song of OTEP's since it came out in 2004, and I always thought it was a song about a child's narrative of suffering in an abusive Christian home. But now that I am revisiting the lyrics, I am seeing something totally new.
This song could be gospel of John but from the perspective of Jesus.
Jesus was NOT having a good time up to and during the crucifixion. Everyone in the known world at the time looked to him with fear, admiration or disgust and he was constantly being asked questions. He spoke in "verses, prophesies and curses". He had made an enemy of the state, and believed the world was increasingly wicked and fallen from grace, or that he was in the "mouth of madness".
The spine of atlas is the structure that allows the titan to hold the world up. Jesus challenged the state and in doing so became a celebrated resistance figure. It also made him public enemy #1.
All of this happened simply because he was doing his thing, not because of any agenda he had or strategy.
And then he gets scourged (storm of thorns)
There are some plot holes here but I think it's an interesting interpretation.
I've seen your picture
Your name in lights above it
This is your big debut
It's like a dream come true
So won't you smile for the camera
I know they're gonna love it, Peg
I like your pin shot
I keep it with your letter
Done up in blueprint blue
It sure looks good on you
And when you smile for the camera
I know I'll love you better
Peg
It will come back to you
Peg
It will come back to you
Then the shutter falls
You see it all in 3D
It's your favorite foreign movie
I like your pin shot
I keep it with your letter
Done up in blueprint blue
It sure looks good on you
And when you smile for the camera
I know I'll love you better
Peg
It will come back to you
Peg
It will come back to you
Then the shutter falls
You see it all in 3D
It's your favorite foreign movie
Peg
It will come back to you
Peg
It will come back to you
Then the shutter falls
You see it all in 3D
It's your favorite foreign movie
Peg
It will come back to you
Peg
It will come back to you
Then the shutter falls
You see it all in 3D
It's your favorite foreign movie
Peg
It will come back to you
Peg
It will come back to you
Then the shutter falls
You see it all in 3D
It's your favorite foreign movie
Your name in lights above it
This is your big debut
It's like a dream come true
So won't you smile for the camera
I know they're gonna love it, Peg
I like your pin shot
I keep it with your letter
Done up in blueprint blue
It sure looks good on you
And when you smile for the camera
I know I'll love you better
Peg
It will come back to you
Peg
It will come back to you
Then the shutter falls
You see it all in 3D
It's your favorite foreign movie
I like your pin shot
I keep it with your letter
Done up in blueprint blue
It sure looks good on you
And when you smile for the camera
I know I'll love you better
Peg
It will come back to you
Peg
It will come back to you
Then the shutter falls
You see it all in 3D
It's your favorite foreign movie
Peg
It will come back to you
Peg
It will come back to you
Then the shutter falls
You see it all in 3D
It's your favorite foreign movie
Peg
It will come back to you
Peg
It will come back to you
Then the shutter falls
You see it all in 3D
It's your favorite foreign movie
Peg
It will come back to you
Peg
It will come back to you
Then the shutter falls
You see it all in 3D
It's your favorite foreign movie
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This song is def a twin to "Unfair" (a song she has been quoted as saying is about falling in love with someone who is already in a relationship) so it is presumably about the same person. Given the references to buying an apartment and not being able to see her love interest "after tonight," it's most likely that she's moving away and she'll "wait a day to break the bad news" (i.e. notifying him that she's leaving once she's already gone).
And, of course, the fact that she sees in him a fellow "idealist" and "dreamer" (terms commonly given to people with the INFP personality on the Myers–Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI)) portends that she'll always be left wondering if they would've been perfect together.
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@[Diderik:33655] "Your a holiday!" Was a popular term used in the 50s/60s to compliment someone on their all around. For example, not only are they beautiful, but they are fun and kind too ... just an all around "holiday".
I think your first comment is closer to being accurate. The singer/song writers state "Millions of eyes can see, yet why am i so blind!? When the someone else is me, its unkind its unkind". I believe hes referring to the girl toying with him and using him. He wants something deeper with her, thats why he allows himself to be as a puppet (even though for her fun and games) as long as it makes her happy. But he knows deep down that she doesnt really want to be serious with him and thats what makes him.
This song is a re-assuring ballad written to a blind woman about her first professional bowling tournament where she's also healed from her blindness. The woman's name is of course Peg. Peg arrives at the lanes. Her picture and name in lights are on the TV, but she can't see them so she doesn't smile for the camera. They love it, because she's blind.
Then she starts to bowl. She has a good pin shot. She knocks down all the pins, and she smiles, because she can HEAR the pins fall. Then, shock. She's dismayed. She can't find the bowling ball. Peg. It will come back to you! Then, the shutter at the end of the lane falls, and she heals from her blindness, and sees the foreign world in 3-d for the first time, and it's like a movie.
Hahaha!! Great interpretation!! Love your sense of humor :)
LMFAO! This cracked me up so bad! I was genuinely searching for the meaning of this song and yours was the very first interpretation I read! Honestly, at first I thought, "wtf!? Could it seriously have such a bizarre implication? (Yes, I know... My picture was once next to the word GULLIBLE in dictionaries, but I got so much taunting correspondence that the dictionary authors thought it best to remove my image to avoid any costly legalities. Ha... Ha... Ha...) <br /> Anyway - I'd love to smoke a bowl with you while listening to random songs and hearing your interpretation of their meanings afterward. From the sound of this one, I could do this for hours! <br /> Thanks for the laugh! That made my night. :)
@sammytag1 That is one of the COOLEST song interpretations I have ever heard, hands down.
@sammytag1 @sammytag1 I want what sammy’s having. Far out, man.
Whatever this song was about, it is now about Peg the Blind Bowler.
@sammytag1 Have you gotten that professional help yet?
@sammytag1 Have you gotten that professional help yet?
@sammytag1 I like this interpretation better than the one Donald Fagen gives.
Perhaps a reference to "Peg" Entwistle -- the 25-year-old starlet who gained fame by jumping to her death from atop the Hollywood sign. After success on Broadway, Peg got her big debut in a 1932 movie that the studio ended up hating, and cutting out most of her part. The letter is her suicide note, published in the LA newspapers, of the pain she'd experienced. When she herself falls, it comes back to her -- seeing as one does all three-dimensions of a tragic ending (as foreign films are more known for ending in tragedy, rather than the happy "Hollywood" endings).
Okay, this one's not really that hard, but it seems like some of the previous posters are over analyzing, reading into, and also quoting incorrect lyrics. Therefore, I will over-analyze it as well, but I'll be spelling out why I believe my interpretation to be pretty close based on the actual lyrics, song history, etc.
First, we know that the speaker / singer in the song knows Peg or knows of Peg. I believe the folks who said that they may have had a previous relationship are spot on. He very well could be a stalker type fan, but if it's her "big debut", then how could she be famous enough to have a stalker? Nah, she left him to pursue her dream and he's a bit pissy about it.
She wrote him a letter, he got her "pin shot" of her in a "blueprint blue" dress and he know's he'll love her better than the public. This adds to the stalker element, but I don't think that's right for the reason I've already stated.
I think that the film, very well may be, a porno, but there's really no way of knowing for sure as the nature of the film is a bit obscured. Judging by the time period in which this song was written, (1976/1977 timeframe), it very well could be a porno because at that time it was common to have pornos in more mainstream theaters because of crossover movies like "Debbie Does Dallas" which were mainstream successes and were shown in all sorts of theaters. So, it could be a porn and probably is considering the chorus of the song and the very funky bass groove which was commented on quite a bit and is one element common to most pornos of the time. Porno bass funk to accompany the sex scenes.
"Peg, it will come back to you." This could mean a couple of things. It could mean that her actions on screen, if it is a porno, will come back to haunt her, but it could also mean that she is remembering something. Something she has forgotten will come back to her mind. I think that this line is intentionally ambiguous and I think that either of these interpretations are likely depending on what the listener has assumed about the movie.
But, if we look at "It" as being a memory that will come back, why has it gone and what is the memory that will come back? I'm thinking it's the memory of the love she shared with him, the singer or a memory of what the real world is like. At least, that's the only potential thing in the past that is referenced in the song that may "come back" to her. The memory of the man she left. Either interpretation works and they could be working simultaneously as a double entendre of sorts.
"Then the shutter falls, you see it all in 3-D. It's your favorite foreign movie."
This line really hasn't been analyzed as such on this page and it's a very important part of the song. It is, in fact, the summation of the song, the ending of such. "Then the shutter falls" is obviously referring to a camera shutter, most likely a movie camera (although the pin shot camera was also referenced and could also "fall").
Here's where everything comes together. "IT" will come back to Peg, then the shutter falls (meaning the film ends, maybe the movie career ends, the picture is taken, the movie industry (whether porn or legitimate) is done with her or at least done with the movie.
The camera is off "IT" came back to her. The "IT" is kind of the thing here. I think that it is the price of her fame, is to lose touch with the real wold. When this memory comes back to her, the shutter falls, and she sees the "dream come true" for what it is, a 3-D foreign movie. She has been lost in a 3-D dream world that isn't real. The reality is what comes back (or so hopes the singer of the song, I suppose).
That's my take on it at least. I've not seen a better analysis of the "favorite foreign movie" line. I had a dream about this song actually, probably b/c I listen to Steely Dan too much, and the dream seemed to follow along with the above analysis. Peg had forgotten the real world, she was living a dream, but when she finally remembered, it came back to her, and when the movie shoot was done she saw it all for what it really was. A 3-D foreign movie, but one that was (no doubt) her favorite.
What do you think?
jankout, your analysis of Peg extremely well thought-out. Excellent. I have to agree 100& with your perception.
I've always been trouble by the last verse, "...the shutter falls, you see it all in 3-D, it's your favorite foreign movie." This interpretation seems to pull it all together. Thanks!
@jankout Don't buy your interpretation of the bass line in the chorus inferring a porn movie. The slap bass technique employed by Chuck Rainey was a hot topic at the time it was recorded. In the Aja documentary, Rainey even says he had to sneak the slap element in as the band didn't want him to use it.
@jankout, I agree with you with everything except the bass referring to it being a porno, although I believe it could be a porno peg is in. I don’t follow the bowling thing at all. The 3-d foreign movie had me stumped too, the only thing that makes sense is that her real life is the 3-d foreign movie. Bravo! I couldn’t figure that out. I don’t believe the peg entwhistle thing either, because there is only one picture of her that has been colored with a green pencil or crayon, so there is no blue print blue dress. And they didn’t have 3-d movies in the early 30’s when Entwhistle was an actress. The whole bowling analogy sounds like a bad acid trip/nightmarish dream. Now we have to find an old 70’s porn where the actress’s real name is peg and she’s in a blue outfit of some kind. Although peg could be a made up name for someone in real life., so look for someone in “blueprint blue” in a movie poster for a mainstream like Debbie does Dallas. “Deb” “peg”?
@jankout , I actually ASKED Donald Fagen what this song was about and who Peg is/was on iMessenger. Doubt I get an answer, but it was worth a shot. You never know.
@jankout This is a band, that literally named itself after a steam powered mechanical Dildo from William Burroughs novel "Naked Lunch", so I think the thinly veiled references to porn/or at least movies with sexual content, are not far fetched at all. The chorus really makes more sense when you consider, especially in the late 70's when Aja was released, that "foreign movies" were in many cases known for their sexuality. Combine that with the fact that "sex movies" were also referred to as "blue movies", it all sort of lines up. "The shutter falls" meaning the shutter in the camera that is recording the movie she's in. For her, it's not a movie, it's reality. It's also possible to interpret this from his point of view: he sees it in his mind in 3-D, as he fantasizes about her -- thus it's his favorite "foreign movie".
It sounds like the narrator seeing his ex in a porno, the whole lyric with "It will come back to you" sounds like it's referring to the flim, like say she has kids or applies for a job, the fact that she was in a porn film will come back to her, it's going to have consequences.
Some of the best bass ever is here, on "Peg." Three cheers to Chuck Rainey! :>)
As to the actual lyrics, this song seems almost obviously to be about a guy seeing his old lover in a movie, most likely a porn flick, as things that are "inappropriate" are often called "blue." Also, I believe porn flicks were called "foreign" at one point in time.
I think it is much simplier than that, I know it is easy for one to think that there must be an obscure reference somewhere, after all, this is Steely Dan, but i think when they talk about a "blueprint blue" they are talking about the photograph, the pin-up shot, as it is common for a pin shot to be printed in cyan(blue) or sepia(brown) for a low budget movie. The song plot is about a guy who probably lost a girl in the past when she decided to go and pursuit an actress career, she probably left him a letter explaining she had to go, but she will always love him. After some years she made it and he recognizes her and thinks all of this to himself. The movie is probably a cheesy horror or murder mistery filmed in 3D in which at the end Peg gets to kill the murderer and we get to see him fall towards the camera "the shooter falls".
Well that's what I think anyway.
Sorry about my english I'm from Mexico!
@signx it's not shooter, he says shutter
It's about a porn star in those old Stag Films, They used to tint the B&W film blue
bingo! porn star! aja is similar in meaning most of this album is based on pining or wanting having or losing a lover
this song is absoltuely incredible, most feel good song ever, this should go down as one of the best songs ever written seriously
I heard that the bass player they used for this tune was into the "slap" style of bass playing at the time. becker & fagan were having none of it though. If you listen to the bass in the chorus section thouhg, the bass player has managed to sneak a slight "slap" in a couple of times though..!
You heard ? Where did you hear this ? Ha ha believe nothing you hear and FYI ''That bass player ''THEY USED'' LOL ... Was some guy named TIMOTHY B SCHMIDT of some band ''THE EAGLES'' ... wow how did you end up on this site I mean it's about music and you don't even know the basics an FYI Timothy did the song ''I CAN'T TELL YOU WHY' for THE EAGLES he didn't slap his bass at all LOL
@NJJ you "heard" right, the fool below puntang is dead wrong, go to youtube and search for "Peg Steely Dan the making of". Timothy B Schmidt was not the bass player, it was Chuck Rainey, check it out: youtube.com/watch
@NJJ I'll second the "pumag13 is an idiot" comment. Chuck Rainey played the bass on that track and talks all about the slap technique controversy. Classic Albums, Aja episode
To expand on that a little. He actually turned facing away from them so that when it came to the chorus he could play it slap, as he knew it would sound better. Becker & Fagen didn't even notice at first. Wonderful
my favorite part of the song is that funky bass line classic, never gets boring