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Thrice – Words in The Water Lyrics 14 years ago
This song is clearly about Dustin picking up the Bible and it causing him to sink and someone saves him by taking the book away. Such a touching song, moral of the story is that the Bible induces drowning, proof here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism

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Rise Against – Savior Lyrics 14 years ago
Guys, they had a video on what the song meant (in the making of their Savior vid). The girl is a polar bear, environmentalism. The elephant is the Republican Party. Now read the lyrics :P

Its about the estranged relationship b/w The Repubs and the cause they once championed, environmentalism.

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Rise Against – Savior Lyrics 15 years ago
Watched it again, in the video the elephant and bear were fighting earlier, and then at the end, the bear sees the elephant limping around on the streets, and the bear stops the bus so the elephant can get on.

Still confused, the whole political thing still holds up. Maybe the elephant is the guy in the video, the guy pushed the bear away in the video in the mosh pit thing, the song ends with "I don't hate you", maybe the bear came to the moshpit to try and help the elephant? And is still trying to after everything?

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Rise Against – Savior Lyrics 15 years ago
Dude okay guys time to comment on the music video, I think its clear that just from the lyrics it looks like a love song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8X3ACToii0

Now I don't know what its about, like "Wherabouts Unknown" I'd like to think its b/w 2 people from opposite ends of the political spectrum, and the whole "animal" costume reminds me of democrats and republicans.

"She said, 'I don't hate you boy
I just want to save while there's still something left to save!'
That's when I told her, 'I love you girl
But I'm not the answer for the questions that you still have'"

It fits and its sweet, they started with the same intentions but their paths made them enemies. It doesn't seem to have a religious message, maybe its just one person trying to reach out to another, in a world of hate and chaos.

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Rise Against – Whereabouts Unknown Lyrics 16 years ago
@ bathosdrift, amazing, at first I thought it was just about Tim looking for a new friend (maybe Chris) and telling him to come back, reminiscent to "Paper Wings", but your post made me go back and relook at the lyrics.

"As the hungry sails unfurl
We are thrusted from the shore
And its you that we search for"
They have become enemies, and its not a state of becoming indifferent like in "paper wings" or an actual hated enemy like "1000 good intentions", as their differences seem reconcilable, and they both seem to still be after the same "tainted crown of thorns". After your post I realized this is probably a religious choice vs. religious choice or a political choice vs. political choice.

Then I ventured on to think this may even be something like Republicans as a whole vs. Democrats as a whole, or something of that nature (as in, an entire political ideology is personified in this song, this example is not accurate since RA is not Democratic, in reality its like Anarchists vs. Liberatarians or something :P ).

And I disagree that this was a good album, I mean I couldn't care that much that they stopped screaming, I didn't like screaming in the first place, but the songs themselves have become worse. There's a HINT of musical theory evolution since Sufferer (it hasn't changed much at ALL though), but the melodies they choose are a lot worse than the ones they created earlier. Though its good that they are atleast still real punk, though I don't think they had much of a choice, their name being "rise against" and all, they couldn't become unpunk without a name change. Imagine Rise Against putting out an album called "heartaches and wet pillows"

I think the song that made them choose this style for this album ("But Tonight We Dance") was a far better song than anything on this album.
(lol and like deathadder said, can anyone decipher the morse code in the song :P )

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Rise Against – Re-Education (Through Labor) Lyrics 17 years ago
re-evaluation of this song after the video, this SONG is about the Chinese laborer rebelling and the video just made the rebellion take place in Chicago for whatever reason (would have been more effective to the meaning if it occurred in China but I guess it happening in the US is supposed to "hit close to home" and make us realize it could happen here. In the end they blow Chicago up.)

The song is a foreshadowing of what WILL happen in China and what may happen here if government becomes unfaithful to its people. The JFK quote in the beginning of the video sums up everything: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable." So no, Rise Against is NOT advocating terrorism...

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Rise Against – Re-Education (Through Labor) Lyrics 17 years ago
Ugh, dissapointed with this single, i've been following Rise Against for a while and this single displays very little progression from Suffer and the Witness, its a more refined sufferer and witness with notably better instrumentation, which we've already seen in "But Tonight We Dance." This song has a lot of similarities to but tonight we dance, meaning they didn't really progress past it, though thats kindof forgivable because they wrote that single after Sufferer and the Witness came out. I'm not expecting anything too spectacular from this album at all and Rise Against may have peaked musically which dims their prospect of them being the next Green Day (of which there was talk of when "Sufferer" came out), but I'll give them the benefit of a doubt and wait for the album to come out. The sound is reminiscent of Revolutions per Minute, but thats only because this album borrows much from The Sufferer and the Witness, and TSatW borrowed took some of its sound from RPM.

Ok, looking at the song itself without interference from their past works, its a solid song, but the end of the choruses drag a little. Whatever, Ready to Fall was definately worse than this song, and the album turned out ok. Oh and the lyrics are definately wrong, on the meaning, maybe it refers to China lol, i'll give a better interpretation when I have time.

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Thrice – Silver Wings Lyrics 17 years ago
AGH its NOT about god, if it was about god, ALL the elements would have to be referring to God, and I'm thinking it over 20 times in my head, there's no way fire can be referring to God, and if it is, its a stretch, because The Flame Deluge is about the manipulation of fire against its will, something that does NOT fit in with the Christian idea of God, who is omnipotent and all powerful.

Ironically, God can be seen as all the elements if you look at God in the Eastern perspective, which may have come from Teppei(even though I doubt this, because Teppei is Japanise, who don't EXACTLY believe in a God similar to the Buddhists and the Hindhus, and also it was Dustin who wrote the lyrics, not Teppei), is that God doesn't OWN everything, god IS everything, the Fire, Water, Earth, Air, Space, and Time. In this sense, everything in the universe is pure and unspoiled other than the animalistic and short-sighted urges that are created by our minds, and in this sense fire, and God for that matter, CAN be manipulated to reach our ends, and the purpose of eastern religions are to bring your mind to be one with the universe rather than fight it to reach short-term happiness.

Anyway, there IS something tying together all of the last songs in the EP. Mabye if we dig enough into each of them we can find the strings tying them together, such as the referrence Air makes to the Gales seen in "Kings of the Main." Mabye in the end, somehow, it IS all supposed to be God, who knows. Wouldn't surprise me, Dusting dealt his share of songs that can only have a Christian interpretation (such as "The Messenger")

Also, each of these ending songs' lyric page is a triangle with the lyrics on it, and the triangle is facing a different direction each time and has a different symbol in a circle in the middle of the triangle each time. If I'm not wrong, a cross for fire, a dot for water, a line for earth, and nothing for air. I wonder what happens when you stack all of the triangles and symbols on top of each other... mabye then we will have our answer. (I can't because I only own Fire & Water)

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Rise Against – Rumors Of My Demise Have Been Greatly Exaggerated Lyrics 17 years ago
ZOMG guys, like it was said in the "To them these streets belong" comments, Rise Against DOES NOT write lyrics that are hard to understand. I must admit, you had to do some digging to find the meaning of "To them these streets belong" but this song is very straight forward.

The verses (like many of this album's verses) talk about how horrible his life is, how the ones in the "system" don't understand and different metaphors for it.

PRECHORUS:
Straight forward, he doesn't want people to look back and be like "Oh look at all he's done" while ignoring the road thats left (like the death of MLK, when he died , the black civil rights movement was crippled).

"It's life that scares me to death"

Simply restating his life is full of adversity and the many pressures of a revolter/reformer/whatever.

CHORUS:
"I'll hold your hand if you hold mine.
The time that we kill keeps us alive."

you guys are looking WAY to deep here, this is just stating all of his/the revolters' hardships, the direness of the situation, and how its easier when your surrounded by people you love. The last line implies that the little things that they do in between revolting/fighting the man (such as joking around, going out, partying, etc.) is what keeps them alive, otherwise their underclass life would be unbearable.

BRIDGE:

Politicians don't help them and the politicians apparently planted the seeds for their own destruction, vague but I bet that it wasn't ever meant to have an exact meaning, like many Rise Against lyrics.
I'm posting the 2nd part of the bridge here because its flat out wrong as listed in this site.
"Hiding from the laughter in the closets of our lives,
But the door hinges are squeaking letting in thin shards of light.
And now a hand's extending outward,
Quiet comfort they invite,
Do we dare take what they offer?
Do we step into the light?"

This is the only hard to decipher part of the song, and I agree with Rise to Anthem that it means that theres a part of us that we repress "in the closet of our lives" (our unconscious?) because of its hardships that knowledge (The failings of society) forces us to endure. "Quiet comfort they invite" implies that we are deceived into thinking the road to one who sees the truth of society is an easy life OR it could mean that one who opens the closet WILL be comfortable because it will ease one's throbbing conscience.

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