| Butthole Surfers – 22 Going On 23 Lyrics | 9 years ago |
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Palzon is disgusting. That just needed to be said. Hearing this now I can have a clearer grasp on what it all means. When I first heard it I didn't understand and I was just a little skeeved. I've been a surfers fan since I was 10yrs old in the IWS era. I heard this album for the first time several years later but I was still a young man. Now I can see it rather clearly. Those on this thread assigning some rape-victim shaming or victim invalidation are reading their own misgivings into this piece. It doesn't matter if the first woman is lying. It does matter if you think the second woman's complaints are frivolous. If you look at the entirety of the surfers' work you can see where it comes from. If you think the context of "Butthole Surfer" is its glorifying the bashing then you have misunderstood. there was something significant about them taking on that mantle of the "butthole surfer" in the face of the greater punk music scene that was becoming more and more just like every other patriarchal institution. To think that this song would be so different from all of the other work and use suffering for "shock" value or make a direct social commentary is ignorance. To "shock" as an agenda you have to play consistently on societal norms and go out of your way to do the opposite. While the surfers do thoroughly manipulate musical conventions to great effect you can see that their overall absurdist style transcends "shock" and lands on being. Their existence is the subversion. I can see this song as another reflection of modern life. It's fuckin' atrocious and musical accompaniment is right there. |
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| The Gun Club – For The Love of Ivy Lyrics | 16 years ago |
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i don't believe this has anything directly to do with the cramps. elvis from hell, in my opinion is a referance to blackface minstrels, giving you a good idea of the kind of setting your dealing with in this story. your protagonist is a steel drivin' man and it seems that ivy is a woman, but it could be more cryptic. jawbone eat and jawbone talk, jawbone eat me with a knife and fork, could be another reference to blackface minstrels who sang a song with that refrain, or could be a reference to the slaves that sang it first. so, this steel drivin' man may have found his woman havin' an afair with a black man, and this broke his heart....and apparently pushed him over the edge, so now he's gonna start killin people. he goes to hunt the person, or persons he believed hurt him the most, then realizes that his woman was the one that actually betrayed him. now that he's dressed like an elvis from hell at the end i'll have to think on.....and on how that aspect really fits in, but, seriously, in context i cannot imagine anyone really thinking this is racist, or that JLP or the gun club in total would be racist. the steel drivin' man may have been racist, or psychotic....just doesn't sound like anybody is condoning hunting niggers in the dark. sin. Jay Dubs Doe |
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