| Minor Threat – Straight Edge Lyrics | 17 years ago |
| Sorry about the grammer and spelling errors in my response. I'm in a rush to get to work. They really need an edit button. :) | |
| Minor Threat – Straight Edge Lyrics | 17 years ago |
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MissNeurotic, when someone who is high/drunk hurts someone, it isn't the drug. No drug, except maybe alcohol, has been shown to cause violence. As for the car accident thing, blame the person, not the drug. It's just a small minority of people who get violent. By the way, I've seen people get extremely violent because of some sporting event. Players and spectators alike. Should we ban sports? Should we consider them evil too? I also had someone close to be die in a car accident 'cause some sober person fell asleep by hind the wheel. Should we ban driving to and from work because the person maybe to worn out and tired? Or maybe mandate that a person drives only after sleeping an X amount of time of sleep and also make it so people can't drive if they've been about after an X amount of time. Hell, why not just ban cares 'cause they do seem to be the common them and driving them is one of most dangerous thing a person can do on a daily base. Doesn't seems rational, right? But that's, right, it's okay to have double standards when it comes to drugs. I forgot. As for the addiction part - Did you realize most addicts would get by just fine if their drug of choice is legal? Of course drug addiction, like other addictions, can have negative impacts and ruin lives. But most people don't get addicted and most of those who do can get along just fine. Remember alcohol prohibition? Well, it didn't work, so what makes people think it will work with drug prohibition. Prohibition created most of the problems associated with drugs and worsens the previous existing problems. That has been very well documented and researched. Look, if you don't want to drink, smoke, and or do drugs (the former two are both drugs too, btw...), good for you. There is absolutely no problem with that. But don't go spewing around propaganda and don't go forcing you're beliefs on others. Drugs have been used since the beginning of time and they didn't become a problem until they were prohibited and then worsened by the "War on Drugs". Like I said, if you want to abstain, more power to you, but remember you have no right to tell other people want to to with their bodies. |
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| Tom Waits – Day After Tomorrow Lyrics | 17 years ago |
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taal 19 is correct. When you're overseas - especially in a place like, say, Iraq, where the landscape and culture is so different - you tend to miss the little things. Remember, when you're at war, you can't just do what want, when you want. You can't leave and you can't go about you're life as if you were a civilian at home. At times like those, you tend appreciate the little things that seem trivial. That's what Tom was talking about in the verse about Rockford. As for the song, to me it sounds anti-war in a sense. All this talk about them (the military) filling soldiers with lies, not knowing how to feel about the blood shed, not fighting for freedom or justice, how the other side doesn't want to die anymore then anyone else and how their essential the same when you get down to it. The twist in this song being that it's supposed to be from the perspective of solider, instead of a civilian. What many people seem to forget is that more often than not, soldiers are anti-war. You think they really want to kill and be put in the position to be killed? It's not easy, not fun, and not something most soldiers want to experience. People join the military usually for many different reasons and most of the time it's not because they love war and want to kill people, or everyones favorites, to defend and serve their country/freedom/justice. It's a paycheck, a chance at college, an opportunity to fly planes you normally wouldn't be able to fly, and so on. Above all it's a job and soldiers, whether their enlisted or officers, are just following orders. |
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| Minor Threat – Straight Edge Lyrics | 18 years ago |
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The problem I have with the whole straight edge thing isn't the actually no drinking, smoking, doing drugs (btw, alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine are all drugs, the former two being two of the most deadliest/toxic drugs), no promiscuous sex, it's the holy-than-thou attitude. The whole, "we don't do all that shit, so we must be smarter or have some sort of advandatge than you". The fucking moral higher ground is annoying (not saying this is how Ian McKaye and Minor Threat were or intend it to be). Then there's the whole thing about keeping you're body pure. Well, that great, bit I I wonder if they realize that many drugs aren't toxic and there are many things that are more dangerous than drugs out there (driving a car is about the most dangerous thing you can do on a daily basis). They don't like the propaganda the government spews, yet they have no problem believing the drug propaganda. You'd be surprised how many problems associated with drugs are actually a result of prohibition and the "war on drugs', and not the drugs themselves. You'd also be surprised how many people use drugs, while it not effecting them in a negative way. Many times, a person will be high and you won't even notice it (most people don't act like those stereotypes when high). The there's the "we don't need drugs to have fun", but they use the internet, computer, music, sports, etc to have fun. Yet somehow, those are less artificial than drugs? That's ridiculous, especially when you consider that all sorts of pleasure activities work on receptors in a similar way as drugs do. Have you any of you militant like straight edge kids stopped for second and thought, maybe drugs actually help peoples lives (I'm not only talking about psychoactive drugs that are prescribed by a doctor, I'm talking about people who have used illegal drugs to self medicate)? Because, there are many people that drugs have helped. You can say drugs have ruined peoples lives, but you can also say music, the TV, the computer/internet, sports, etc have also ruined peoples lives. Just like it's possible for those things to help people. Keep in mind, people can be addicted to none drug things and it can have the same negative affects (WoW addicts). Look, I have no problem if a person doesn't want to use drugs. If that's what they decided, than all the power to you. Don't do it to be cool or whatever. On the flip side, if you want to use drugs, do so because you truly want to use them, not to make yourself look cool either. But to put people down because of a personal choice that doesn't harm anyone else (and regardless of what propaganda says, drugs don't harm anyone else, only [sometimes] the users, just the same with many other things) is stupid. I'm pretty sure that was never Ian McKaye and Minor Threat intention. [And please, people, stop saying drugs kill brain cells. While that may be true in some cases, other things can kill brain cells to, including music (just a little side not, but cell phones and TV kill more brain cells than pot). How about some of you actually go look up some pharmacology and neuroscience before spewing all this drug propaganda that you learned in DARE or whatever. Did you know that heroin, LSD, pot, among some other drugs, are all non-toxic? How about the fact that almost all psychoactive drugs have some sort of medical value. The best pain killer, heroin is illegal. Ever lived with chronic pain? It literally makes you want to commit suicide, yet chronic pain patient can't access heroin (though there are other good pain killers currently available, like oxycodone [OxyContin], morphine, and some other - though doctors can be assholes when it comes to prescribing them - but sometimes a patient needs something stronger and more effective than those pain killers I listed), even though it could help them live a normal life. Or what about about a cancer patient that can't eat and is alway nauseated, that once again, it makes them want to kill themselves? Marijuana helps greatly, though it's illegally in many places, even for medical used. MDMA can help with post-traumatic street disorder. And that's just a few illegal drugs that have great medical value, there are many more. You straight-edge kids can talk all you want about not using drugs, even as medication, and how bad they are, but I'm betting you've never been in a situation where those drugs and medications are literally the difference between life and death. Where those drugs literally save lives.) Oh, one last thing, most people don't intend to get addiction. Many times it's because of lack of education on how things like addiction and tolerance works. Instead of banning drugs, maybe we educate people and allow them to make their own decisions. By saying that drugs should be illegal you are trying to control people's lives, and in the end, causing more harm than drugs do. Hypocrites? (Sorry for the double post, but typed this up real quick, so there were many spelling errors. I just wanted to correct those errors.) |
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| Minor Threat – Straight Edge Lyrics | 18 years ago |
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The problem I have with the whole straight edge thing isn't the actually no drinking, smoking, doing drugs (btw, alcohol, tabbacco, and caffeine are all drugs, the former two being two of the most deadliest/toxic drugs), no promciuous sex, it's the holy-than-thou attitude. The whole, "we don't do all that shit, so we must be smarter or have some sort of advandatge than you". The fucking moral higher ground is annoying (not saying this is how Ian McKaye and Minor Threat were or intend it to be). Then there's the whole thing about keeping you're body pure. Well, that great, bit I I wonder if they releaize that many drugs aren't toxic and there are many things that are more dangerous than drugs out there (driving a car is about the most dangerous thing you can do on a daily basis). They don't like the propanda the government spews, yet they have no problem believing the drug propaganda. You'd be suprised how many problems asscoiated with drugs are actually a result of prohibition and the "war on drugs', and not the drugs themselves. You'd also be suprised how many people use drugs, while it not effecting them in a negative way. Many times, a person will be high and you won't even notice it (most people don't act like those sterotypes when high). The there's the "we don't need drugs to have fun", but they use the interent, computer, music, sports, etc to have fun. Yet somehow, those are less artifical than drugs? That's ridiculuous, especially when you consider that all sorts of pleasure activites work on receptors in a similar way as drugs do. Have you any of you militant like straight edge kids stopped for second and thought, maybe drugs actually help peoples lives (I'm not only talking about psycoactive drugs that are prescibed by a doctor, I'm talking about people who have used illegal drugs to self medicate)? Because, there are many people that drugs have helped. You can say drugs have ruined peoples lives, but you can also say music, the tv, the computer/internet, sports, etc have also ruined peoples lives. Just like it's possible for those things to help people. Keep in mind, people can be addicted to none drug things and it can have the same negative affects (WoW addicts). Look, I have no problem if a person doesn't want to use drugs. If that's what they decided, than all the power to you. Don't do it to be cool or whatever. On the flip side, if you want to use drugs, do so because you truely want to use them, not to make yourself look cool either. But to put people down because of a personal choice that doesn't harm anyone else (and regardless of what propganda says, drugs don't harm anyone else, only [sometimes] the users, just the same with many other things) is stupid. I'm pretty sure that was never Ian McKaye and Minor Threat intention. [And please, people, stop saying drugs kill brain cells. While that may be true in some cases, other things can kill brain cells to, including music (just a little side not, but cell phones and tv kill more brain cells than pot). How about some of you actually go look up some pharmacology and neuroscience before spewing all this drug propganda that you learned in DARE or whatever. Did you know that heroin, LSD, pot, among some other drugs, are all non-toxic? How about the fact that almost all pyscoactive drugs have some sort of medical value. The best pain killer, heroin is illegal. Ever lived with chronic pain? It literally makes you want to commit suicide, yet chronic pain patient can't access heroin (though there are other good pain killers currently available, like oxycodone [OxyContin], morphine, and some other - though doctors can be assholes when it comes to precribng them - but sometimes a patient needs something stronger and more effective than those pain killers I listed), even though it could help them live a normal life. Or what about about a cancer patient that can't eat and is alway nauseated, that once again, it makes them want to kill themselves? Marijuana helps greatly, though it's illegally in many places, even for medical used. MDMA can help with post-traumatic street disorder. And that's just a few illegal drugs that have great medical value, there are many more. You straight-edge kids can talk all you want about not using drugs, even as medication, and how bad they are, but I'm betting you've never been in a situation where those drugs and medications are literally the difference between life and death. Where those drugs literally save lives.) Oh, one last thing, most people don't intend to get addiction. Many times it's because of lack of education on how things like addiction and tolerance works. Instead of banning drugs, maybe we ecducate people and allow them to make their own decisions. By saying that drugs should be illegal you are trying to control people's lives, and in the end, causing more harm than drugs do. Hypocrites? |
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