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@[Addo:52136] Trower is indeed a great player on his own. Having said that, playing a white Stratocaster tuned down a half step much of the time, playing through a Marshall Plexi for dirty and often using a Fender blackface amp for clean and studio, using a Wah, a univibe, a fuzz and an Octave divider just may have been a coincidence. Perhaps Hendrix didn't influence him at all. Back to reality! Of course he was heavily influenced by Hendrix, but what great blues rock player of the late 60s with Procal Harem and the early 70s as Robin Trower wasn't influenced by Hendrix? Especially if they are any good. His use of the Dominant 7th Sharp 9 chord (which Hendricks obviously didn't invent but since it's called the Hendrix chord in modern guitar parlance tends to suggest that Jimis heavy use of the chord especially in purple Haze, not to mention trowers heavy use of chords using a wrapped thumb and playing cord fragments including double stops, triads and other Curtis Mayfield / Jimi Hendrix R&b guitar isms as you can clearly hear on his mellow songs such as daydream, which is very reminiscent of hendrix's balance on albums like access builders love, electric ladyland and cry of love.. on the album are you experienced and many of hendrix's live recordings people think that Hendricks is mostly bombast and showmanship based on the heaviness of the early tracks and based on the crappy recordings of much of hendrix's live material not to mention the fact that at some of the premiere shows Hendrix was wasted out of his mind. That being said, to suggested Hendrix wasn't a great guitar player in the same vein as someone like Eddie Van Halen and Stevie Ray Vaughan all of whom essentially reinvented the way the guitar was approached during their era. Trower is one of the grapes but he is not in the echelon of Hendrix Van Halen Jimmy Page John McLaughlin aldineola Derek Johnson Stevie Ray Vaughan and guys like that so let's not get too ahead of ourselves. If you play guitar you know this and if you do play guitar and don't know this it means you either haven't studied Hendrix at all or you are one of a number of players who wrote Hendricks off because of some crappy alive material that he saw and decided to be a detractor simply because it's always cool to find your own guy and go against the opinions of the critics and I'm not talking about critics in rock magazines but critics who are excellent guitar players. The only guy I've ever heard of that does that is famous is Marty Friedman and maybe a handful of other metalheads who are great chops guys but really don't know their heads from their ass as far as blues rock influences history creativity and the fact that those guys can't play that kind of style really at all. Hendrix's songs are far more complex harmonically, lyrically and in terms of lead rhythm his style of rhythm and lead simultaneously etc. I've heard Trower live and he's fantastic and obviously I'm too young to watch Henry's play live but I have some bootlegs with him playing acoustic and electric unaccompanied by his bands whether the experience or band of gypsies and I will tell you one thing he was absolutely mind blowing. The only great live recording of Hendrix is the recording of the band of gypsies record which was basically based on a lawsuit because Hendrix did not prefer to play with that band because they were drastically inferior to the experience. Noel Redding and Mitch Mitchell were phenomenal studio musicians and were chosen because they could hang with Hendrix. The bootleg recordings that I have on cassette I believe were recording so Tim that Eddie Kramer recorded in the studio while Hendrix was simply screwing around doing some writing and trying to perfect some of his tunes. in the studio, he was all business and work for 18 hours straight 4 weeks at a time as if he was a young partner at a top Law firm, an investment banker with a top Wall Street firm or medical doctor during his residency. Also I'm sure Hendrix was using some type of substance to work this many hours it was most likely either a psychedelic or some type of speed or other stimulant. He was not drunk and out of his mind like he was during Isle of wight, Woodstock and other recordings where everyone sounds like other garbage unless they're playing with acoustic instruments like Crosby stills Nash & Young. Electric instruments played with crank ed 100 watt tube amps using full stacks where the amps were mic into a s***** sound system during the 60s, you are hard-pressed to sound anyone who plays at that volume doesn't sound like absolute ass live. Do yourself a favor if you're a serious guitar player and have for some reason decided that Hendrix is not for you. Pick up all of his albums and spend the time learning the songs using your ear and if that proves challenging on some songs which it definitely will go on YouTube and look for the players that get the songs right. You will know the songs are correct or not based on your ear if it is developed to any reasonable level. Basically meaning if you've been playing guitar for 5 to 10 years you should definitely be able to tell which guys are teaching the songs correctly in which guys are screwing them up. Hint there's a lot more guys who f****** the songs then guys who get them right. If you follow guys like Tim Pierce the guy on shut up and play I forget his name, and other cats like that you will get the point. By the way many modern players such as Richie Kotzen, where you can hear Hendrix is influence, as well as guys who are better known as shredders like Paul gilbert, Joe satriani, Steve vai, and even yngwie malmsteen we're all heavily influenced by Hendrix and then of course Eric Johnson and Steve Ray Vaughan and you can hear it in your playing. The point is this, Hendrix is basically the guitar players equivalent to bands like the Beatles The rolling Stones and Elvis presley. Without them in other words without guys like that there would not be modern guitar or modern rock music and when I say modern I don't mean the garbage on the radio nowadays I mean what happened to rock and roll and guitar playing between the 50s early in the mid 60s and then the late 60s 70s and 80s were people that exponentially better. Now that there's YouTube the number of young virtuosos is off the charts. Am I suggesting that they are better musicians? Not at all they are simply guys who have finger dexterity that is off the charts. Nobody ever claimed that Hendrix was a technical virtuoso although for the time in rock and roll he was technically better than just about everybody else but, in other genres like jazz fusion with John McLaughlin alveniola and guys like that as well as jazz players like Joe pass and George Benson there was no contest they were much better players than Jimi Hendrix but as far as creativity and as far as what he did between the ages of 23 and 27 is unprecedented and has not been repeated since it just hasn't. So although I can understand why you are sick and tired of people always saying that Trower is great and implying that he ripped off Hendrix I don't believe that at all but I do believe that although he's great, and actually has gotten better through the years because he never got all f***** up and time makes you a better player. Having said that, what he recorded is some of my favorite stuff but it wouldn't exist if Hendricks hadn't come first nor is it as impressive in terms of creativity complexity and overall feel. I know music is a subjective art form but certain things are just objective when it comes right down to it. Also there are times when I prefer Robin Trower and I do love his entire catalog it's just not Hendrix because he didn't take the chances Hendrix took and he's not really responsible for influencing generation of players. He was part of the movement but guys like page Clapton Hendrix back were far more influential than Robin Trower and that's just the way it is. Had Trower started cutting tracks like the one she did in the '70s in the mid to late 60s before other guys had done that with blues rock he would be heralded as one of the most influential players of all time but since he didn't he's not considered guitar royalty. Also he's definitely in my top 20 given the time that he did what he did. I wouldn't put him against page plant back or Van Halen Gary Johnson Stevie Ray Vaughan Joe bonamassa as far as what he's done to push the genre of rock guitar forward. I know Clapton's right influential and I know towns in three but I don't think they did that much to push the genre forward either.. Clapton they have introduced a lot of white kids to the Blues and I think cream was a great band, I just think that over the years he's been given a pass that makes him somewhat overrated also his blue phrasing on his best work is brilliant and I say blue phrasing meaning in the Rock context because ias a pure blues player he's just another one of many good blues players. the Greats we're already responsible for writing the catalog from which Clapton borrows. He like many other Rock players including Nick Taylor who was a great player, Peter Green, Paul cost off and the other obvious guys from Britain including David gilmour when my opinions much better than Clapton simply took American blues and put it into a rock and roll contacts which made Rock much cooler and much more soulful but Clapton did that work with cream and Derek and blind Faith which was the first five years of his career and the rest of his career during the 70s until the late 80s was mostly tired of boring stuff and when he recorded the unplugged stuff in the early 90s from that point on he wasn't doing anything creative. Also if you see Clapton live by himself without being on stage in some circles with a bunch of other Legends he does have brilliant phrasing if he sticks to what he's good at which is rock and roll in a blues style. Trailer in my opinion is just as good as Clapton but again he wasn't the guy that introduced generations of guitar players to the Blues and he played too close to Hendrix to get as much recognition as he might deserve okay my biggest gripe and the reason this lengthy reply is the fact that you did the same thing that you accuse the other guy doing and s*** all over Jimi Hendrix. 2 hours a great player with or without Hendrix but the fact that he was heavily influenced by Henry more than most of the other players is very obvious to anybody who plays guitar, from the sound to the gear he used and the playing style in general. I think shower tends to be more dreamy and introspective at times and tends to be faster and heavier at other times like in a song such as day of the eagle but instead of using the Hendrix cord in the 7th position or the E of the fifth string he uses it in the fourth position or the b. Now some people play it differently and use a similar cord voicing but the reality is whether he's playing the exact courtship to Henry's used or not it's the same intervals and the way the drums work with the guitar it sounds like machine gun fire and is reminiscent or give the imagery of war is something that Hendrix did before Trower. In fact black status and Trower kind of did this at the same time but Hendrix was the guy who used the guitar in conjunction with his drummer to give the staccato machine gun sound and the sound of planes dive bombing and bombs dropping it's all in the Hendrick's catalog and nobody did it before him and nobody did it as well as he did just stating things they've already been written and having been playing guitar seriously for over 40 years now 52 and not saying I'm the best guitar player or even one of them but I've been doing this very seriously on a professional level for a long enough time to have a valid opinion. They're both awesome but you can't have Trower without Hendrix the same way you can't have that one without the Beatles and the stones and you can't have the Beatles without Elvis Presley just the Way musical genres and styling on an instrument happens to evolve. It would be no Miles Davis or John Coltrane without Charlie Parker and Louis Armstrong. That's the way it is. P too many people make everything a question of musical taste and preference which has nothing to do with the evolution of music. The complexity of music and the level of difficulty of playing music is also objective you just look at the sheet music or the tablet here and it's pretty obvious who is an absolute genius and who is an incredibly great player |
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