| The Mowgli's – Carry Your Will Lyrics | 12 years ago |
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| The Thermals – Returning to the Fold Lyrics | 16 years ago |
| The comment about "system" I forgot to mention is that when people sometimes speak of totalitarian powers they refer to it as a system or machine. Yes, systems by nature are totalitarian because they have only one goal to achieve by any means. In reference to the education system, the system has a function which unfortunately has become a distinct kind of social awareness combined with a powerful functional illiteracy. It does not take a system to educate, as Wyclef said, "even the ghettos in American have libraries," knowledge is not power, it is essential to freedom. | |
| The Thermals – Returning to the Fold Lyrics | 16 years ago |
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For those above: Congruent, Broke Rock Star, Ashlyyn, are clearly on a deeper level of thinking and understanding than the rest both in opinion and factually. However, this does not completely discredit the above mentioned statements of opinion not fact. I say "not fact" because the comments beside the three mentioned by name, do not include any contextual understanding of the lyrics. I do not blame you beacuse the modern educational "system," please note the italics they will be important in a moment, has utterly failed to educate young minds along the principle of good knowledge and since the early development of our educational system has supplanted it with useful knowledge. In short I implore you to read the passage in the bible for the pillar of salt, Gen 19, and as Congruent (p.s. like the Euclid ref.) mentioned Nietzsche, read the genology of morals (the whole thing), and while you are at it if you get bit by the philosophy bug, read plato's republic then Hannah Arendt's Origins of Totalitarianism. I seriously implore all those above if you havent read it all the way through, to do so, especially for the one who have opposing views to the three mentioned by name. This is important because they both speak to your opinions. So for an intellectual discussion points while you read here are some facts I have come to realize, and some opinions of mine in relation to the statements and lyrics: Contextual Facts(s) of the totalitarians comments: 1)Taken in part from Plato's works The republic is a dialogue of building a government, in which a Republican government ie a representative government, is the mode of operation because it has best disposition to order without tyranny (now the context of the dialogue uses best as lesser of two evils) Democracy is the closest form of government to tyrant because it relies on... Mass movements of people, this is close to tyrrany (not a dictatorship like the bush mongorers would say, the fact is to have a dictatorship you need a dictator who STAYS IN POWER AND MAKES HIS LAWS BY CONSTANT FORCE) because as Alexus De Toqueville, butched his name, later pointed out in Tyrrany of the Majority. Therefore, An unguided democracy, or just the same a democracy guided by a tyranny can result in a totalitarian form of government. 2) Taken in part from Hannah Arendt's works Totalitarianism require the mass and unquestioning movement of people. Social doctrine is ultimately the most efficient way to move mass amounts of people, while leaving nothing to question except are you in our clique or not (other buzz words which you totalitarian mongers love are be a team player, you are either with us or against us, all true statements but always with an SOCIAL agenda attached). Therefore, Totalitarian movements will ultimately rely on social movements at some point in their lifespan e.g. the National Socialist movement in Germany. 3) Statements 1 and 2 unified A democracy guided by social movements i.e. a social democracy; is very near the edge of a totalitarian form of government. Social decisions can be democratic, democratic or rather political decisions cannot be social. For example, I my friends and I can exclude person X from our common friendship simply and solely if we do not get along socially with or "like" him/her, we cannot choose to politically assassinate or punish him or her based on solely not liking them. That would be rude. Facts in relation to the song: The lyrics have doubt. The lyrics have a deep intellectual background. The singer was raised Catholic, in a time of Eccmentical Growth in the history of the Catholic Church. The lyrics have a special kind of faith of the person who honestly and intellectually questions faith. A religion and evermore those who believe in God and/or have faith can be perscuted by a government, social movement, dictator, (my opinion is it's is either purposefully or subconsciously in the title of the album). Organized religion is differentiated and distinguished from how it is "organized" (this question must be sought after!) E.g. Is the religion a politically organized religion, a socially organized religion... or is it organized for an uncompromising self sacrifice for all persons? Questioning faith is not wrong e.g. read Mother Teresa's Dark Night of the Soul and her other works for a greater understanding of the issue at hand. My opinion(s): On totalitarianism, I think and feel as an American that we are losing our Representative Democracy (a wonderful and unique political invention that allows you to politically, not entirely though, exile people to make direct decisions for the democracy. In this way on pain of losings one's livelihood and political perks (you know there are some... fame to name one)a government official should be afraid of the people (there are far more deterrents to becoming a political official then perks: work load, taking the blame ect.), namely those he represents (a political philosophical point taken from the works of Thomas Jefferson). If you still think we are not losing our representative government than read his political works and understand what Jeffersonianism, not for a platform but for a decent measure. On the song, Wonderful, inspiring song of working out faith through a constant, life long struggle. The only thing I wish and hope for is for all to read, educate yourselves and read more. Life is Daily exercise, practicing for our eternal life. God is all Good, live well and happy lives. |
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| The Thermals – Returning to the Fold Lyrics | 16 years ago |
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For those above: Congruent, Broke Rock Star, Ashlyyn, are clearly on a deeper level of thinking and understanding than the rest both in opinion and factually. However, this does not completely discredit the abovementioned statements of opinion not fact. I say "not fact" because the comments beside the three mentioned by name, do not include any contextual understanding of the lyrics. I do not blame you beacuse the modern educational "system," please note the italics they will be important in a moment, has utterly failed to educate young minds along the principle of good knowlege and since the early development of our educational system has supplanted it with useful knowledge. In short I emplore you to read the passage in the bible for the pillar of salt, Gen 19, and as Congruent (p.s. like the euclid ref.) mentioned Nietzsche, read the genology of morals (the whole thing), and while you are at it if you get bit by the philosophy bug, read plato's republic then Hannah Arendt's Origins of Tolitarianism. I seriously emplore all those above if you havent read it all the way through, to do so, especially for the one who have opposing views to the three mentioned by name. This is important becuase they both speak to your opinions. So for an intellectual discussion points while you read here are some facts I have come to realize, and some opinions of mine in relation to the statements and lyrics: Contextual Facts(s) of the tolitariaist comments: 1)Taken in part from Plato's works The republic is a dialogue of building a government, in which a Republican government ie a representative government, is the mode of operation becuase it has best disposition to order without tyrrany (now the context of the dialogue uses best as lesser of two evils) Democracy is the closest form of government to tyrrant becuase it relies on... Mass movements of people, this is close to tyrrany (not a dictatorship like the bush mongorers would say, the fact is to have a dictatorship you need a dictator who STAYS IN POWER AND MAKES HIS LAWS BY CONSTANT FORCE) beucase as Alexus De Toqueville, butched his name, later pointed out in Tyrrany of the Majority. Therefore, An unguided democracy, or just the same a democracy guided by a tyranny can result in a tolitarian form of government. 2) Taken in part from Hannah Arendt's works Tolitarianism require the mass and unquestioning movement of people. Social doctrine is ultimately the most efficent way to move mass ammounts of people, while leaving nothing to question except are you in our clique or not (other buzz words which you tolitarian mongers love are be a team player, you are either with us or against us, all true statments but always with an SOCIAL agenda attached). Therefore, Tolitarian movements will ultimately rely on social movements at some point in their lifespan e.g. the National Socialist movement in Germany. 3) Statements 1 and 2 unified A democracy guided by social movements i.e. a social democracy; is very near the edge of a tolitarian form of government. Social decisions can be democratic, democratic or rather political decisions cannot be social. For example, I my friends and I can exclude person X from our common friendhship simply and solely if we do not get along socially with or "like" him/her, we cannot choose to politically assinate or punish him or her based on solely not liking them. That would be rude. Facts in relation to the song: The lyrics have doubt. The lyrics have a deep intellecutal background. The singer was raised Catholic, in a time of Eccmentical Growth in the history of the Catholic Church. The lyrics have a special kind of faith of the person who honestly and intellectually questions faith. A religion and evemore those who believe in God and/or have faith can be perscuted by a government, social movement, dictator, (my opinion is it's is either purposfully or subconsciously in the title of the album). Organized religion is differentiated and distinguished from how it is "organized" (this question must be sought after!) E.g. Is the religion a politically organized religion, a socially organized religion... or is it organized for an uncompromising self sacrifice for all persons? Questioning faith is not wrong e.g. read Mother Teresa's Dark Night of the Soul and her other works for a greater understanding of the issue at hand. My opinion(s): On tolitarianism, I think and feel as an American that we are losing our Representative Democracy (a wonderful and unique political invention that allows you to politically, not entirely though, exile people to make direct decisions for the democracy. In this way on pain of losings one's livelyhood and political perks (you know there are some... fame to name one)a government offical should be afraid of the people (there are far more deterents to becomeing a political offical then perks: work load, taking the blame ect.), namely those he represents (a political philosophical point taken from the works of Thomas Jefferson). If you still think we are not losing our repreentative government than read his political works and understand what Jeffersonianism, not for a platform but for a decent measure. On the song, Wonderful, inspiring song of working out faith through a constant, life long struggle. Life is Daily excercise, practicing for our eternal life. God is all Good, live well and happy lives. |
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