| KMFDM – New American Century Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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Ehhh more exactly... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century It's definitely about the state... state of our state. Or just the state of everything. |
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| ohGr – Whitevan Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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In addition to the deeper, more exact meaning I've posted above... You're also perhaps looking at the fact that the current state of the world was first set in motion by white people. Like the whole world got thrown in a White Van, it's the "white man's" vehicle that we're driving in these days. It's not like some new van with TVs and DVD players though. It's a beat up piece of shit van with duct tape all over it created in the last 1000 years or something. It's leaking unknown liquids all over the pavement, the windows are blacked out... it's that really creepy van you won't see on "Pimp My Ride." White World |
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| ohGr – Eyecandy Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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If she could answer... what are the chances she'd say "I don't know" while smiling faintly and then move on with whatever she was doing? But see, real eyecandy is more damaged sleazy than like totally gone I think. So she wouldn't say something like "money" you know. But just to reference Universal Blackness, I'd have to say to her, like the semi-crazy, white trash grandmother of one of her friends who used to, but now does something else. "My dear that is not an act of love." |
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| ohGr – Pepper Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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AHAHAHAHAHA Hey, hey...It's not "It" that needs to be fixed but actually, believe it or not... heard before, how objective? Not sure. And she had to get 100s on every single test. It's not like crying over spilled milk though, but does seem like there are more people missing than what you see on the cartons. It's like we don't know when humpty dumpty fell off that wall. Some think he was never sitting on the wall in the first place. Doesn't matter? Just can't believe that last part about not being able to put him back together again... |
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| ohGr – Whitevan Lyrics | 14 years ago |
| Color blind? See the world in black and white... Spread butter on that clock like in that one story or is it movie, not sure. But time moves so fast when your clock is gone because you ate it. Only going back in time could make the time slow down. You're like those guys in every movie, eating doughnuts in a white van parked inconspicuously on the street. And you're eating those doughnuts with headphones on listening in, listening for important info. Just listening in the van for hours on end. Inspection, doesn't pass the smell test (flaw). Need a close pin for the nose... OR HAHA it shouldn't smell so bad. | |
| ohGr – Pepper Lyrics | 14 years ago |
| Like some kid's book detective right? Or maybe I'm selling short. More like Sherlock Holmes perhaps. Always on the trail, looking for footprints, looking for info. Except the magnifying glass is a cheap toy, can't even melt ants with it. So you keep looking for clues, but the magnifying glass is skewing that vision I think. Then again, could be like person selling the original Holy Grail in some bad thrift store thinking it was just some old school cup, but come to find out... So then maybe it's not a cheap toy you have there, but a tool better than any magnifying glass. I don't believe that though, because the Holy Grail was nothing special to begin with. | |
| ohGr – Smogharp Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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Ah, this song was misspelled by the author I think. The word 'smogharp' is spelled with two a's and 'haarp' is supposed to be written in all caps. So the title should be SmogHAARP. Just a clarification. That's why spell check is so useful, you know. |
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| ohGr – Timebomb Lyrics | 14 years ago |
| Pretty compelling cigarette ad. Wonder how Indonesia feels about this. | |
| ohGr – Nitwitz Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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Belief systems are designed to serve specific intrapersonal functions. If you end up in a situation where a belief system isn't necessary to you, truth becomes less meaningful because you're only concerned with the truths of specific actions you're involved in. But critical thinking and inquisitiveness are really something to be celebrated, but when you take the easy road to pursue those interests and are bombarded with misinformation (often not deliberately), you're going to have a hard time truly getting to the bottom of anything. It's a strange world we live in where people who claim to be most connected to the concrete truth of the world are perhaps the same ones who could be hiding from it the most. Even stranger when you've been there. But so many problems... No way to solve 'em. Have to run them through your machine, change into something else more comfortable. Or just put your head in the sand. No matter what you do though, you won't be able to stare directly into this metaphorical sun for very long. Because if you do, the last meal you consume... will probably taste like gun metal. Or something to that effect. |
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| ohGr – hollow Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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Belief systems are designed to serve specific intrapersonal functions. If you end up in a situation where a belief system isn't necessary to you, truth becomes less meaningful because you're only concerned with the truths of specific actions you're involved in. But critical thinking and inquisitiveness are really something to be celebrated, but when you take the easy road to pursue those interests and are bombarded with misinformation (often not deliberately), you're going to have a hard time truly getting to the bottom of anything. It's a strange world we live in where people who claim to be most connected to the concrete truth of the world are perhaps the same ones who could be hiding from it the most. Even stranger when you've been there. But so many problems... No way to solve 'em. Have to run them through your machine, change into something else more comfortable. Or just put your head in the sand. No matter what you do though, you won't be able to stare directly into this metaphorical sun for very long. Because if you do, the last meal you consume... will probably taste like gun metal. Or something to that effect. |
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| ohGr – Crash Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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Belief systems are designed to serve specific intrapersonal functions. If you end up in a situation where a belief system isn't necessary to you, truth becomes less meaningful because you're only concerned with the truths of specific actions you're involved in. But critical thinking and inquisitiveness are really something to be celebrated, but when you take the easy road to pursue those interests and are bombarded with misinformation (often not deliberately), you're going to have a hard time truly getting to the bottom of anything. It's a strange world we live in where people who claim to be most connected to the concrete truth of the world are perhaps the same ones who could be hiding from it the most. Even stranger when you've been there. But so many problems... No way to solve 'em. Have to run them through your machine, change into something else more comfortable. Or just put your head in the sand. No matter what you do though, you won't be able to stare directly into this metaphorical sun for very long. Because if you do, the last meal you consume... will probably taste like gun metal. Or something to that effect. |
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| ohGr – Nitwitz Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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You have to wonder if the conspiracy theory type of attitude that shows its scales throughout unDeveloped is perhaps some construct designed in order to be able to accept the state of the world. Like instead of thinking up a God who is the creator of the many benign occurrences in the world, you create a Devil who is responsible for all the problems. Because if the world is controlled by the long-reaching omnipresent tentacles of this nefarious construct then working to change things becomes less of a concern. Instead, absolutely all you can possibly do is "wake up" to what's going on around you. And until everyone "wakes up" nothing can be done. So once again, you retreat into your shell where all you can possibly pay attention to is your own existence because this conspirational power is too great for you to combat alone. Other people need to wake up for change to occur. A process that involves the vague ideas of "expanding your consciousness" or "understanding the truth." That change will occur from this "awakening" alone. Or in the provocation of some large-scale civil unrest that never happens. The inaction of such people is interesting considering their views, if they hold them to be absolute truth. You'll see lone wolf type of stuff, but nothing organized that actually moves closer to doing anything positive. Of course we've seen conspiracy theories turn into genocide in the past, but you can't paint them all as being the same in terms of ideas. The more modern ideas typically don't carry any serious combined action it seems. No doubt there's evidence for organized conspiracy, but you have to question supposed truths when they carry so much weight. What's wrong with a worldview that doesn't incorporate those sorts of ideas? Difficult to justify inaction, cognitive inequities when it comes to understanding why certain events have occurred. That is, the official version that you witness is too hard to take in and it doesn't have the flow of a nice narrative, too jagged, too many things you don't fully understand and the dots are difficult to connect. Moreover, there's the idea of having access to sort of hidden knowledge, a separator for you against a massive cross-section of the population (the majority of people) who are in the dark about such issues. These heavy belief systems are extremely problematic and, I think, exist because they serve specific intrapersonal functions. But do I only suggest this because I can't accept the truth of what's really going on? And then somehow, though the faces look different and the words change position, you can't distinguish your discussion with the fundamentalist christian from your discussion with the ardent conspiracy theorist. It's like the same song, just a different verse. |
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| ohGr – hollow Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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You have to wonder if the conspiracy theory type of attitude that shows its scales throughout unDeveloped is perhaps some construct designed in order to be able to accept the state of the world. Like instead of thinking up a God who is the creator of the many benign occurrences in the world, you create a Devil who is responsible for all the problems. Because if the world is controlled by the long-reaching omnipresent tentacles of this nefarious construct then working to change things becomes less of a concern. Instead, absolutely all you can possibly do is "wake up" to what's going on around you. And until everyone "wakes up" nothing can be done. So once again, you retreat into your shell where all you can possibly pay attention to is your own existence because this conspirational power is too great for you to combat alone. Other people need to wake up for change to occur. A process that involves the vague ideas of "expanding your consciousness" or "understanding the truth." That change will occur from this "awakening" alone. Or in the provocation of some large-scale civil unrest that never happens. The inaction of such people is interesting considering their views, if they hold them to be absolute truth. You'll see lone wolf type of stuff, but nothing organized that actually moves closer to doing anything positive. Of course we've seen conspiracy theories turn into genocide in the past, but you can't paint them all as being the same in terms of ideas. The more modern ideas typically don't carry any serious combined action it seems. No doubt there's evidence for organized conspiracy, but you have to question supposed truths when they carry so much weight. What's wrong with a worldview that doesn't incorporate those sorts of ideas? Difficult to justify inaction, cognitive inequities when it comes to understanding why certain events have occurred. That is, the official version that you witness is too hard to take in and it doesn't have the flow of a nice narrative, too jagged, too many things you don't fully understand and the dots are difficult to connect. Moreover, there's the idea of having access to sort of hidden knowledge, a separator for you against a massive cross-section of the population (the majority of people) who are in the dark about such issues. These heavy belief systems are extremely problematic and, I think, exist because they serve specific intrapersonal functions. But do I only suggest this because I can't accept the truth of what's really going on? And then somehow, though the faces look different and the words change position, you can't distinguish your discussion with the fundamentalist christian from your discussion with the ardent conspiracy theorist. It's like the same song, just a different verse. |
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| ohGr – Crash Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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You have to wonder if the conspiracy theory type of attitude that shows its scales throughout unDeveloped is perhaps some construct designed in order to be able to accept the state of the world. Like instead of thinking up a God who is the creator of the many benign occurrences in the world, you create a Devil who is responsible for all the problems. Because if the world is controlled by the long-reaching omnipresent tentacles of this nefarious construct then working to change things becomes less of a concern. Instead, absolutely all you can possibly do is "wake up" to what's going on around you. And until everyone "wakes up" nothing can be done. So once again, you retreat into your shell where all you can possibly pay attention to is your own existence because this conspirational power is too great for you to combat alone. Other people need to wake up for change to occur. A process that involves the vague ideas of "expanding your consciousness" or "understanding the truth." That change will occur from this "awakening" alone. Or in the provocation of some large-scale civil unrest that never happens. The inaction of such people is interesting considering their views, if they hold them to be absolute truth. You'll see lone wolf type of stuff, but nothing organized that actually moves closer to doing anything positive. Of course we've seen conspiracy theories turn into genocide in the past, but you can't paint them all as being the same in terms of ideas. The more modern ideas typically don't carry any serious combined action it seems. No doubt there's evidence for organized conspiracy, but you have to question supposed truths when they carry so much weight. What's wrong with a worldview that doesn't incorporate those sorts of ideas? Difficult to justify inaction, cognitive inequities when it comes to understanding why certain events have occurred. That is, the official version that you witness is too hard to take in and it doesn't have the flow of a nice narrative, too jagged, too many things you don't fully understand and the dots are difficult to connect. Moreover, there's the idea of having access to sort of hidden knowledge, a separator for you against a massive cross-section of the population (the majority of people) who are in the dark about such issues. These heavy belief systems are extremely problematic and, I think, exist because they serve specific intrapersonal functions. But do I only suggest this because I can't accept the truth of what's really going on? And then somehow, though the faces look different and the words change position, you can't distinguish your discussion with the fundamentalist christian from your discussion with the ardent conspiracy theorist. It's like the same song, just a different verse. |
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| ohGr – Screw Me Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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You have to wonder if the conspiracy theory type of attitude that shows its scales throughout unDeveloped is perhaps some construct designed in order to be able to accept the state of the world. Like instead of thinking up a God who is the creator of the many benign occurrences in the world, you create a Devil who is responsible for all the problems. Because if the world is controlled by the long-reaching omnipresent tentacles of this nefarious construct then working to change things becomes less of a concern. Instead, absolutely all you can possibly do is "wake up" to what's going on around you. And until everyone "wakes up" nothing can be done. So once again, you retreat into your shell where all you can possibly pay attention to is your own existence because this conspirational power is too great for you to combat alone. Other people need to wake up for change to occur. A process that involves the vague ideas of "expanding your consciousness" or "understanding the truth." That change will occur from this "awakening" alone. Or in the provocation of some large-scale civil unrest that never happens. The inaction of such people is interesting considering their views, if they hold them to be absolute truth. You'll see lone wolf type of stuff, but nothing organized that actually moves closer to doing anything positive. Of course we've seen conspiracy theories turn into genocide in the past, but you can't paint them all as being the same in terms of ideas. The more modern ideas typically don't carry any serious combined action it seems. No doubt there's evidence for organized conspiracy, but you have to question supposed truths when they carry so much weight. What's wrong with a worldview that doesn't incorporate those sorts of ideas? Difficult to justify inaction, cognitive inequities when it comes to understanding why certain events have occurred. That is, the official version that you witness is too hard to take in and it doesn't have the flow of a nice narrative, too jagged, too many things you don't fully understand and the dots are difficult to connect. Moreover, there's the idea of having access to sort of hidden knowledge, a separator for you against a massive cross-section of the population (the majority of people) who are in the dark about such issues. These heavy belief systems are extremely problematic and, I think, exist because they serve specific intrapersonal functions. But do I only suggest this because I can't accept the truth of what's really going on? And then somehow, though the faces look different and the words change position, you can't distinguish your discussion with the fundamentalist christian from your discussion with the ardent conspiracy theorist. It's like the same song, just a different verse. Belief systems are designed to serve specific intrapersonal functions. If you end up in a situation where a belief system isn't necessary to you, truth becomes less meaningful because you're only concerned with the truths of specific actions you're involved in. But critical thinking and inquisitiveness are really something to be celebrated, but when you take the easy road to pursue those interests and are bombarded with misinformation (often not deliberately), you're going to have a hard time truly getting to the bottom of anything. It's a strange world we live in where people who claim to be most connected to the concrete truth of the world are perhaps the same ones who could be hiding from it the most. Even stranger when you've been there. But so many problems... No way to solve 'em. Have to run them through your machine, change into something else more comfortable. Or just put your head in the sand. No matter what you do though, you won't be able to stare directly into this metaphorical sun for very long. Because if you do, the last meal you consume... will probably taste like gun metal. Or something to that effect. |
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| ohGr – tragek Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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You have to wonder if the conspiracy theory type of attitude that shows its scales throughout unDeveloped is perhaps some construct designed in order to be able to accept the state of the world. Like instead of thinking up a God who is the creator of the many benign occurrences in the world, you create a Devil who is responsible for all the problems. Because if the world is controlled by the long-reaching omnipresent tentacles of this nefarious construct then working to change things becomes less of a concern. Instead, absolutely all you can possibly do is "wake up" to what's going on around you. And until everyone "wakes up" nothing can be done. So once again, you retreat into your shell where all you can possibly pay attention to is your own existence because this conspirational power is too great for you to combat alone. Other people need to wake up for change to occur. A process that involves the vague ideas of "expanding your consciousness" or "understanding the truth." That change will occur from this "awakening" alone. Or in the provocation of some large-scale civil unrest that never happens. The inaction of such people is interesting considering their views, if they hold them to be absolute truth. You'll see lone wolf type of stuff, but nothing organized that actually moves closer to doing anything positive. Of course we've seen conspiracy theories turn into genocide in the past, but you can't paint them all as being the same in terms of ideas. The more modern ideas typically don't carry any serious combined action it seems. No doubt there's evidence for organized conspiracy, but you have to question supposed truths when they carry so much weight. What's wrong with a worldview that doesn't incorporate those sorts of ideas? Difficult to justify inaction, cognitive inequities when it comes to understanding why certain events have occurred. That is, the official version that you witness is too hard to take in and it doesn't have the flow of a nice narrative, too jagged, too many things you don't fully understand and the dots are difficult to connect. Moreover, there's the idea of having access to sort of hidden knowledge, a separator for you against a massive cross-section of the population (the majority of people) who are in the dark about such issues. These heavy belief systems are extremely problematic and, I think, exist because they serve specific intrapersonal functions. But do I only suggest this because I can't accept the truth of what's really going on? And then somehow, though the faces look different and the words change position, you can't distinguish your discussion with the fundamentalist christian from your discussion with the ardent conspiracy theorist. It's like the same song, just a different verse. Belief systems are designed to serve specific intrapersonal functions. If you end up in a situation where a belief system isn't necessary to you, truth becomes less meaningful because you're only concerned with the truths of specific actions you're involved in. But critical thinking and inquisitiveness are really something to be celebrated, but when you take the easy road to pursue those interests and are bombarded with misinformation (often not deliberately), you're going to have a hard time truly getting to the bottom of anything. It's a strange world we live in where people who claim to be most connected to the concrete truth of the world are perhaps the same ones who could be hiding from it the most. Even stranger when you've been there. But so many problems... No way to solve 'em. Have to run them through your machine, change into something else more comfortable. Or just put your head in the sand. No matter what you do though, you won't be able to stare directly into this metaphorical sun for very long. Because if you do, the last meal you consume... will probably taste like gun metal. Or something to that effect. |
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| ohGr – Comedown Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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You have to wonder if the conspiracy theory type of attitude that shows its scales throughout unDeveloped is perhaps some construct designed in order to be able to accept the state of the world. Like instead of thinking up a God who is the creator of the many benign occurrences in the world, you create a Devil who is responsible for all the problems. Because if the world is controlled by the long-reaching omnipresent tentacles of this nefarious construct then working to change things becomes less of a concern. Instead, absolutely all you can possibly do is "wake up" to what's going on around you. And until everyone "wakes up" nothing can be done. So once again, you retreat into your shell where all you can possibly pay attention to is your own existence because this conspirational power is too great for you to combat alone. Other people need to wake up for change to occur. A process that involves the vague ideas of "expanding your consciousness" or "understanding the truth." That change will occur from this "awakening" alone. Or in the provocation of some large-scale civil unrest that never happens. The inaction of such people is interesting considering their views, if they hold them to be absolute truth. You'll see lone wolf type of stuff, but nothing organized that actually moves closer to doing anything positive. Of course we've seen conspiracy theories turn into genocide in the past, but you can't paint them all as being the same in terms of ideas. The more modern ideas typically don't carry any serious combined action it seems. No doubt there's evidence for organized conspiracy, but you have to question supposed truths when they carry so much weight. What's wrong with a worldview that doesn't incorporate those sorts of ideas? Difficult to justify inaction, cognitive inequities when it comes to understanding why certain events have occurred. That is, the official version that you witness is too hard to take in and it doesn't have the flow of a nice narrative, too jagged, too many things you don't fully understand and the dots are difficult to connect. Moreover, there's the idea of having access to sort of hidden knowledge, a separator for you against a massive cross-section of the population (the majority of people) who are in the dark about such issues. These heavy belief systems are extremely problematic and, I think, exist because they serve specific intrapersonal functions. But do I only suggest this because I can't accept the truth of what's really going on? And then somehow, though the faces look different and the words change position, you can't distinguish your discussion with the fundamentalist christian from your discussion with the ardent conspiracy theorist. It's like the same song, just a different verse. Belief systems are designed to serve specific intrapersonal functions. If you end up in a situation where a belief system isn't necessary to you, truth becomes less meaningful because you're only concerned with the truths of specific actions you're involved in. But critical thinking and inquisitiveness are really something to be celebrated, but when you take the easy road to pursue those interests and are bombarded with misinformation (often not deliberately), you're going to have a hard time truly getting to the bottom of anything. It's a strange world we live in where people who claim to be most connected to the concrete truth of the world are perhaps the same ones who could be hiding from it the most. Even stranger when you've been there. But so many problems... No way to solve 'em. Have to run them through your machine, change into something else more comfortable. Or just put your head in the sand. No matter what you do though, you won't be able to stare directly into this metaphorical sun for very long. Because if you do, the last meal you consume... will probably taste like gun metal. Or something to that effect. |
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| ohGr – Collidoskope Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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You have to wonder if the conspiracy theory type of attitude that shows its scales throughout unDeveloped is perhaps some construct designed in order to be able to accept the state of the world. Like instead of thinking up a God who is the creator of the many benign occurrences in the world, you create a Devil who is responsible for all the problems. Because if the world is controlled by the long-reaching omnipresent tentacles of this nefarious construct then working to change things becomes less of a concern. Instead, absolutely all you can possibly do is "wake up" to what's going on around you. And until everyone "wakes up" nothing can be done. So once again, you retreat into your shell where all you can possibly pay attention to is your own existence because this conspirational power is too great for you to combat alone. Other people need to wake up for change to occur. A process that involves the vague ideas of "expanding your consciousness" or "understanding the truth." That change will occur from this "awakening" alone. Or in the provocation of some large-scale civil unrest that never happens. The inaction of such people is interesting considering their views, if they hold them to be absolute truth. You'll see lone wolf type of stuff, but nothing organized that actually moves closer to doing anything positive. Of course we've seen conspiracy theories turn into genocide in the past, but you can't paint them all as being the same in terms of ideas. The more modern ideas typically don't carry any serious combined action it seems. No doubt there's evidence for organized conspiracy, but you have to question supposed truths when they carry so much weight. What's wrong with a worldview that doesn't incorporate those sorts of ideas? Difficult to justify inaction, cognitive inequities when it comes to understanding why certain events have occurred. That is, the official version that you witness is too hard to take in and it doesn't have the flow of a nice narrative, too jagged, too many things you don't fully understand and the dots are difficult to connect. Moreover, there's the idea of having access to sort of hidden knowledge, a separator for you against a massive cross-section of the population (the majority of people) who are in the dark about such issues. These heavy belief systems are extremely problematic and, I think, exist because they serve specific intrapersonal functions. But do I only suggest this because I can't accept the truth of what's really going on? And then somehow, though the faces look different and the words change position, you can't distinguish your discussion with the fundamentalist christian from your discussion with the ardent conspiracy theorist. It's like the same song, just a different verse. Belief systems are designed to serve specific intrapersonal functions. If you end up in a situation where a belief system isn't necessary to you, truth becomes less meaningful because you're only concerned with the truths of specific actions you're involved in. But critical thinking and inquisitiveness are really something to be celebrated, but when you take the easy road to pursue those interests and are bombarded with misinformation (often not deliberately), you're going to have a hard time truly getting to the bottom of anything. It's a strange world we live in where people who claim to be most connected to the concrete truth of the world are perhaps the same ones who could be hiding from it the most. Even stranger when you've been there. But so many problems... No way to solve 'em. Have to run them through your machine, change into something else more comfortable. Or just put your head in the sand. No matter what you do though, you won't be able to stare directly into this metaphorical sun for very long. Because if you do, the last meal you consume... will probably taste like gun metal. Or something to that effect. |
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| ohGr – Animist Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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You have to wonder if the conspiracy theory type of attitude that shows its scales throughout unDeveloped is perhaps some construct designed in order to be able to accept the state of the world. Like instead of thinking up a God who is the creator of the many benign occurrences in the world, you create a Devil who is responsible for all the problems. Because if the world is controlled by the long-reaching omnipresent tentacles of this nefarious construct then working to change things becomes less of a concern. Instead, absolutely all you can possibly do is "wake up" to what's going on around you. And until everyone "wakes up" nothing can be done. So once again, you retreat into your shell where all you can possibly pay attention to is your own existence because this conspirational power is too great for you to combat alone. Other people need to wake up for change to occur. A process that involves the vague ideas of "expanding your consciousness" or "understanding the truth." That change will occur from this "awakening" alone. Or in the provocation of some large-scale civil unrest that never happens. The inaction of such people is interesting considering their views, if they hold them to be absolute truth. You'll see lone wolf type of stuff, but nothing organized that actually moves closer to doing anything positive. Of course we've seen conspiracy theories turn into genocide in the past, but you can't paint them all as being the same in terms of ideas. The more modern ideas typically don't carry any serious combined action it seems. No doubt there's evidence for organized conspiracy, but you have to question supposed truths when they carry so much weight. What's wrong with a worldview that doesn't incorporate those sorts of ideas? Difficult to justify inaction, cognitive inequities when it comes to understanding why certain events have occurred. That is, the official version that you witness is too hard to take in and it doesn't have the flow of a nice narrative, too jagged, too many things you don't fully understand and the dots are difficult to connect. Moreover, there's the idea of having access to sort of hidden knowledge, a separator for you against a massive cross-section of the population (the majority of people) who are in the dark about such issues. These heavy belief systems are extremely problematic and, I think, exist because they serve specific intrapersonal functions. But do I only suggest this because I can't accept the truth of what's really going on? And then somehow, though the faces look different and the words change position, you can't distinguish your discussion with the fundamentalist christian from your discussion with the ardent conspiracy theorist. It's like the same song, just a different verse. Belief systems are designed to serve specific intrapersonal functions. If you end up in a situation where a belief system isn't necessary to you, truth becomes less meaningful because you're only concerned with the truths of specific actions you're involved in. But critical thinking and inquisitiveness are really something to be celebrated, but when you take the easy road to pursue those interests and are bombarded with misinformation (often not deliberately), you're going to have a hard time truly getting to the bottom of anything. It's a strange world we live in where people who claim to be most connected to the concrete truth of the world are perhaps the same ones who could be hiding from it the most. Even stranger when you've been there. But so many problems... No way to solve 'em. Have to run them through your machine, change into something else more comfortable. Or just put your head in the sand. No matter what you do though, you won't be able to stare directly into this metaphorical sun for very long. Because if you do, the last meal you consume... will probably taste like gun metal. Or something to that effect. |
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| ohGr – 101 Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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You have to wonder if the conspiracy theory type of attitude that shows its scales throughout unDeveloped is perhaps some construct designed in order to be able to accept the state of the world. Like instead of thinking up a God who is the creator of the many benign occurrences in the world, you create a Devil who is responsible for all the problems. Because if the world is controlled by the long-reaching omnipresent tentacles of this nefarious construct then working to change things becomes less of a concern. Instead, absolutely all you can possibly do is "wake up" to what's going on around you. And until everyone "wakes up" nothing can be done. So once again, you retreat into your shell where all you can possibly pay attention to is your own existence because this conspirational power is too great for you to combat alone. Other people need to wake up for change to occur. A process that involves the vague ideas of "expanding your consciousness" or "understanding the truth." That change will occur from this "awakening" alone. Or in the provocation of some large-scale civil unrest that never happens. The inaction of such people is interesting considering their views, if they hold them to be absolute truth. You'll see lone wolf type of stuff, but nothing organized that actually moves closer to doing anything positive. Of course we've seen conspiracy theories turn into genocide in the past, but you can't paint them all as being the same in terms of ideas. The more modern ideas typically don't carry any serious combined action it seems. No doubt there's evidence for organized conspiracy, but you have to question supposed truths when they carry so much weight. What's wrong with a worldview that doesn't incorporate those sorts of ideas? Difficult to justify inaction, cognitive inequities when it comes to understanding why certain events have occurred. That is, the official version that you witness is too hard to take in and it doesn't have the flow of a nice narrative, too jagged, too many things you don't fully understand and the dots are difficult to connect. Moreover, there's the idea of having access to sort of hidden knowledge, a separator for you against a massive cross-section of the population (the majority of people) who are in the dark about such issues. These heavy belief systems are extremely problematic and, I think, exist because they serve specific intrapersonal functions. But do I only suggest this because I can't accept the truth of what's really going on? And then somehow, though the faces look different and the words change position, you can't distinguish your discussion with the fundamentalist christian from your discussion with the ardent conspiracy theorist. It's like the same song, just a different verse. Belief systems are designed to serve specific intrapersonal functions. If you end up in a situation where a belief system isn't necessary to you, truth becomes less meaningful because you're only concerned with the truths of specific actions you're involved in. But critical thinking and inquisitiveness are really something to be celebrated, but when you take the easy road to pursue those interests and are bombarded with misinformation (often not deliberately), you're going to have a hard time truly getting to the bottom of anything. It's a strange world we live in where people who claim to be most connected to the concrete truth of the world are perhaps the same ones who could be hiding from it the most. Even stranger when you've been there. But so many problems... No way to solve 'em. Have to run them through your machine, change into something else more comfortable. Or just put your head in the sand. No matter what you do though, you won't be able to stare directly into this metaphorical sun for very long. Because if you do, the last meal you consume... will probably taste like gun metal. Or something to that effect. |
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| ohGr – Crash Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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In the end, if you take nothing else from unDeveloped, maybe the most important thing is the idea of misinformation. For the type of person who is deeply concerned with congruence in the world, the type of person who seeks out some sort of truth to stand on in order to understand existence, this misinformation can be very problematic. And it's the fact that it's difficult, sometimes impossible to use science to inquire into the hidden intentions or meanings of other people's actions. Even more difficult is when groups of people are piled up into institutions and you attempt to reach firm conclusions about those situations. Then imagine how that difficulty can be magnified even further when you're examining these situations from your living room and on top of that you have a pretty weak basic education you're relying on. So you're deeply concerned with finding the truth, but the truth you're looking for is perhaps impossible to determine and you're looking for it from a poor vantage point (making it even harder to determine). But misinformation flows in both directions. On one hand, maybe you can't accept the "Official Version" that is presented to you. And on the other hand, the "Official Version" has been altered and obscured because it's assumed that you can't accept it. Or more specially, everyone obscures the truth in their heads, almost subconsciously, before they disseminate it to the outside world. There's a difference between a person searching for social truths from their couch and a person measuring the natural world using science. But one is so much more boring than the other, and seems so much less pertinent, right? And so people approximate the truth as best they can from their position in the world, and alter the "Official Version" as much as they have to in order to feel OK about it from both the dissemination angle and the acceptance one. So misinformation just keeps piling up, just piles of shit that keep growing and distorting reality. The Internet is a good example, obviously. And from both ends, in many cases, the people who put forth this false information think they are doing someone a great service, they think they're protecting something or promoting something. But it's all just bullshit. It's not the case that truth doesn't exist either, that you can't possibly trust any information. It's just that, with the gross excess of misinformation, you grow distrusting of any information you're presented with which is problematic. Finally... Beware of those who claim to possess ultimate truths about the world. But also beware of those who question the ground they walk on. And it's not that you should stop crying about all the poor decisions seen, just have to stay away from the alliance between that and your insides. Also knowing that it's not necessary to devise a thesis of everything and make constant connections between all situations. You're most likely stumbling in the dark anyways. |
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| ohGr – hollow Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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In the end, if you take nothing else from unDeveloped, maybe the most important thing is the idea of misinformation. For the type of person who is deeply concerned with congruence in the world, the type of person who seeks out some sort of truth to stand on in order to understand existence, this misinformation can be very problematic. And it's the fact that it's difficult, sometimes impossible to use science to inquire into the hidden intentions or meanings of other people's actions. Even more difficult is when groups of people are piled up into institutions and you attempt to reach firm conclusions about those situations. Then imagine how that difficulty can be magnified even further when you're examining these situations from your living room and on top of that you have a pretty weak basic education you're relying on. So you're deeply concerned with finding the truth, but the truth you're looking for is perhaps impossible to determine and you're looking for it from a poor vantage point (making it even harder to determine). But misinformation flows in both directions. On one hand, maybe you can't accept the "Official Version" that is presented to you. And on the other hand, the "Official Version" has been altered and obscured because it's assumed that you can't accept it. Or more specially, everyone obscures the truth in their heads, almost subconsciously, before they disseminate it to the outside world. There's a difference between a person searching for social truths from their couch and a person measuring the natural world using science. But one is so much more boring than the other, and seems so much less pertinent, right? And so people approximate the truth as best they can from their position in the world, and alter the "Official Version" as much as they have to in order to feel OK about it from both the dissemination angle and the acceptance one. So misinformation just keeps piling up, just piles of shit that keep growing and distorting reality. The Internet is a good example, obviously. And from both ends, in many cases, the people who put forth this false information think they are doing someone a great service, they think they're protecting something or promoting something. But it's all just bullshit. It's not the case that truth doesn't exist either, that you can't possibly trust any information. It's just that, with the gross excess of misinformation, you grow distrusting of any information you're presented with which is problematic. Finally... Beware of those who claim to possess ultimate truths about the world. But also beware of those who question the ground they walk on. And it's not that you should stop crying about all the poor decisions seen, just have to stay away from the alliance between that and your insides. Also knowing that it's not necessary to devise a thesis of everything and make constant connections between all situations. You're most likely stumbling in the dark anyways. |
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| ohGr – Nitwitz Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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In the end, if you take nothing else from unDeveloped, maybe the most important thing is the idea of misinformation. For the type of person who is deeply concerned with congruence in the world, the type of person who seeks out some sort of truth to stand on in order to understand existence, this misinformation can be very problematic. And it's the fact that it's difficult, sometimes impossible to use science to inquire into the hidden intentions or meanings of other people's actions. Even more difficult is when groups of people are piled up into institutions and you attempt to reach firm conclusions about those situations. Then imagine how that difficulty can be magnified even further when you're examining these situations from your living room and on top of that you have a pretty weak basic education you're relying on. So you're deeply concerned with finding the truth, but the truth you're looking for is perhaps impossible to determine and you're looking for it from a poor vantage point (making it even harder to determine). But misinformation flows in both directions. On one hand, maybe you can't accept the "Official Version" that is presented to you. And on the other hand, the "Official Version" has been altered and obscured because it's assumed that you can't accept it. Or more specially, everyone obscures the truth in their heads, almost subconsciously, before they disseminate it to the outside world. There's a difference between a person searching for social truths from their couch and a person measuring the natural world using science. But one is so much more boring than the other, and seems so much less pertinent, right? And so people approximate the truth as best they can from their position in the world, and alter the "Official Version" as much as they have to in order to feel OK about it from both the dissemination angle and the acceptance one. So misinformation just keeps piling up, just piles of shit that keep growing and distorting reality. The Internet is a good example, obviously. And from both ends, in many cases, the people who put forth this false information think they are doing someone a great service, they think they're protecting something or promoting something. But it's all just bullshit. It's not the case that truth doesn't exist either, that you can't possibly trust any information. It's just that, with the gross excess of misinformation, you grow distrusting of any information you're presented with which is problematic. Finally... Beware of those who claim to possess ultimate truths about the world. But also beware of those who question the ground they walk on. And it's not that you should stop crying about all the poor decisions seen, just have to stay away from the alliance between that and your insides. Also knowing that it's not necessary to devise a thesis of everything and make constant connections between all situations. You're most likely stumbling in the dark anyways. |
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| ohGr – Screw Me Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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In the end, if you take nothing else from unDeveloped, maybe the most important thing is the idea of misinformation. For the type of person who is deeply concerned with congruence in the world, the type of person who seeks out some sort of truth to stand on in order to understand existence, this misinformation can be very problematic. And it's the fact that it's difficult, sometimes impossible to use science to inquire into the hidden intentions or meanings of other people's actions. Even more difficult is when groups of people are piled up into institutions and you attempt to reach firm conclusions about those situations. Then imagine how that difficulty can be magnified even further when you're examining these situations from your living room and on top of that you have a pretty weak basic education you're relying on. So you're deeply concerned with finding the truth, but the truth you're looking for is perhaps impossible to determine and you're looking for it from a poor vantage point (making it even harder to determine). But misinformation flows in both directions. On one hand, maybe you can't accept the "Official Version" that is presented to you. And on the other hand, the "Official Version" has been altered and obscured because it's assumed that you can't accept it. Or more specially, everyone obscures the truth in their heads, almost subconsciously, before they disseminate it to the outside world. There's a difference between a person searching for social truths from their couch and a person measuring the natural world using science. But one is so much more boring than the other, and seems so much less pertinent, right? And so people approximate the truth as best they can from their position in the world, and alter the "Official Version" as much as they have to in order to feel OK about it from both the dissemination angle and the acceptance one. So misinformation just keeps piling up, just piles of shit that keep growing and distorting reality. The Internet is a good example, obviously. And from both ends, in many cases, the people who put forth this false information think they are doing someone a great service, they think they're protecting something or promoting something. But it's all just bullshit. It's not the case that truth doesn't exist either, that you can't possibly trust any information. It's just that, with the gross excess of misinformation, you grow distrusting of any information you're presented with which is problematic. Finally... Beware of those who claim to possess ultimate truths about the world. But also beware of those who question the ground they walk on. And it's not that you should stop crying about all the poor decisions seen, just have to stay away from the alliance between that and your insides. Also knowing that it's not necessary to devise a thesis of everything and make constant connections between all situations. You're most likely stumbling in the dark anyways. |
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| ohGr – tragek Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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In the end, if you take nothing else from unDeveloped, maybe the most important thing is the idea of misinformation. For the type of person who is deeply concerned with congruence in the world, the type of person who seeks out some sort of truth to stand on in order to understand existence, this misinformation can be very problematic. And it's the fact that it's difficult, sometimes impossible to use science to inquire into the hidden intentions or meanings of other people's actions. Even more difficult is when groups of people are piled up into institutions and you attempt to reach firm conclusions about those situations. Then imagine how that difficulty can be magnified even further when you're examining these situations from your living room and on top of that you have a pretty weak basic education you're relying on. So you're deeply concerned with finding the truth, but the truth you're looking for is perhaps impossible to determine and you're looking for it from a poor vantage point (making it even harder to determine). But misinformation flows in both directions. On one hand, maybe you can't accept the "Official Version" that is presented to you. And on the other hand, the "Official Version" has been altered and obscured because it's assumed that you can't accept it. Or more specially, everyone obscures the truth in their heads, almost subconsciously, before they disseminate it to the outside world. There's a difference between a person searching for social truths from their couch and a person measuring the natural world using science. But one is so much more boring than the other, and seems so much less pertinent, right? And so people approximate the truth as best they can from their position in the world, and alter the "Official Version" as much as they have to in order to feel OK about it from both the dissemination angle and the acceptance one. So misinformation just keeps piling up, just piles of shit that keep growing and distorting reality. The Internet is a good example, obviously. And from both ends, in many cases, the people who put forth this false information think they are doing someone a great service, they think they're protecting something or promoting something. But it's all just bullshit. It's not the case that truth doesn't exist either, that you can't possibly trust any information. It's just that, with the gross excess of misinformation, you grow distrusting of any information you're presented with which is problematic. Finally... Beware of those who claim to possess ultimate truths about the world. But also beware of those who question the ground they walk on. And it's not that you should stop crying about all the poor decisions seen, just have to stay away from the alliance between that and your insides. Also knowing that it's not necessary to devise a thesis of everything and make constant connections between all situations. You're most likely stumbling in the dark anyways. |
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| ohGr – Collidoskope Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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In the end, if you take nothing else from unDeveloped, maybe the most important thing is the idea of misinformation. For the type of person who is deeply concerned with congruence in the world, the type of person who seeks out some sort of truth to stand on in order to understand existence, this misinformation can be very problematic. And it's the fact that it's difficult, sometimes impossible to use science to inquire into the hidden intentions or meanings of other people's actions. Even more difficult is when groups of people are piled up into institutions and you attempt to reach firm conclusions about those situations. Then imagine how that difficulty can be magnified even further when you're examining these situations from your living room and on top of that you have a pretty weak basic education you're relying on. So you're deeply concerned with finding the truth, but the truth you're looking for is perhaps impossible to determine and you're looking for it from a poor vantage point (making it even harder to determine). But misinformation flows in both directions. On one hand, maybe you can't accept the "Official Version" that is presented to you. And on the other hand, the "Official Version" has been altered and obscured because it's assumed that you can't accept it. Or more specially, everyone obscures the truth in their heads, almost subconsciously, before they disseminate it to the outside world. There's a difference between a person searching for social truths from their couch and a person measuring the natural world using science. But one is so much more boring than the other, and seems so much less pertinent, right? And so people approximate the truth as best they can from their position in the world, and alter the "Official Version" as much as they have to in order to feel OK about it from both the dissemination angle and the acceptance one. So misinformation just keeps piling up, just piles of shit that keep growing and distorting reality. The Internet is a good example, obviously. And from both ends, in many cases, the people who put forth this false information think they are doing someone a great service, they think they're protecting something or promoting something. But it's all just bullshit. It's not the case that truth doesn't exist either, that you can't possibly trust any information. It's just that, with the gross excess of misinformation, you grow distrusting of any information you're presented with which is problematic. Finally... Beware of those who claim to possess ultimate truths about the world. But also beware of those who question the ground they walk on. And it's not that you should stop crying about all the poor decisions seen, just have to stay away from the alliance between that and your insides. Also knowing that it's not necessary to devise a thesis of everything and make constant connections between all situations. You're most likely stumbling in the dark anyways. |
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| ohGr – 101 Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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In the end, if you take nothing else from unDeveloped, maybe the most important thing is the idea of misinformation. For the type of person who is deeply concerned with congruence in the world, the type of person who seeks out some sort of truth to stand on in order to understand existence, this misinformation can be very problematic. And it's the fact that it's difficult, sometimes impossible to use science to inquire into the hidden intentions or meanings of other people's actions. Even more difficult is when groups of people are piled up into institutions and you attempt to reach firm conclusions about those situations. Then imagine how that difficulty can be magnified even further when you're examining these situations from your living room and on top of that you have a pretty weak basic education you're relying on. So you're deeply concerned with finding the truth, but the truth you're looking for is perhaps impossible to determine and you're looking for it from a poor vantage point (making it even harder to determine). But misinformation flows in both directions. On one hand, maybe you can't accept the "Official Version" that is presented to you. And on the other hand, the "Official Version" has been altered and obscured because it's assumed that you can't accept it. Or more specially, everyone obscures the truth in their heads, almost subconsciously, before they disseminate it to the outside world. There's a difference between a person searching for social truths from their couch and a person measuring the natural world using science. But one is so much more boring than the other, and seems so much less pertinent, right? And so people approximate the truth as best they can from their position in the world, and alter the "Official Version" as much as they have to in order to feel OK about it from both the dissemination angle and the acceptance one. So misinformation just keeps piling up, just piles of shit that keep growing and distorting reality. The Internet is a good example, obviously. And from both ends, in many cases, the people who put forth this false information think they are doing someone a great service, they think they're protecting something or promoting something. But it's all just bullshit. It's not the case that truth doesn't exist either, that you can't possibly trust any information. It's just that, with the gross excess of misinformation, you grow distrusting of any information you're presented with which is problematic. Finally... Beware of those who claim to possess ultimate truths about the world. But also beware of those who question the ground they walk on. And it's not that you should stop crying about all the poor decisions seen, just have to stay away from the alliance between that and your insides. Also knowing that it's not necessary to devise a thesis of everything and make constant connections between all situations. You're most likely stumbling in the dark anyways. |
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| ohGr – Animist Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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*This is more a comment on unDeveloped as a whole rather than this particular song, but it does contain some references to Animist* Born into an unforgiving world, particularly in America. From Day 1 the pace of life is too fast, there's a sea of entertainment that can be damaging that people are often not protected from, information from all corners, poor social services, a host of societal problems that aren't easily fixed... just so many traps one has to avoid in order to live a good life. And usually these problems work their way into individual lives and create havoc, some worse than others. So throughout your whole childhood exposure to such problems can leave you unDeveloped psychologically. By the time you're an adult you're already in a rough spot, already in a hole. And from this disadvantaged point, this unDeveloped state, you have to move through the rest of life. One such example of a problem one would face from the very beginning is growing up in an environment where you're indoctrinated with religion and denied access to knowledge that individuals in the past painstakingly spent their lives working toward. So you're like 18 years old and you've been fed a heavy diet of these religious ideas your whole life and have no desire for critical thought, like a salmon or something. And so people are unDeveloped and they perpetuate these systemic problems because their psychological state was sort of fucked from the start maybe. Again, born into a world that compromises them from the beginning. Then you look at how to solve the societal problems that put people in these positions from a young age. But it's like a snake eating itself. If you try to put in regulations that attempt to control behavior and make things better, eventually, if you take it far enough, you'll hurt our economy which only continues these societal issues. This is because you're trying to control negative behaviors that people make massive amounts of money from (all over the world). I guess outsourcing societal problems is more appropriate? But if you start stripping away regulations like this, then there's no help for people who accidently make poor decisions or end up in bad situations from a young age. Instead, there's no guidance, structure or assistance and your problems are your own to solve. If you make mistakes it's your fault because it's too dangerous to develop social services that help you. So when everything's based around money you're in the stomach of a snake that's eating itself to an extent because too much freedom or too many regulations runs you into the ground. Best thing you can do if money is still going to exist is keep the system somewhere in the middle perhaps, in awful mediocrity, and focus on changing people's minds within the system instead of changing the system itself. But... for every person who makes a positive change in their life, there's another who is forced down the wrong path by this unforgiving environment. Individually you may find a way to escape the wreckage of this system eventually or avoid it totally if you're extremely lucky, but that's clearly not what happens for so many. All you can do is hope incremental changes stick I suppose and people's thought processes will change at some point, some way. But I'm not sure that's the conclusion that the author came to in making unDeveloped. It's like with eating fast food. That type of food causes so many problems in America particularly. But so many people rely on that industry for employment. Maybe overall it's bad for the economy because of the health costs but in theory it would be good for the economy for fast food chains to exist and it's up to the individual to make the right choice. But even if you convince one individual to eat differently, at least minimizing their consumption of such food, there's another young person with no money forced to eat that way. And does the government come in and tell McDonald's what they can and can't sell to consumers? That would hurt the economy and probably end up killing jobs as people would eat there less because it would be less addictive. But they would just spend money in other sectors right? And so jobs would adjust from one area to another. But if the food is less addicting they'll consume fewer calories, giving companies less money, but I guess that's less healthcare costs later on? But fewer healthcare jobs? A poor analysis, but it does seem like things just go back and forth like this but we've heard it all before. Have to keep the prison system alive because it creates jobs and helps the economy, etc etc same old story. So bad shit stays in this system because it's seemingly financially lucrative and so the problems perpetuate themselves. Society is just feeding on itself. |
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| ohGr – Collidoskope Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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I'll also put forth the following idea... That your brain chemistry and general biology essentially dictate what you can and can't do in the world. Like if you want to maintain certain mood states and a certain quality of life you have to adhere to basic rules of life. Just an obvious recognition of the limits that each person is under in this reality. Limits created by the biology of your brain specifically. Perhaps a biology that will be seriously altered in the future or attached to machines in order to escape such limitations. I think these limitations are relevant to some of the ideas proposed with unDeveloped. Maybe when you defy such limitations without a real means to escape them you create problems for yourself that would otherwise not be there had you just played by the rules that your brain has set for you. If you try to step outside of these personal rules set by biology bad things happen eventually. Like for every drug high you have to come down. And if you didn't, the high would be meaningless and wouldn't feel the same. Because your brain is going to dictate how those drugs work... how they effect you. I think this idea just corresponds to one general interpretation of the "game" that plays itself out in 3-D visions of life. |
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| ohGr – Bellew Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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To be sure though... Ideas like these and this bear the marks of the state from which they come. And personally I'm not so sure that having an inflamed brain brings one closer to the truth than experiencing the feelings over thoughts (but that comes later I suppose, and I don't mean it as "the blue"). Perhaps thinking is as much a problem as not thinking? Drugs/Meditation aren't the "evening" referred to here maybe. More so about changing of thought processes, like psychotherapy. As in a person who has this more negative world view is encouraged through CBT or other psychotherapy to change thought processes or counterproductive behaviors. Because that's really when you would "even" everything using thoughts. This sort of changing of thought processes is deemed less true by our author and therefore is problematic. Other two things are different, particularly the second. So you try to feel better without doing the work to alter these thought processes? "Reducing darkened forces, from a naked view?" I'd say it's those mental impulses/feelings, those originators of behaviors/ideas within the brain that create these darkened forces (definitely not psycho-dynamic past shit though, to not confuse). They perhaps exist before the thoughts do (thoughts like these lyrics). And I guess the idea is that if you change the thoughts, the brain state follows? A bit backwards. But that's what psychotherapy says, goes both ways. Like if you feel bad and start smiling you'll begin to feel better just because you have a smile plastered on your face? Not sure. Their's is more legit of course. Hard to say what's true when you're the only one who can interpret it for you. Has to go through you. And like I said, maybe thought itself has to largely go away (or at least quiet down) for some people to escape "the blue." Just electricity in the brain? After all, "thinking positive" was seemingly rejected by our author... didn't take. Can't be the only one. Seemed too much like plastered smile beauty queen idea? Not sure I'd try to reduce those darkened forces from a naked view if I were in his position though. Seems difficult. |
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| ohGr – 101 Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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101 Intro... "laughing (slows) Kill what? Oh my god what should i say about the world? It's nothing really sold (not sure that's the lyric) (unintelligible) Turn those trees... concrete Oil Oil Oil Creature of the black lagoon Death no wars Black suits Did another 1 0 1 ..." Also, I should mention that the 101 intro is a joke. I find it pretty hilarious at least. "Oh my God, what should I say about the world?" Kind of like that's what he says right before starting to create unDeveloped. And just laughing before hand before creating it and the laughing slowing. He jokingly gives an overview of what he's going to sing about just mentioning a bunch of sort of random things. I guess I'm being that lame person who explains the joke though...so I'll stop. |
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| ohGr – Comedown Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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| ohGr – Nitwitz Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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*Perhaps it's wrong to color a person's perception about lyrics like this and it robs them of the experience of understanding what it's about. On the other hand, judging from the number of posts for DIMD and the nature of the subject matter, someone might as well do it.* *I think the meaning behind unDeveloped lies between the external ideas and the individual thinking them.* I'll start by saying this seems to be about people who lived during the Cold War, or at least the stage is set during such a time period. And when you hear the "crazy crazy way to define your life" I think it might be referencing people who sort of use insane events in order to define the time period they lived in. Kind of like how the "greatest generation" is defined as all the people who fought in World War II where millions died. And often people from that generation are defined by their military service and how they "served their country". But this isn't really about WWII. More so talking about people who defined their life during a certain time period, and how Americans defined their life during the Cold War as being based around the conflict between the US and the soviet union. And there was so much fear based around atomic bombs, nuclear weapons (and there still is obviously), so much paranoia and people working in order to avert a nuclear disaster. Point being, there are vast amounts of other ways in which a government could kill citizens of an opposing one or of their own. To assume that nuclear weapons are the only form of warfare that can really be harmful to us is very ignorant. And when I say this I'm not referring to arab terrorists strapping bombs to their bodies or flying planes into buildings. But there are perhaps far more complex ways of killing people that don't involve nuclear weapons as people thought of them during the Cold War. And yet people are nitwitz because they assume that the only thing they have to fear is an atomic bomb and are ignorant of the other ways in which people can be killed. The whole "zip it up clear for public part" could describe diversionary tactics used during the Cold War maybe based around the STAR WARS defense that Reagan talked about in a speech. And feeling like nothing's inside here, could be these people's heads or the viability of the SDI (Strategic Defense Initiative). So the SDI was another sick maneuver? To hide to disguise? Or maybe it's referencing more current situations that mirror the past Cold War. So defining your life based on these large scale events pertaining to our government (kind of like how people of the more current generation would view a time period before 9/11 and after 9/11) is thought to be crazy crazy crazy. Not quite sure about the whole "hit this" lyric but here's some suggestions. Maybe because these people smoked marijuana in their youth and probably quit around the time of the Cold War or something? And smoking marijuana could remind them of the past. Or trying to find a way to slow time down? Limit time? Too high? Maybe similar to 'Comedown' in that these people are on some sort of metaphorical drug they need to get off of in order to see the truth. So they're too high right now? Or they're supposed to hit some wall "this" in order to wake up from their dream. These all could be wrong, not sure. But they're the atomic kids who now forget about the situation they lived in during their youth. And they forget how such Cold War fears were used and how harmful they were to society, and also maybe even how unfounded they were? Yea, so the fears were acidic. So what do queers have to do with this? I think it's the fact that around the time of the Cold War homosexuality was considered a mental illness and was listed as such in the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual). That's the manual psychologists/psychiatrists use to diagnose mental illness in people, and it's constantly changing. And so fast is the pace these people live in, they so quickly forget how things were in the past and seem to live day to day with no contemplation about how the past relates to the future (the present). But even though just a few decades prior, homosexuality was considered a mental illness by our society (like schizophrenia, depression, etc), by a snap of the finger homosexuals have pride again. Those who forgot something...doomed to something it, I forget. Not sure if what we're seeing inside here is inside him or inside them. But anyways it's like people have lost the appetite to examine what life is about and examine the past and how it relates to the present and future. Like they've lost the energy to understand anything that's not 6 feet in front of them. He's feeling something inside him now? Traced from this Cold War time period? Engaged to the lies. Kind of like connecting the dots between the past and the present, that's why it's "traced from another days" and the lies of the past are engaged to the lies of the present. So people are continually only capable of the most basic, surface attention to world events and yet they define their life based on these events without even understanding them very well or questioning them. There may be a repetition to it all I suppose. In cycles. I'm glad I wasn't alive during the Reagan years though...or we'll see? |
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| ohGr – Crash Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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*Perhaps it's wrong to color a person's perception about lyrics like this and it robs them of the experience of understanding what it's about. On the other hand, judging from the number of posts for DIMD and the nature of the subject matter, someone might as well do it.* *I think the meaning behind unDeveloped lies between the external ideas and the individual thinking them.* This song calls into question the role of entertainers like Michael Jackson (who are obviously very different from ohGr in terms of popularity and people who listen to the music). And the effect that this role has on the entertainer. But more importantly the effect this sort of person, and their role, has on the general public. Once again, you have to look at the latent functions (or perhaps they're manifest functions) of these situations. Anyone who followed the Michael Jackson story even a little bit probably understands that, at least at the time of his death, he had been injected with Propofol (a hypnotic) and two different kinds of benzos. That's one blanket, the other being his son's nickname, and I guess a third being the false reality blanket that is touched on more in later tracks. The second graph makes me think about all the people who have received Michael Jackson CDs as gifts for birthdays, Christmasses, Hanukkahs, etc. Receiving the songs of someone who was forced to perform from a young age and by many accounts lived a very unhealthy and strange existence. And yet so many people in the world get enjoyment out of his tragic life. But also the idea that his music is a hollow story used to pacify the masses or at least further divert them from any critical thinking. I wonder about the "man son man" lyric and how it could be reinterpreted as "Manson man." Another cultural icon (that is Charles Manson). These people get so big that they pretty much lose any fragment of individuality and become these strange ghosts. Definitely a reference to how those type of people become tools to convey a particular message. "Fleeing from the wrong side, body with the hive." Easily manipulated masses. They're fleeing from their problems through the wrong door, and their bodies I guess with the "hive" or the majority. Also referencing the type of people who loved Michael Jackson and thought he was just the greatest thing ever. If you saw these people on the news when he died, they cling to him in a completely bizarre obsessed fashion. People like that are truly asleep in Neverland, definitely the sort of people who chose to be kids forever like in Peter Pan. And more to the "never-land" thing, you could be talking about people who never land, obviously. People who have their heads in the clouds or whatever and are not living in any sort of reality. It's saying our society is too wrapped up in the bullshit that flies from every direction, too focused on having "fun" to the point of ignoring the real world. A tipping over cowardice? Like cow tipping? Where people push over sleeping cows for fun. A similar reference to what you get later in Animist for example comparing current humanity to cattle. And in this case, sleeping cows who are falling over. Probably also references the plague of indifference that you see mentioned later on unDeveloped. There's also a comparison of our sort of infantile false reality mind frame to opiates. That's another (4th) example of the blanket. A lot of people who do heroin, oxycodone, etc describe opiates/opioids as being like a blanket that you just crawl into and feel nothing. Something to that effect. Might be a stretch but since you see the afterbirth lyric mentioned you could think of it as like how when heroin addicts give birth to kids (and they used while pregnant) the babies are born in withdrawal, premature, or whatever. Anyways, it's like how people hide in a blanket of bullshit, then they have children who are comparable to the children of heroin users because they perpetuate the cycle. "Needles my forgiveness" as in people forgiving what's happening out there by using drugs? Or these children who were fed garbage from birth turn to drugs because of what their parents gave them. But the adherence to this false reality, like heroin (or oxycodone, etc) keeps people from ever getting to where they want to be. Like how with drug addicts if you're actively using you feel like shit and want to stop and feel like a loser, but when you aren't using you feel bored and feel like you want to get high again. The grass is always greener on the other side. As I said, that passage might be stretch, not sure though. And then you have the "never ending worry" that people will wake up? Or that people will be less combative and disagreeable towards each other? Or more likely is it that these people are worried that they'll wake up themselves, because they're scared of our actual reality. And so they're walking hand in hand but are sweating because they're experiencing withdrawal from the hallucination that keeps them numb, in the blanket. This track's title may be similar to the idea with "Comedown." In that people are "crashing" off the false reality. Then again, it mentions opiates and I thought crashing was a term more applied to stimulants. |
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| ohGr – Collidoskope Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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*Perhaps it's wrong to color a person's perception about lyrics like this and it robs them of the experience of understanding what it's about. On the other hand, judging from the number of posts for DIMD and the nature of the subject matter, someone might as well do it.* *I think the meaning behind unDeveloped lies between the external ideas and the individual thinking them.* Kaleidoscope. Collide-o-scope. Collides, cope. It's the world view, way of looking at the world, a distorted reality, like looking into a kaleidoscope. Is it the author who's looking through it? Or is the collidoskope the false filter that others look through in their perception of a false world. Everything that fueled the hope in others for change has died, or everything that fueled the hope in the author has died. Also, the voices at the beginning, like some twisted greeting welcoming you to a false reality or at least a blurred, obscured view of reality. Kaleidoscopes I guess are a circle of mirrors. Could connect it to the smoke and mirrors of this reality. Retrospection leans forward? Like your view of the past is somehow morphed or colored by the present or the anticipated future. As in you marginalize actions or thoughts in the past and change them to fit the present time period or something. I also thought of the word "lien" which is I guess some way of securing the payment of a debt, I don't fully understand what it is though. You could perhaps apply it to the foreclosure situation. But yea, one way or another, everything within people's means is property of this Collidoskope. Or more specifically, within this construct of reality, everything that a person can access is controlled. Every piece of reality that people have access to is property and under the creation of the Collidoskope. Or the resources they would need to create some sort of change are not under their control, but perhaps under the control of entities that would discourage this sort of change. And so the unfolding of some events seem systematic. The collective indifference seems systematic. A collaboration toward dystopia. Even perhaps suggesting it's happening on a collective unconscious scale. It's a dramatic meeting of the minds. Could also go back to the idea about a group of people who would've done something to change things in the past have now been rendered useless by this Collidoskope. Though it's unclear if the collidoskope would've been around in the past or not, or if it's more of a current situation. Excavate the bloody chills, it's seeping through the cracks with the... is it line or lie or life not sure. But either way one explanation could be that when you start digging into the darkness of the world, the truth is seeping through the cracks. Like the false reality construct is there but there are perhaps small cracks in it that truth is leaking out of. So the truth is there, it's seeping out of this. And then it's asking, where did everyone go and when did they call to say they were leaving. I guess this goes back to the lack of resistance to what's happening in America and of course also the world today. All the people who would stand up and give some sort of resistance have left and they never called to say they were going. It really goes to a massive theme on unDeveloped that there is some loss of consciousness occurring where people are receding further and further into their shells. unDeveloping, becoming husks, almost robotic. It's either, "Just like..." or "Dislike the age of animal, This archetype of life." I think this might go to the following idea... Essentially, when you think of farm animals and the lives they live you pick up on the fact that they don't understand what's going on. They don't understand that they're being bred in order to be used as food for another organism. They just sort of eat their corn (or sometimes grass) and before they know it they hanging upside down dead. So is it possible that humans are operating with a similar ignorance? Is it possible that just like how farm animals don't understand what their lives are truly about, neither do we? Maybe we aren't being used as food for something else, but is there a similar lack of understanding? Again, the message of the false reality. So the "age of animal" is more like "the life of an animal?" Anyways, our reality is an archetype of life. Archetype can be used to mean "an original that has been imitated." So like we're living in some imitation of what life should really be. False reality. Or you could look at it as people looking down on the days when we didn't have technology and all this development when we were more like animals. But yet we're just as, or more unDeveloped than we were back then, like we're psychologically moving backwards. Author once again asks where everyone went, where all the consciousness is going. I don't know about the "Lifeless substance to devour." But I'll just say it's the people that are lifeless? And they're just spending all their life devouring like hungry hippos or something. They're totally lifeless mindless consumers. And I guess it fills their future (distant). Or it could be that the construct or "cancer" mentioned on "101" is itself the lifeless substance that's devouring us and is eating away and filling up our future. Not sure about the last word of the "From the acid of the (?)" line. So this game plays itself out in 3-D visions of life. |
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| ohGr – Comedown Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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*Perhaps it's wrong to color a person's perception about lyrics like this and it robs them of the experience of understanding what it's about. On the other hand, judging from the number of posts for DIMD and the nature of the subject matter, someone might as well do it.* *I think the meaning behind unDeveloped lies between the external ideas and the individual thinking them.* Stimulant psychosis? But also socialization. Puts forth the image of a newborn being socialized to this world, but also someone who is coming out of a psych ward, for what I believe would be stimulant psychosis. Then again, you get the feeling that these are sort of metaphors for a person who is beginning to see the world as it really is. Like they're coming down from the socialization and lies that one may be exposed to from the very beginning. So a person who re-dosed too many times or whatever is experiencing psychosis. They get thrown in a padded room and now the drugs are wearing off and the temporary psychosis is fading as they walk out of the hospital and see the sun. One could view that padded room as the false reality that people perceive on a daily basis. Essentially sane in an insane society type of deal. White room allies? People who you think are looking out for you but really they aren't? Or just false notions of the world. I'm not quite sure why "waiting" would become a concern or "solicitude" now that such a change has taken place though and why it wouldn't have been before. Perhaps once you perceive the truth about the world you would become more concerned about change occurring because you better understand the situation? And so you're concerned about waiting for some sort of positive change to take place or other people to "wake up" for that matter. And the world and our species are like an undeveloped polaroid picture. But mainly humanity, psychologically undeveloped. Few lyrics I'm not sure on. Amber synonymous with yellow...cowardly promise? Wrap up rhyme? Artificial. Throw the curve? My best guess is that it might vaguely describe diversions in our society that discourage people from any sort of truth allowing them to view the world from a more developed perspective? Not sure though. I guess "loosing your mind" could be becoming the insane person in an insane society (making you sane overall) type of thing. And it's asking when the listener is going to join the person who has seen a deeper layer of reality. It's inviting the listener to come join in. The part beginning with "undecided" I think may describe the person who hasn't lost their mind yet, so to speak. They're undecided, their choices all lies maybe. They aren't sure the world is as bad is maybe some would paint it to be? And their choice lies in something. The darker aspects of reality they've hidden because they're too painful? Or something...but they've been lost in time. Or an analogy of kids who may have been angry at the world at a young age but they lost that edge in time. Now they're under curfew, repressive ties. The word "curfew" makes one think of rebellious teenagers. And once again, asking when this individual is going to get rid of all the falsity and lose their mind. Maybe they'll find a previous version of their self. But yea, it makes you think of like teenage goth kids who had a certain attitude toward the world but are now marginalized "regular" members of society, if you will. Young people who lost their darker aspects in time. But also it could refer to the author himself, though I think it's less likely. And so the seeds to see the truth of a deeper reality had been sewn but they were denied. But was it this author who planted these seeds? And maybe some people understand music best as being a marker for certain times in their life. Not so much paying attention to the lyrics or the message but just as a sing along to mark an era of their life. Not sure about the "Hack no laughing rhymes." But I like to think of it as jokingly calling himself a hack for maybe being too serious in the past or something along those lines. But I'm really not too sure and it's kind of hard to even know if that's the correct lyric. But like maybe his message was marginalized a bit because he was looked at as some goth hack? And because the music was viewed as being so dark and gloomy people saw it as just some depressed person being overly angsty or just another shocking performer trying to make a buck. At least these people who didn't get the message viewed it like that. That's the surface view. Just imagine the people who listened to Skinny Puppy, etc in the early days and now are all grown up with kids or something and they like sell cars for a living or something to that effect. And all the messages from those earlier days seem to have evaporated under the idea that it was just like a phase, or a certain time period they went through. And they haven't listened to the music in years, or if they have it's to remind them of what they were going through during that era of their life. But the messages from that music didn't take, they didn't register with the person enough for them to be inspired to do something with those feelings (something positive of course). Anyways, then the advice to take some time to look around this "pile" as in our world. And in doing so, perhaps wake up from the dream created by your eyes. As in the visible reality is some sort of shade or false construct. Seize the existence that is rapidly drying up before you and maybe become less passive. Open up your insides and look around, or I guess advice to be more introspective. And continuing to implore the listener to "crash" in other words come off the "drug" of a less accurate reality and crash like someone whose been re-dosing for days on end with no sleep, food, etc. Essentially, more encouragement for the listener to wake up from this dream. There may also be a part of this track that examines the fact that people are deathly afraid of experiencing this more accurate version of reality because it may be very scary to them and very frightening. And so you get the lyric "laugh and cry." Maybe suggesting that it's acceptable to feel these emotions or something along those lines. Another thing is that this track may be self-referential. The parts that I mention as referencing other people could be just referencing the author. You can definitely view it as being a person talking to the past version of their self (or even a current or recent version) in the same way I thought of it as talking to another person. Instead of asking another person to "wake up" he's asking himself to change thinking patterns and maybe even criticizing past actions or at least seeing the flaws in them or something to that effect. It goes to one of the larger themes of unDeveloped, that is being able to accept the way things are while simultaneously kind of feeling how terrible they are and sort of moving past it. Or at least somehow being OK with the mess and being able to "laugh and cry" about it instead of letting it tear you up so violently. So you could also reinterpret the "who you'll find, lose your mind" lyric as wondering what kind of person the author will find when they "comedown" from this inability to accept the way things are. And so a change will take place turning him into a new person. And so on and so forth... And the author wants these people who are still living in a false world to "crash and die." With crash probably having a similar meaning to what it did in song of the same title. Whereby these people need to kill off the part of their self that is still living in such a mind state. There's also the whole groupie idea I think possibly. Like chicks who want to get with the "rock star." The author wondering when people are going to "Comedown" to where he is and blow his mind, as opposed to something else. As "blow his mind" intellectually or creatively. The polaroid picture also references the past, like in the early days of Skinny Puppy I guess, not sure when those cameras were used. Amber promise? Again maybe like some cowardly promise from a fan, not sure. Maybe I'm not interpreting the Amber thing right. But anyways the author's rhymes wrap up how these people feel, but it's artificial because they don't really understand it. I just imagine like some fan or some radio interviewer offering to "Comedown there and blow his mind." Or some shit like that and though it's fair that they're taking it in a different context and making a joke, it's that type of person I guess. And you sometimes hear people say that so and so "threw me a curve ball." The author is perhaps asking people to throw him a curve ball and to be less stagnant, I don't know. Maybe I'm going too far with the sort of fan analogy. |
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| ohGr – Bellew Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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*Perhaps it's wrong to color a person's perception about lyrics like this and it robs them of the experience of understanding what it's about. On the other hand, judging from the number of posts for DIMD and the nature of the subject matter, someone might as well do it.* *I think the meaning behind unDeveloped lies between the external ideas and the individual thinking them.* It's paying attention to the intrapersonal function of I guess "truth seeking" sort of behaviors. This sort of digging maybe, and the effects it has on the digger. The benefits they receive from such activity and why it's rewarding. So a person builds sources to the truth and in doing so I guess experiences some change in mood for example. Essentially, there's the idea of a person who pays particular attention to the "negatives" in life, they focus in on the problems of the world and what societal issues demand serious attention and what's going wrong with existence. Then there's the person who views the glass as half full. Or more specifically, there's as much positive as negative and that's the way the world is. Things aren't actually that bad you're just attending to the bad things, you have to notice the positives as well. That would be the idea. Point being, the first person sees the truth of existence and the second person has evened everything out in order to feel good about how awful reality actually is. The second person has a layer falsity to their existence that the first individual is missing. Basically like, the truth is dark and painful. And the worse you feel about something the more true it probably is. This part may be reaching, but... The floating ghost of numbers could refer to a mass of people, a particular segment of the population. Perhaps people who, in the past may have been angry and active in trying to change the world as it is. But the sheen has faded from this active involvement that was more present in the past, and from the blood of this specter the New Age feeds. And this New Age mentality is overshadowing public outrage and anger towards the state of America, and in fact, Earth itself. In other words, people perhaps have begun just looking inward to feel better about the world instead of actually doing anything to change it. And it does appear that the term "new age" likely, at least partially, refers to the typical "New Age" one would think of. The final part is where the individual searches for the ability to accept how terrible things are and feel OK from a "naked view" as in one that is still truthful and not some sort of delusion. So like knowing the truth, whether there's a "construct" or not, and still being OK and having the ability to accept it. You get the feeling that any "evening out" at all was pretty much rejected though, especially if all the tracks are supposed to be in some sort of sequence. And anyone who has been through a variety of mind states, perhaps using meditation (or some derivative which is just really the same thing) can maybe understand how when you transition from one to the other there's an evening of things that takes place and upsetting circumstances in the world become less of a concern. I guess you could even say the same about using drugs but that's less permanent I guess. Or even participating in some kind of psychotherapy or something. But anyways, the idea being that when you're in this better mental state and things seem more even and positive, it's actually less true. The truth is more so on the darker side of things where you aren't experiencing that "evening" of problems. It would make sense with the whole "new age" thing in my opinion. And is a unique experience. And finally here's to the point of maybe what unDeveloped is all about... It's a situation where the more you learn about the truth of reality and the more you dig into what's really going on, the worse you feel, the more powerless you feel, and the closer you get to jumping off a bridge. You think about it and focus on it more and more and you just feel worse and worse. And before you know it, you become just like the problems that upset you so much before or at least closer to those problems. You're a total mess because you were so focused on getting closer to the truth of reality, from a powerless position (really all positions would be powerless in this scenario). And so people say, "well, what good is learning these truths if it makes you feel so bad?" And that statement itself is (from what I've explained) the reason things are so bad in the first place... because people are running away from what's really going on. They're sticking their heads in the sand. So how do you get out? The more you learn the more fucked up you get. But if you try to feel better you're running from the truth which is the thing that upsets you so much about other people and perpetuates the world's problems. Somewhere in this maze may lie a degree of conscientiousness that is maladaptive to our planet, but any less of it would make you just another jerk-off who doesn't give a fuck, right? You're in a maze, but is there a way out? Guess that's for the individual to decide. |
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| ohGr – Animist Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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*Perhaps it's wrong to color a person's perception about lyrics like this and it robs them of the experience of understanding what it's about. On the other hand, judging from the number of posts for DIMD and the nature of the subject matter, someone might as well do it.* *I think the meaning behind unDeveloped lies between the external ideas and the individual thinking them.* Animist, as in a person who believes that all physical objects have souls. Common among "primitive" people. Again, "primitive" people. Civilized, developed people would never believe such a silly thing. Any mist? Any missed? Well, something got missed. It goes to the title of all this... the idea that despite all our technology, vast populations all supposedly contributing something unique, our complicated societal system... humanity is still very much unDeveloped. Some sort of internal resistance to the "pistons" as in the smaller aspects, more basic ground forces that contribute to the "engines" which create the lie we're living in. Perhaps we're talking about the people who contribute to the engines of this lie, or we're talking about the broken ideas and thought processes that contribute to the lie. And it's not just that humanity is unDeveloped as in a form of stasis, but actually we're unDeveloping, as in rapidly moving backwards. Retrogressing. And since that motor is said to be through the eyes, we're talking about the mind I think. Continual references to eyes throughout unDeveloped. As in all that you see, is not all that you see. Again the eyes betray you. And the world that you're seeing, the surface reality is a lie. Shadowed distance? As in a dark future? And it overflows the environment, or media outlets. Does sort of make sense that the information one's bombarded with on the news would overflow, so much negativity right. It may eat away at you during this "extra time?" Perhaps have a corrosive effect on you, into the earliest of crime. Become numb to all the bad news but effects you subconsciously? Once again, we're backtracking, despite all the technology and such we're actually moving backwards perhaps into a more animalistic state, despite what it may look like on the surface. The endless stream of negative information cancels resistance by numbing you to the desire to change maybe. Because the task seems to great, requires too much energy, kills any spirit you'd have toward change. So the apathy and indifference become allied as the individual sees our problems as being too great and are in effect psychologically herded to a particular behavior, if you will. "Extra muscle tatters chewing angels matted matters override." This part comes across as quite vague to me. But here goes. Extra muscle being our brain? The added abilities of our brain compared to other animals. But it tatters because it's not being used, that critical thinking aspect of the brain, the ability to deconstruct and contemplate with the mind is deadened. So we go from being humans (with the ability to think in this way) back to something like cattle who can't. Chewing angels? Grazing on religion the way cows eat grass, in order to distract yourself from the truth. Could be likely considering the title is essentially a religion. But it's all for naught. Because the tangled mess of life's situations overrides the benefit you'd achieve through religion? "Tables for the mating rapes the filling meats for different hate." Hm. Maybe the table mentioned is like a religious family sitting down to eat. Reminds me of saying grace. So are they "raping" their kid's minds and filling their minds with misplaced something? And by raping the kid's minds I mean feeding them the vast falseness that religion has to offer or even the vast falseness that information in general has to offer. Also praying to God before eating an animal that went through some awful procedure to get to their plate. Not sure what the "different hate" is though. Perhaps some bizarre subconscious redirection of feelings about how horrible some aspects of this existence are. Like hate the devil instead of hating the actual reality based forces that cause problems in our world? Hate homosexuals, and on and on. Perhaps something to this effect. "The simple trial and error mode to execute your inner troll." As in you bend and twist aspects of the religion in order to fit daily occurrences and issues in your life. And though I may be going too hard on the religion thing, it seems to fit quite well and makes sense with the title. You could also see it as being just the variety of methods people use to divert their attention from darkness of our world. Even ideas not related to religion. "Make it up to miss the point." That's conscious, subconscious intention to avoid confronting reality as it is by burrowing your mind in something that's made up (religion) in order to purposefully miss the point. But that goes for any weird thought scaffolding that diverts oneself from the truth. What's the role of choice in all this? People just become religious because they're exposed to it from a young age? But then what about the people who grow up in religious households who don't become religious or become vehemently opposed to organized religion. Not sure that's what's meant. Could be like asking sadly... Is this the role of choice? As in, why would someone knowingly choose to live an existence that so violently denies the truth. And to what extent are larger societal forces forcing the hand of choice by the world that's been created, etc etc. So these religious people are always praying for change in their lives, always being obedient to the lord (or saying they are) and base all their life around God and being faithful. And yet the actions that would really create change, the actions that would intelligently address problems and deal with them are totally absent. There's a disconnect with the real world and sort of cause and effect relationships. The extra muscle tatters. And Godot is apparently a very famous and renowned play about two guys who are waiting endlessly for someone named Godot to show up and he never does but they wait forever. I know nothing of the play but it seems like Godot doesn't exist at all most likely. So you have these religious people who are waiting, forgotten by society maybe, or they've forgotten how to operate their brains personally. And their concept of reality is based on a book told by Godot, as in a book about someone who doesn't exist. These people are like the two characters in the play who wait endlessly for someone that doesn't exist. Just like religious people are waiting endlessly for a God that doesn't exist. But after reading the Wikipedia entry it's interesting to see that many people thought that Godot represented God but the guy who wrote it said that it wasn't his conscious intention to create that connection. But then is says how he always emphasized the unconscious in his writing and so he might have subconsciously included a reference to God in the play. |
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| ohGr – Screw Me Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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*Perhaps it's wrong to color a person's perception about lyrics like this and it robs them of the experience of understanding what it's about. On the other hand, judging from the number of posts for DIMD and the nature of the subject matter, someone might as well do it.* *I think the meaning behind unDeveloped lies between the external ideas and the individual thinking them.* Something different going on up there...Within the individual's mind or this construct as a whole. And ahead for this "helpless stranger" awaits the life we always dreamed in, or the dream of a false reality. But "life"... it's not what you'd expect it to be. Perhaps the false reality is tempting because it's more comforting than the truth of the situation. And even though it's tempting to buy into this, at the same time it's implied that no meaningful changes ever seem to take place. Maybe the other aspect that's tempting is the desire to change to world and do something to create a permanent different. So you can also look at these lyrics as being about someone who dreams about being in the position to enact or inspire some major changes but once they're where they thought they wanted to be, they realize such change never seems to happen. Anyways if the lyric is "nothing ever happens and nothing feels the same" I think the idea might be that working to change our world feels useless because nothing ever seems to change for the positive, and doing nothing (as in total apathy) is useless because you just end up feeling the same about the planet around you. And maybe he sarcastically "lucked out again" because he's still alive (versus people you'd see on the news dying, etc). But he's saying it sarcastically because the world is so awful you aren't really lucky at all? "If nothing's to it then what's happening, unknown" is about those who would say that there's nothing going on behind the scenes that's any different than it has ever been. Or maybe more accurately, there's nothing to reality and what you see is actually what you get and that the basic assumptions are accurate. The shape-shifted finite ending likely refers to the popular conspiracy theory of the shape-shifting reptilians who are said to control critical aspects of government and corporations, etc etc. Just look up that one DMT'd / former soccer (football) player who had a fondness for turquoise clothing. I think it would be a mistake though to assume that ogre is making a declarative statement with this line, more accurately he's just sort of suggesting (perhaps somewhat sarcastically) the most provocative explanation for the colossal problems in this world and doing the same in saying that we might face a finite ending. That goes to the meaning of the chorus as well sort of. The idea being that one is antagonistically telling the world to "screw me, I like it". Could also be talking about the people out in the world who are unwittingly (that is they're allowing these things to happen through ignorance) being screwed by the system, and sort of making fun of them saying that they like the awful situations they're in as a result of how things are run. And so the person scratching is purposefully avoiding looking at some homeless person who has been chewed up by this world, and nervously scratching in order to try and conceal the way they feel about it...something to that effect. Honestly not sure if the lyric is "build a life of tired genius, benigns reverses how it's spent" or "life of tired dream years, lines reverses all respect". If it's "tired genius, benigns" you're talking about people who work all their life to make changes in the world through so much work and all the progress they make is reversed by people just acting in a benign manner. So it's basically useless, even for the boring genius working tirelessly to enact changes. Could also be "tired dream years" in which you're talking about those living the typical "American dream" lifestyle who get it taken away from them by either those benigns or a lack of respect because they're getting older or people just simply don't care about them. But to me the lyric could go either way I guess. Either way you kind of get a similar message. And it seems there are multiple versions of this track. And one of the versions is much clearer that he says "build life of tired genius" I think. So I guess that's the right lyric. And then it's "empty" to know you tried so hard throughout life only to have it all undone. But it's not simple, and yet even with knowing this, the vicious cut remains (as in the feelings about this planet I guess, or frustration with other human beings) and so the "senses and blame" about such a situation remain. So "screw me, I like it" because you don't really give a fuck anymore, and it could be statement pointed at all the people out there who do nothing and are contributing to all our problems, or it could be aimed at the originators of these problems at the top. |
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| ohGr – tragek Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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*Perhaps it's wrong to color a person's perception about lyrics like this and it robs them of the experience of understanding what it's about. On the other hand, judging from the number of posts for DIMD and the nature of the subject matter, someone might as well do it.* *I think the meaning behind unDeveloped lies between the external ideas and the individual thinking them.* I'd say this track has to do with the Tsunami in Japan but since unDeveloped was released in May and the Tsunami happened in March, I'm not so sure. There's also the "voodoo" lyric, which suggests it could also be about the Haitian earthquake. But Haiti isn't overseas, so again I'm not sure. Either way you're talking about understanding how these situations were handled and what were the circumstances that led up them. You're probably also talking about that capitalized misspelled musical instrument, if you've heard it. It's also worth mentioning that the number of people killed in Haiti was around 300,000. The number of people killed in Japan was around 15,000 at this point with 5,000 missing. Also, you could think about how much of a connection there is between scientific research and the social utility that results from it. How much of scientific research actually gives our world something useful that makes it a better place to live in. And how much of that research further degrades our world. But I guess it's all progress right? It's in our DNA they'll say, that's what we do as a species is discover things and build machines, etc etc. And if you're going to allow people to research things that (supposedly) make our world better, you have to allow people to research the things that steadily destroy it. Makes you wonder about selling a nuclear power plant as waterfront property. There's also the layer of this track that deals with the individual asking about what's going on that led to such terrible natural disasters. And is it even worth asking / acting? Also, perhaps there's an element where either the "construct" is watching these awful situations in other countries or it's the American public salivating as they watch such disasters unfold on our various television news networks. Either way there's some laughing going on I think. But we're such a generous country and we provided aid to these countries during such an awful disaster. I think the "Action, this quick again" lyrics has to be sarcastic because of how slow the US can be to act in such scenarios. Maybe "beating the game" is not dying, in other words surviving as you watch people dead in piles of rubble in other countries and enjoying the fact that you're still alive and not in such an awful country and such an awful situation. In effect, you "beat the game" because you're alive and they're dead. Though it could also be those will ill intentions who are dealing with the small fishes in order to "beat the game," or more specifically killing the small fishes directly or indirectly. As in systematic depopulation. There's also the element of deceiving foreign governments about America's true intentions when providing aid, etc. |
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| ohGr – hollow Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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*Perhaps it's wrong to color a person's perception about lyrics like this and it robs them of the experience of understanding what it's about. On the other hand, judging from the number of posts for DIMD and the nature of the subject matter, someone might as well do it.* *I think the meaning behind unDeveloped lies between the external ideas and the individual thinking them.* And so an individual compromises their message for money or some other reason? But I guess it's OK because it's not like anyone's dying. The message isn't that important. And the person creating the message is bleeding all over the "page" while creating it but maybe it's looked at in a different light, it's marginalized. Kind of like, you can't be taken seriously because you're screaming on a stage wearing makeup and flailing around. Also, as everyone knows, blaming people for things never gets anything done anyways. Could also be people who are compromised. You have to do things for money that you wouldn't do other wise, you're compromised by this system. Self-protection, and watching out for your own situation first and foremost, condemns you to a certain life, and a certain way of dealing with the world. And progress is stifled when everyone adopts this thought process because they can only sacrifice so much of their own existence to help another person or attempt to enact some sort of change on this planet. And I suppose the "lie" is that we aren't all connected. That each person is their own individual separated from the rest of the world. Although, the lie could also be the selfishness that is created by our economic system. Or the general "construct" idea that permeates unDeveloped. Bottom line being that when each person thinks only of themselves and their own situation (which is what our economic system specifically encourages you to do, that's the whole point of it) the world turns into the pile of shit we're looking at these days. And the future experiences steady degradation, but it's no problem because at least the predecessors had a good time spewing garbage everywhere. There might be another layer to this track too about how people devise a variety of strategies to protect themselves socially, among other ways. Instead of saying what's really going on, what's really on their mind, people bite their tongues because they're afraid of what others might think of them if they speak up. And so they protect themselves by further accepting the state of things and not "rocking the boat" so to speak. And so now these people are free to worry about the world and they'll keep the peace by not standing up and saying anything. But this song probably goes even deeper than that into letting go of one's ego and attachment to self. In my opinion, that's the person who's "knocking on their knees." He can't let go of that ego and it keeps him stagnant, and further, the whole world stagnant. I think everything's "full of shit" because this self-protective behavior is akin to lying. People increasingly bite their tongue and do not voice their concerns and desire for change and in doing so are essentially lying. Everyone's full of shit. Basically, suppression of the truth, even on the most basic individual level, is the biggest problem we face. And as a result, the future we're left with is getting exponentially worse, but it's OK because you'll be dead before you feel the effects of any of this (hopefully?). You'll be fine, so nothing to worry about really. And the future of our species? well that's the future's problem, we can only be held responsible for our own tiny existence. We have to worry about our own situation after all, can't worry about everyone else. And so on and so on... Also, you can look at this song as being directed at the "fans" similar to the lyrics of "Comedown." |
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| ohGr – 101 Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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*Perhaps it's wrong to color a person's perception about lyrics like this and it robs them of the experience of understanding what it's about. On the other hand, judging from the number of posts for DIMD and the nature of the subject matter, someone might as well do it.* *I think the meaning behind unDeveloped lies between the external ideas and the individual thinking them.* It seems to set the lyrical tone for what's to come. It's difficult to explain ideas like this if you aren't seeing them through a particular mental lens because you likely can't feel them in the way it's intended. But I think it speaks of our world as a construct in which there is something (a cancer) that is working to halt any type of societal progress. Also, I suppose you could interpret this cancer as either being intentionally malicious or a sad byproduct of humanity itself. This track can also be thought of as, like I spoke to above, the individual's interactions with finding the truth and digging through information to find it. As in the "stinking piles of underlines" either being the individual underlining things himself or the more glaring examples of truths in this construct. Instances where it sort of reveals itself to be what it truly is. You have to wonder what the "It" is that "sees through what's safe to say" in that lyric though. Because it either is the "cancer" or the construct I mentioned, if those things are different. And I view the "cancer" as being more an internal force while the construct is created on the outside and projected. But perhaps the lyrics suggest the "cancer" as being something that began on the outside and is now on our insides as a sort of virus. Also, "fascination with the truth, Doesn't get much closer to," as in just being fascinated by the truth and digging deeper doesn't get us closer to changing the situation? Just one viewpoint. Corsets create essentially a false image of a person's figure, making their body seem different than it is. However, corsets are sometimes also worn to support people with structural problems (back problems). Anyways, the truth of a person's figure can be revealed when the corset is removed. And the witch head makes me think of that famous drawing where if you look at it one way it's an unattractive woman with a huge nose (looks like a witch) and if you look at it another way it's a more attractive woman with like a pearl necklace or something. Other lyrics speak of how everything fits together as, like I said, a sort of orchestrated construct. For every societal problem we face there is a seemingly reasonable (but perhaps maliciously false) explanation put forth. But another way to look at it is how individuals sort of sculpt reality and put things together in a way that makes sense to them but could be completely false. The idea seems to go beyond just explaining societal problems within this construct. It could likely also be talking about the nature of life itself inside the construct. Essentially, for every question there's an answer, perhaps placed there by the construct and maybe the answer put forth is totally and purposefully inaccurate. Or even asking the question itself is a diversion from the larger issue. The construct's eyes are excusing critical words or excusing people who "speak the truth" maybe under the guise of free speech, of "freedom." And each of these opinions gets its day. But the song seems to suggest a limit to this, I would suspect based on public reaction / acceptance of what is being said. And maybe the "freedom" we're given is essentially being used against us by the construct. Every saying is allowed it's day, and bits of confusion eventually find the "truth," every detail has a word to describe it, and perhaps the "plaything" is the people who try to wake others up to the truth. Eventually they go away, one way or another, and nothing changes. And the author asks who he has to fuck in order for changes to occur? I think I've missed a few things but there it is. |
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| ohGr – pissage Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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*Perhaps it's wrong to color a person's perception about lyrics like this and it robs them of the experience of understanding what it's about. On the other hand, judging from the number of posts for DIMD and the nature of the subject matter, someone might as well do it.* *I think the meaning behind unDeveloped lies between the external ideas and the individual thinking them.* BUT IF THE FREE MARKET WERE ALLOWED TO WORK PROPERLY! Perhaps the familiar story of political parties creating the wonderful gridlock that can be seen even more recently with America's financial problems. It's those in the corners who crawl that provide the strength to perpetuate this current system's design? And again the focus on the pharmaceutical industry... The part about the perfume and medicine ball strike me as being about the seemingly endless diversions that engulf a person's life to keep them from thinking about the situations of the wider world. But also the pharmaceutical industry using misinformation tactics to make things seem harmless and nice but really they're killing people or at least giving them something they didn't order. And the pharmaceutical industry is pissing on the edge of society? While they "wait for the proof" that what they're selling is dangerous or wrong in some way. And then they're sending out misinformation, just like coke cut with flour to reduce the purity. Maybe the idea that America's basic tenets have been hijacked, or were from the beginning. These deadly wishes from a dead patriot from an America that's long long gone or never existed in the first place. So then "thrills" take the place of any part of a person that might question or be unhappy with the way things are going. And there are so many diversions, just pick one and divert your attention from what's happening. You'll "feed on sunshine" instead of getting in the way. It might make a person wonder about the functions of mental illness for example that the pharmaceutical industry so desperately tries to offer solutions for. Since the primary contributor to mental illness is too much stress from often real life scenarios. Maybe a person's body is encouraging them to do things differently for more than just selfish reasons. But no point in thinking about such things when you can correct it with a pill, right? No point in changing situations that can cause people anxiety etc, better to eat a pill. And so the "thrills" take your heart of gold and deafen you to critical thought. And now you're in a space, running in an economic hamster wheel thinking it's a race and waiting for a better sleeping pill. Sleeping pills to calm your anxiety at night that results from your problems that are yours alone? The track then questions the validity of our so-called "freedom" and perhaps calls into question the hidden function of such freedom and how it can be used against the people. But it's OK because we're free and dumb and time will undo any damage we do to the Earth. Time heals all wounds...? |
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| ohGr – pissage Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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PissAge This track does make you look at America's so often praised "Freedom" a little bit more critically... ^^ Thank God we have "Freedom of Speech" though or I couldn't say such a thing. Thank Jesus for the Internet and social networking as well because opinions are rare things and they're all so meaningful. |
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