| Tool – Forty Six & 2 Lyrics | 22 years ago |
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All people, Aborigine or not, have 46 chromosomes. There is a condition where you only have 45 or 47, I don't remember the numbe ro name. But that doesn't cause them to be inhuman or not of the homo sapien species, that's just ludicrous. Yes, to say the number of chromosomes present is any indication about intelligence of spiritual evolution is a load of hooey... it works better as a metaphor. |
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| Tool – Forty Six & 2 Lyrics | 22 years ago |
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Just wanted to say a little here about Jung straight from a college psychology book: "Carl Jung [believed] there is a collective unconscious shared by all human beings, containing universal memories, symbols, and images that are the legacy of human history." "The shadow archetype (archetype being a common theme) reflects the prehistoric fear of wild animals and represents the bestial, evil side of human nature." "The anima represents the feminine archetype in men (whereas the animus represents the masculine archetype in women)" "Many of JUng's ideas were more suited to mysticism and philosophy than to empirical pscyhology, which may be why so many Jungian ideas are popular with New Age movements today." "He believed that people are motivated by not only past conflicts, but also by future goals and their desire to fulfill themselves." Anyway, thought that would clear a few things up. |
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| Limp Bizkit – Opiate (Tool cover) Lyrics | 22 years ago |
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MountainJew said: "I wonder what he thought when he was singing the lines "My Gods Will, Becomes Me, When He Speaks, He Speaks Through Me, He Has Needs, Like I Do, We Both Want To Rape You" I wonder if he actually knew MJK was speaking as if he was Jesus, and how he and god both want to rape the masses," I'm pretty sure he was speaking as if he was a preacher, not Jesus (Jesus being a preacher himself notwithstanding). |
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| A Perfect Circle – Judith Lyrics | 22 years ago |
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the hollowmen: I think the phrase "He did it all for you" is a sarcastic remark.... a scoff at the rambles along the lines of "A lot of bad stuff has happened to me, but God has done it all for me, to show me [insert delusion of choice]". Such as: "I totaled my car today, but God did it all for me, made it happen for me, to show me that I don't need material things like my car." |
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| Dave Matthews Band – What Would You Say Lyrics | 22 years ago |
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outKast524: Save your insults for someone who is so insecure that they care. Meaning is where you find it. Art is subjective. Even if it means something intentionally, it can mean something else entirely to someone else. If you can't appreciate that, then whatever, but that is a fundamental rule of all art. Besides... How can you say that "truely (sic) there isnt [a meaning]"? You didn't write it. So unless you have a quote from Dave, don't bother. |
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| Nine Inch Nails – Heresy Lyrics | 22 years ago |
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Well, Christianity isn't only bad in regards to killing -- there are a lot of flag-waving Christians who are keeping children from learning valuable things about the world -- like evolution -- because it contradicts what they think is right or what the Bible says. You're right, not everybody in a religion is accountable for what other people do, but when you have a high majority acting in a certain way, you can't say that it doesn't exist, or it isn't a problem. The Bible saying that all people on Earth come from Adam or Eve, or even Noah and his compatriots, is utter nonsense. It's non-scientific, it's not validated, and to tell people otherwise is to hold them back, education-wise, and intellectually (because if you get too far in to believing something, you may never come out). As far as wars being a product only of man... that's the "only give God credit for the good things" line again. If a parent tells his child where a loaded gun is, and the child shoots someone, why is the parent not responsible? In the same way, if God gives man free will, and man uses free will to kill, then why is God not responsible? Anyway... I'm so sick of the term "sheep" in regards to religious people or metal "posers" or anything. It's cliche, it's overdone, and I hope it doesn't show up in any more lyrics... people could be more imaginative... they're supposed to be ARTISTS, for crying out loud... |
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| A Perfect Circle – Judith (Danny Lohner Remix) Lyrics | 22 years ago |
| This song is wicked. I'm starting to wonder which version I like better. | |
| A Perfect Circle – Judith Lyrics | 22 years ago |
| Well, scissor hands, a lot of people care about what Maynard has to say -- and a lot of people consider him a great philosopher as well... although he isn't a theologian, true. If the message is, "Think for yourself", which you support, and then they think (for themselves) that it means fuck GOD or CHRIST, then they have the right to think that, and you support it. It's not a stupid assessment since it is their own assessment and there is no concrete meaning (that we know of) to deviate from -- which would show ignorance. If all possibilities are equally likely, then none is superior. | |
| Stillwater – Fever Dog Lyrics | 22 years ago |
| It's not Jason Lee singing it. It's some other guy whose name I don't remember. Jason Lee could not sing like that. | |
| Dave Matthews Band – What Would You Say Lyrics | 22 years ago |
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I'm not a theist, but I debate them, and I always thought this song was about questioning God and other stuff in the Bible. In fact, that's mostly why I enjoy it. Let me elaborate: "Up and down a puppies hair Fleas and Ticks jump everywhere Because of original sin" -- Adam and Eee eating from the forbidden Tree of Knowledge Of Good and Evil in the garden of Eden was called The Original Sin, and therefore every person born after that is born a sinner and must be cleansed and prove himself again (as opposed to Adam and Eve, who were supposedly born perfect, meaning, without sin). When he says Fleas and Ticks jump everywhere, it's like your sins, your lies, all the things we consider bad about people, and how they're "jumping around" inside us. "Down the hill fell Jack and Jill" -- Adam and Eve... "And you came tumbling after Because of original sin" -- Since they sinned, you have to pay for it, being a successive generation (quite several, if you believe the whoel thing) from them. "Rip away the tears Drink a hope to happy years And you may find A lifetime's passed you by" -- It's sort of like, don't dwell on the negative thinsg that happened, but try to learn from there -- or you'll spend your whole life in bitter regret and anger. This is the part, te struggle about whether to question God or not: "What would you say Don't drop the big one If you were a monkey on a string" Don't cut my lifeline If you were a doggie on a chain" -- What would you say, he's saying, if someone told you that you were just a puppet to God, playing along to what he planned out? There is quite an argument going around, and it says that if God is omniscient, then he knew what Adam and Eve would do (even though they would have "free will"God still knows the outcome) and yet he chose to put them there ANYWAY, casuing the whole Original Sin, the damnation of mankind, to take place. In that way, Adam and Eve were just pawns in a bigger plan, puppets, monkeys on strings, dogs on leashes, however you want to paint the same picture. "Don't bite the mailman What would you say" -- Don't bite the mailman is sort like, don't do what you shouldn't do. It's another allusion to not eating from the Tree, and don't "bite the mailman" could also be the way of saying, "Maybe you shouldn't question God." "I was there when the bear Ate his head, thought it was a candy Everyone goes in the end" -- Taking the apple, eating it, without caring... and then about the inevitably of death, and the underlying question of: We're all going to die, so we should enjoy our time here: should we question? Should we rebel? Should we only do what has been planned for us? etc etc "Knock knock on the door Who?s it for, there?s nobody in here Look in the mirror, my friend" -- After they ate, Adam and Eve were ashamed and God was saying, "Where are you? Why are you hiding?" You could chalk this up to another example of God not knowing everything, but it's not curcial. What he's saying is, God knows you are there and what you did, regardless of whether you deny it. "I don?t understand at best And cannot speak for all the rest" -- He doesn't understand why he is responsible for the original sin, much like white men today shouldn't be responsible for slavery so long ago. "The morning rise a lifetime?s passed me by Every dog has its day every day has its way Of being forgotten - Mom it?s my birthday What would you say" -- This is where he sort of throws in the towel on the whoe pondering, and says, "Well, I'm going to die some day, so maybe this is one of the things I shouldn't worry about." Wow, I sounded like such a fundie here. Ah well. I didn't write it. |
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| A Perfect Circle – Judith Lyrics | 22 years ago |
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This song isn't really that complicated. I've known a couple people like Judith, and they stand out like people in bright yellow paint. Maynard said once that this CD is supposed to reflect the range of emotions of a relationship, or what happens after the relationship. This is the "angry, finger-pointing song." But it's not illogical. The song is saying, "Why are you on your knees thanking God for everything in life when he does this to you?" If God is in control of everything, then he causes all the bad things to happen to you as well as the good. Even if you claim you have free will, God is supposed to have omniscience, which means that he knows what choice you will make and gears what will (or won't) happen accordingly. If he knows you will make a choice that will turn out bad for you, why does he allow it to happen? So you learn from your experience, but the bigger picture is that you carry a lot of pain, regret, depression, etc This sort of thing causes almost innumable amount of people to seek psychological/psychiatric attention every year, sometimes for the remainder of their life. Is that worth it, for that little bit of "free will"? If you were on a bike, and you were about to roll out into traffic, and someone helf you back, would you regret it? Anyway, it's an old argument that still stands: Why does God get credit for all the good but is not responsible for any of the bad? It is further elaborated in the philosophical problem of evil, and again, free will is not the answer, nor is, "We can never understand God, he works in mysterious ways." It's a song about over-dependance and looking the other way. |
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| Tool – Opiate Lyrics | 22 years ago |
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As promised -- REGARDING Maynard's View on Religion: (from an interview conducted by a professor of philosophy, also a Tool fan): "(Prof)essor: I'll start with your first two albums, opiate and undertow. The title of the first ablum is a referance to the Marx and Engels line "Religion is the opiate of the masses"? (M)aynard: Yes, that's right. Prof: You seem to have a rather scathing view of Christianity. M.: My views against Christianity or religion in general are directed towards the 'middle men'-those who are in power and use religion as a market force by which to manipulate human beings for their own personal gain. Prof: Were there personal experiances in your life in which you witnessed first account cases of hypocrisy in Christianity? M: I was raised a Southern Baptist. I witnessed first-hand the hypocrisy of this particular form of Christianity. But it was a gradual thing. As I got older, I began to see people claiming one set of beliefs and acting in ways which directly opposed those views." And... What the song means according to Adam Jones (the guitarist): "Adam: Yeah, and it's also like a lot of people don't get it, and they'll say they get it and if it's positive, I go "okay, that's cool". You don't go "oh no no man, you're not getting it" I mean, if someone's negatively not getting it, I go "dude, that's *not* what it's about". You know, like people come up to us, and we have a song called OPIATE, and it's about you know um, the corruption of Christian religion being forced down our fucking throats. Alot of people take that as like a pro Christian song, and these Christians come up to us going "Dude, you know, that song saved my life, and thankyou Jesus" and I go "ok, cool". See, it's positive." So there you go. |
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| Tool – Opiate Lyrics | 22 years ago |
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To The_Grudge54: RE: "its sad to hear you feel that way. As far as i'm concerned if you belive in evolution you are not a smart fellow. If you do belive in it, do me a favor...One day go outside and just look around at your surrondings. Just sit and stare at the beauty. You actually think this all happened from chance? No way." -- Stupid why? Evolution is both a valid and well-supported scientific fact AND scientific theory. Micro-evolution has been proved time and time again in a lab, and macro-evolution (backed by the fossil record) is the most reasonable, scientifically-accurate explanation for the diversity of life on Earth. Evolution does not occur by pure chance -- that is a fairy tale, a misunderstanding -- there are far more factors than that. The "Go outside, look at all the beauty" line is misleading -- there is a lot of imperfection not only in biology but other systems of our universe. RE: "There is no way to prove the bible wrong." It HAS been proven wrong, over and over. It contradicts itself and it does not correlate with the scientific fact of reality. RE: "Lets face it, there is no gray area in life between right and wrong. There are things that are right, and things that are wrong." That's complete b.s. and you know it. RE: "Its not manipulated by any way." This is EXACTLY what this song addresses. I'll post actual quotes (from Maynard and Adam) regarding what this song is about later when I get home from college.... |
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