| Twenty One Pilots – Ride Lyrics | 8 years ago |
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@[Moonbeam86:21594] Look I know I should not question your beliefs, apparently they help you but... -"I know that my own exploration of apologetics and theology has opened my eyes to the possibility of a much greater purpose, giving my life new meaning and purpose and combatting my own suicidal thoughts."- 1. Have you ever looked at the criticisms of apologetics? I recommend Steve Shives and his 'an Atheist reads' series (he goes through in considerable detail individual apologetics books and attempts analyse them with an open mind). 2. You believe in a God that allows "Every minute a person attempts suicide; every day 70 Americans take their own lives (nearly three every hour)." You understand how difficult depression is and yet you believe God inflicts/ or allows you to suffer depression? If that's not bad enough your God allows "Approximately 3.1 million children die from hunger each year." Surely, logically, if God exists he/she does not give a shit about you? "I think we each need to find meaning. (That, again, is a common theme in twenty one pilots songs.) I hope you're able to find meaning in your life as well." I really appreciate that but I hope to find that meaning from my friends and family not being that almost certainly does not give a damn about me or even exist. I wish you the best in the daily struggle, that is life. |
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| Twenty One Pilots – Ride Lyrics | 8 years ago |
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@[Moonbeam86:21556] "(This is particularly true if you believe in an afterlife.)" I am an atheist and also in counseling. I would have thought the opposite made more sense. If someone believes in an afterlife, presumably they would at least consider the possibility that suicide could lead to hell or some other kind of after-life punishment. Whereas, someone who doesn't believe in an afterlife likely sees an end to their pain, without obvious personal consequences. |
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