| Mumford & Sons – Babel Lyrics | 12 years ago |
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Do you have any knowledge of the Communist Manifesto or the tower of Babel? Furthermore, was simply pulling an apparent connection between the communist manifesto and my post suppose to defeat my argument? OR was your rebuttal simply saying " I believe this song is about no such thing, and can see no evidence whatsoever in what you have written"? If so, wonderful rebuttal! I'm sure everyone who likes to reduce their intellect to the level of the passions thinks your so clever! I did, in fact, provide an argument that was intimately connected to the song's lyrics. If you wish to provide a real rebuttal to my argument, I would love to hear it! I'm in pursuit of truth! Until then, please don't make such stupid remarks. As for your interpretation: I feel it lacks depth, but contains within it certain truths that are actually compatible with my own. If, like I said, this song is expressing the transformation of the poet out of the mediocrity of the bourgeois culture into a place where he wishes to rely totally upon grace. Then your interpretation of "breaking down the walls of resistance in oneself" fits perfectly! This is the process which is necessary to undergo this transformation. And to your final comment, "ITs about trying to attain the divinity of love," I would agree. But it certainly doesn't paint this process as direct result of him being born without a mask. If you've read the tower of Babel, Its not just God getting mad at humans and knocking down a tower; rather, its concerning humans who wish to reach the heavens without God. God smites them to help them realize their dependance. So, if the poet is going to 'play [his] bloody part to tear' down this tower then he doesn't want people to try "to attain the divinity of love" but rather to turn to grace and dependency. |
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| Mumford & Sons – I Will Wait Lyrics | 12 years ago |
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I admire your zeal, but how about some Charity my friend! "If I have all knowledge but have not love; I am nothing." I want to pose a question to you, cwalker02. Is this song intrinsically about Christ? (A.K.A. Marcus Mumford, who left his parent's church intended the illusion to the second coming to be very literal.) OR is the person who this song is written to a Christ figure to Marcus? You validly point out the religious imagery, but that doesn't mean that the song is directly inspired by the Holy Spirit. Don't let your theological imagination escape reality; this would be the most tragic event I could imagine. Rather, let it help you develop capacity to express the mystery. Especially the mystery St. Paul talks about "It is not I who live but He who lives in me." I think Mumford is expressing their gratefulness for someone who has showed them Christ-like love, probably a woman. But maybe I'm wrong! Maybe Mumford is a more devout Christian than I imagine (you know, like most Rock-Stars)! The true beauty of Mumford's lyrics is that they are so versatile. They can apply to so many situations. They wrap themselves around the human experience so wonderfully that they touch many truths thereof. So, even if your right, you can't call these people ignorant. And if you really want to share your eschatological zeal, let me remind you that in the modern age the fire and brimstone speeches aren't effective in communicating the love of Christ, which should be the cause of all we do, especially conversion. I believe in you cwalker02, continue to spread the Gospel! (But please do it by living it; by letting your life become an interrogation to the world. Do it by becoming Christ to the world. And what did he do? He entered it, loved it, taught his friends, and expressed his love by redeeming the whole world through the paschal mystery.) |
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| The Lumineers – Big Parade Lyrics | 13 years ago |
| I think a real understanding of this song hinges on the line "All my life I was blind, I was blind, now I see," which is repeated 4 times throughout the song. His love for this girl has awoken his eyes from the broken reality of the song. The song in sandwiched in the stanza containing both elements of this: the girl and a new awakening. She is his 'saving grace.' The middle part of the song is what used to obsess his mind and the evolution to accepting grace through love. At once all he cared about was politics and the business of the world. The reference to the the painter is his experience with art--which is not mundane but rather transcendental. This experience is the beginning of his transformation. When he sees the priest leave his church for romance, he sees how romance can be corrupting, which he explores further in the next section, referencing the 'girls with the roomkeys.' Despite this realization he continues on the right path, he echo's the beginning of the poem "Lovely girl, won't you stay with me!" this time with much more enthusiasm. He wants to stay with this girl, he desires a commitment. that will transcend the world "Burn the car," he's found his "saving grace." | |
| Mumford & Sons – I Will Wait Lyrics | 13 years ago |
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Now, here is why you are wrong: you have absolutely NO EVIDENCE.... How do you derive "we need only to believe" from "I won't forget"? If anything his implies that the actions of the poet will always reflect the forgiveness they have already received, which would mean living morally. "Shake the excess," therefore wouldn't be "shake the guilt" the poet recognizes guilt as good insofar as it brings change to one's life, but doesn't want life to be consumed by guilt. Let us, however look at the line "shake the excess" in the context of other parts of the song. If you're right and this is a commentary on religion, then when the poet refers to "him with less," what would come to mind but Christ himself, who lives his teaching of poverty radically? Christ says, "blessed are the poor in spirit." "It will be harder for the rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven that for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle." Therefore, if this be a biblical reference, then "shake the excess" would be much more clearly understood as "live poverty" whether that be in spirit or in a more radical way. Furthermore, you're pretty little bible quotes: "So take my flesh and fix my eyes." does relate to these quotes, but not in the way you have interpreted by any means! Galatians 5:16 " I say, then: live by the Spirit and you will certainly not gratify the desire of the flesh." Paul is telling the Galatians (members of the Universal Church) to serve others rather than themselves. This quote, therefore is saying to be docile to the holy spirit and do not let your concupisible desires consume you, but rather live temperately (virtuously) and follow the will of God. 2 Cor 4:18 "We look not to what is seen but to what is unseen; for what is seen is transitory, but what is unseen is eternal." Beautiful insight putting these two together with this line! I commend you! But how does leaving the flesh to live for God and asking God to fix your sight upon him and him alone denounce the idea of the Church? If I give you a generous interpretation, then this does not even comment upon the nature of religion vs. spirituality, but rather is simply a prayer to God to allow him to be docile to the Spirit and not be attached (as he has already tried to shake the excess), to serve others, and to be fixed upon this mission. (This is the VERY MISSION OF THE CHURCH, so it doesn't argue against the church at all). So, this isn't what he is trying to say. I will come out with a commentary in following days with more substantiated evidence to support my claim, but I believe it to both be commenting on a woman and upon God. He steps up the latter Socrates describes in the Syposium as he writes. The "you" will cease to be the woman and become the good within her, and as he keeps climbing, he is waiting for God himself to be more present in his life, and therefore not buying into the narrow-souled, bourgeois, progressive mindset of building a "tower of babel" in the state and attempting to create utopia. Without God, this is a hopeless task. |
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| Mumford & Sons – Babel Lyrics | 13 years ago |
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This song is a beautiful examination of the bourgeois mindset. They comment on the pelagian nature of society, they are building their own 'tower of babel' because they see the society collapsing behind their progressive thought, "I write home laughing, 'look at me now,' / the walls of my home come crumbling down." He simply "goes along" with this mindset; all his life his "greed and pride" has been nursed by society and he accepts this mentality for its face value. He is promised success, that they will "slip into the cloud." His conscious, however, seems to contradict this notion of being able to reach the heavens without grace from the beginning "I believe in grace and choice." But he has seen the depths of human falleness, "So come down from your mountain and stand where we've been / You know our breath is weak and our body is dead." What he wishes is to be "born without a mask" to be born into truth, which wears no mask and is what is. He examines this mentality (as it is attractive, who wouldn't want to get to the heavens on their own--it is an accomplishment of all time!). He finds his answer, however, as he begins his attempt: "Press my nose up to the glass around your heart / I should have known I was weaker from the start" Here he gets as far as he can, but cannot reach the heart of the divine without help, his nose hits the glass, and he cannot go any farther without grace. He therefore says he will do everything he can to bring this bourgeois mindset to an end: "You built your wall so now we'll play in my bloody part to tear, to tear it down / Well I'm gonna tear, tear them down" |
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| Adele – Rolling in the Deep Lyrics | 13 years ago |
| That's tasteless, why use a sexual reference? Simply un-needed and tasteless. Where is this culture headed? | |
| Mumford & Sons – Little Lion Man Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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This song works on multiple levels: the Man apologizing to the girl for messing up, the Man talking to himself and realizing all he did wrong, and the Man pointing out a over-all theme in mankind. The first level is blatantly seen in the chorus. The second one is easily interpreted from the verses, and the third is the harder one to see, that is what I will focus on. "Weep for yourself, my man Men who sit around and feel sorry for themselves You'll never be what is in your heart will never become what they wish to be Weep little lion man Its sad You're not as brave as you were at the start But they're wounded from all your previous relationships Rate yourself and raKe* yourself They need to realize what kind of person they are, and rake out all your malfeasance's Take all the courage you have left they've used up too much courage Wasted on fixing all the problems Fixing problems that That you made in your own head" they've made up in the first place. "Tremble for yourself, my man They're future is uncertain and frightening You know that you have seen this all before They know not all is well, as they've seen the results of their screw-ups before Tremble little lion man You'll never settle any of your scoreS* They'll never be able to make up for the people they've hurt Your grace is wasted in your face They're charm means nothing Your boldness stands alone among the wreck They're risks are meaningless Learn from your mother Learn to do the right thing (what your mother tells you) Or else spend your days biting your own neck" Or else, history will simply repeat itself. |
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| Van Morrison – And It Stoned Me Lyrics | 15 years ago |
| Jelly Roll symbolizes sex, sorry i didnt manage to get that out in my previous comment | |
| Van Morrison – And It Stoned Me Lyrics | 15 years ago |
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This song is defiantly not about getting high, i interpret it to be about a girl. In this song 'water' symbolizes this girl. 'jelly roll' is a common symbol in blues, where a lot of van's inspiration comes from. Knowing that, let us start with the first verse: "Half a mile from the county fair And the rain keep pourin' down Me and Billy standin' there With a silver half a crown Hands are full of a fishin' rod And the tackle on our backs We just stood there gettin' wet With our backs against the fence" He is away from society, away from anything to influence him, and the rain keeps pouring. He doesn't seem to mind getting wet, and goes on with what he's doing. The rain is water, so these thoughts of the girl keep coming to him, they are out of his control, and he is more or less indifferent to them. in the bridge: "Oh, the water Oh, the water Oh, the water Hope it don't rain all day" he mentions that he doesnt want the water to keep coming all day, while he was indifferent before, now he is tired of it. but then comes the chorus: "And it stoned me to my soul Stoned me just like Jelly Roll And it stoned me And it stoned me to my soul Stoned me just like goin' home And it stoned me" The thoughts of this girl, or being in her presence stones him, meaning they make him feel good, just like his drugs. He says that it stones him like jelly roll, meaning that the thoughts of her fullfill his sexual desires, he doesn't actually need the sexual fulfillment because his attraction to her is deeper than that of a surface level, sexual attraction. The second Verse and Bridge continue: "Then the rain let up and the sun came up And we were gettin' dry Almost let a pick-up truck nearly pass us by So we jumped right in and the driver grinned And he dropped us up the road We looked at the swim and we jumped right in Not to mention fishing poles Oh, the water Oh, the water Oh, the water Let it run all over me" Him getting dry is him stopping thinking about her, or leaving her presence, then he make the conscience decision to jump into the water, followed by the bridge verse, "let it run all over me." Now that the thoughts of this girl have stopped, he realizes what he is missing, and makes the conscience decision to go after her, and comes to the conclusion that he likes her. the third verse and the final bridge are my favorite: "On the way back home we sang a song But our throats were getting dry Then we saw the man from across the road With the sunshine in his eyes Well he lived all alone in his own little home With a great big gallon jar There were bottles too, one for me and you And he said Hey! There you are Oh, the water Oh, the water Oh, the water Get it myself from the mountain stream" He has already made his decision that he likes this girl, but he does not know how to go about winning her affection. This is where the old man comes in, the "sunshine in his eyes" represents his wisdom, and the wise man gives him the 'tools' he needs to win her attraction, the bottles. This is where he goes out of his way to the mountain stream to get it himself. After reading jimmyl008's comment, I enjoy the beauty of this song even more, as he is paralleling a childhood experience with the story of him and this mystery woman. Anyways mr. gottaBlackRocket... you'll have to find a new favorite song about getting high, as this one is not at all about that. Maybe look to the beatles? |
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| Van Morrison – And It Stoned Me Lyrics | 15 years ago |
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This song is defiantly not about getting high, i interpret it to be about a girl. In this song 'water' symbolizes this girl. 'jelly roll' is a common symbol in blues, where a lot of van's inspiration comes from. Knowing that, let us start with the first verse: "Half a mile from the county fair And the rain keep pourin' down Me and Billy standin' there With a silver half a crown Hands are full of a fishin' rod And the tackle on our backs We just stood there gettin' wet With our backs against the fence" He is away from society, away from anything to influence him, and the rain keeps pouring. He doesn't seem to mind getting wet, and goes on with what he's doing. The rain is water, so these thoughts of the girl keep coming to him, they are out of his control, and he is more or less indifferent to them. in the bridge: "Oh, the water Oh, the water Oh, the water Hope it don't rain all day" he mentions that he doesnt want the water to keep coming all day, while he was indifferent before, now he is tired of it. but then comes the chorus: "And it stoned me to my soul Stoned me just like Jelly Roll And it stoned me And it stoned me to my soul Stoned me just like goin' home And it stoned me" The thoughts of this girl, or being in her presence stones him, meaning they make him feel good, just like his drugs. He says that it stones him like jelly roll, meaning that the thoughts of her fullfill his sexual desires, he doesn't actually need the sexual fulfillment because his attraction to her is deeper than that of a surface level, sexual attraction. The second Verse and Bridge continue: "Then the rain let up and the sun came up And we were gettin' dry Almost let a pick-up truck nearly pass us by So we jumped right in and the driver grinned And he dropped us up the road We looked at the swim and we jumped right in Not to mention fishing poles Oh, the water Oh, the water Oh, the water Let it run all over me" Him getting dry is him stopping thinking about her, or leaving her presence, then he make the conscience decision to jump into the water, followed by the bridge verse, "let it run all over me." Now that the thoughts of this girl have stopped, he realizes what he is missing, and makes the conscience decision to go after her, and comes to the conclusion that he likes her. the third verse and the final bridge are my favorite: "On the way back home we sang a song But our throats were getting dry Then we saw the man from across the road With the sunshine in his eyes Well he lived all alone in his own little home With a great big gallon jar There were bottles too, one for me and you And he said Hey! There you are Oh, the water Oh, the water Oh, the water Get it myself from the mountain stream" He has already made his decision that he likes this girl, but he does not know how to go about winning her affection. This is where the old man comes in, the "sunshine in his eyes" represents his wisdom, and the wise man gives him the 'tools' he needs to win her attraction, the bottles. This is where he goes out of his way to the mountain stream to get it himself. After reading jimmyl008's comment, I enjoy the beauty of this song even more, as he is paralleling a childhood experience with the story of him and this mystery woman. Anyways mr. gottaBlackRocket... you'll have to find a new favorite song about getting high, as this one is not at all about that. Maybe look to the beatles? |
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