| M. Ward – Poison Cup Lyrics | 17 years ago |
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"A sip or a spoonful won't do, cuz I want it all" so this has nothing to do with drugs or alcohol? |
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| Bright Eyes – Reinvent the Wheel Lyrics | 17 years ago |
| Well for what it's worth, I edited the Elliott Smith article on wikipedia. There is a section towards the bottom that lists songs that have been written about Smith or in honor of. I added some information about this particular song possibly being about Smith as well. I covered the fact that it's all just speculation, but I encourage anyone to make it better/more accurate. | |
| Bright Eyes – Reinvent the Wheel Lyrics | 17 years ago |
| I strongly strongly strongly feel and hope that this song is about Elliott Smith. I think you all have made great points. Also, the line about 'boys fashioning their feelings', remember that maybe the boys around YOUR particular social construct dont emulate (or even acknowledge) elliott smith, but in the circles that Oberst frequents, I can see this line applying to alot of his peers. Blake Sennett comes to mind. I can't even imagine how many 'opening acts' Conor has met who blatantly rip off or emulate Smith. So again, I think every line of the song might actually be apllicable to this theory. I sure hope so, when I found out Rilo Kiley's (Sennett) 'Ripchord' was about Smith, it took the song to a different level. | |
| Arcade Fire – Intervention Lyrics | 17 years ago |
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| Arcade Fire – Intervention Lyrics | 17 years ago |
| Tooch makes a good point, but his general objection is a bit flawed. The song itself was written quite some time ago, and quite a few reputable sources have mentioned Butler spreading messege of the Haitian proverb at various performances (even before Funeral made it's splash). I can see how figuring out the origin of the proverb, coupled with the wikipedia detective work could lead you to prematurely connect dots. But again, the fact is, Sak Vide pa Kanpe was did not make its debut on SNL and does not reflect the song's meaning in anyway. Thats like saying that Elliott Smith wrote "Waltz #2(XO)" because he was inspired by the comedy of Steve Martin. (If you missed the reference, when Elliott Smith performed on SNL with host Lucy Lawless, he played the aforementioned track of his album XO, while wearing a vintage t-shirt with the image of Steve Martin. The shirt was worn as a way of paying homage to Martin) | |
| Arcade Fire – Intervention Lyrics | 17 years ago |
| Tooch makes a good point, but his general objection is a bit flawed. The song itself was written quite some time ago, and quite a few reputable sources have mentioned Butler spreading messege of the Haitian proverb at various performances (even before Funeral made it's splash). I can see how figuring out the origin of the proverb, coupled with the wikipedia detective work could lead you to prematurely connect dots. But again, the fact is, Sak Vide pa Kanpe was did not make its debut on SNL and does not reflect the song's meaning in anyway. Thats like saying that Elliott Smith wrote "Waltz #2(XO)" because he was inspired by the comedy of Steve Martin. (If you missed the reference, when Elliott Smith performed on SNL with host Lucy Lawless, he played the aforementioned track of his album XO, while wearing a vintage t-shirt with the image of Steve Martin. The shirt was worn as a way of paying homage to Martin) | |
| Arcade Fire – Intervention Lyrics | 17 years ago |
| Tooch makes a good point, but his general objection is a bit flawed. The song itself was written quite some time ago, and quite a few reputable sources have mentioned Butler spreading messege of the Haitian proverb at various performances (even before Funeral made it's splash). I can see how figuring out the origin of the proverb, coupled with the wikipedia detective work could lead you to prematurely connect dots. But again, the fact is, Sak Vide pa Kanpe was did not make its debut on SNL and does not reflect the song's meaning in anyway. Thats like saying that Elliott Smith wrote "Waltz #2(XO)" because he was inspired by the comedy of Steve Martin. (If you missed the reference, when Elliott Smith performed on SNL with host Lucy Lawless, he played the aforementioned track of his album XO, while wearing a vintage t-shirt with the image of Steve Martin. The shirt was worn as a way of paying homage to Martin) | |
| Arcade Fire – Intervention Lyrics | 17 years ago |
| First of all, I want to commend 'forevor doomed' for his Where in the World is Carmen San Diego gumshoe skills. I also jumped online after their performance hoping to find the meaning of 'sak vide pa kanpe', right before Weekend Update started. I basically found it written down verbatim as a way of referring to "Famine". So I guess we are both on the right track. Anyway, an earlier poster named Morgan said something along the lines of: "The song is not about Bush or the war, the Arcade Fire are NOT a political band: see Funeral", This is the worst and most underdeveloped logic one can use in this day and age. When bands sit in an empty room and have to start writing new material for highly anticipated albums, BELEIVE ME, they are racking their brains on what to write about. Current events that are drastically effecting the world we all live in (i.e. War for oil) are one of the many topics that would push an artist to express himself through song. I wont detail what I think the song is about, because I strongly adhere the Bush/War theory, and I have facts to make my point. I just feel that it would lead to a political flame war and divert attention to this wonderful song. All in all, its not hard to see what this song is about, the Arcade Fire can't just come out and write a song like "When The President Talks to God" by Bright Eyes, Besides, that wouldnt be their style, but this sure as hell is and it's fucking brilliant. | |
| Rilo Kiley – Ripchord Lyrics | 17 years ago |
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Yes, the song is about Elliott Smith and so is "It Just Is" (wikipedia's Elliott page should be proof enough, because it lists many other tributes to him, this being one of the best in my opinion). Whoever mentioned the Lewis-Smith muse thing, is also dead on, same with the person who said alot of More Adventurous has to do with Elliott. Blake and Jenny are big fans and so are alot of the Omaha crew (conor, azure ray, tilly and the wall and all the Park Ave people for that matter etc etc etc). It should also be noted that the line "so cmon kid, look at what you did" is a reference to "Needle in The Hay". Also, aot of this circle (Omaha scene) uses the word "kid" in context when referring to each other and their drug problems (see: Lua by Bright Eyes). Whoever mentioned the talented Jeff Buckley should listen to "Memphis Skyline" by Rufus Wainwright if you are lookin for a Buckley tribute. Some other notable Elliott inspired tracks: "Late" by Ben Folds (Songs for Silverman) "Mr. Smith Goes to Heaven" by Earlimert (lead singer LOVED elliott and mimicks him quite often) "You, Me and a Knife" by theSTART I am a huge Elliott Smith fan and I would love to help anyone with questions in any way that I can. I am actually currently writing a play that is to Elliott Smith what Gus Van Sant's "Last Days" was to Kurt Cobain. On a sidenote, Van Sant (also a musician) was one of Elliotts biggest fans, hence the Good Will Hunting stint. if you all have a myspace, hit me up sometime. www.myspace.com/IvanxDurham |
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| Stone Temple Pilots – Interstate Love Song Lyrics | 18 years ago |
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WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!! -ok, now that I acted like an a-hole and got attention, listen. The following is EXACTLY what this particular scott weiland song is about. Ok? So stop. It's not about leaving a liar. At all. You guys don't get it. Here you go... "Waiting, on a sunday afternoon for what I read between the lines, your lies." -This is supposed to be read from his fiance Janina Castaneda's point of view. She had been with scott for a while, yes, even the Shirley Temple Pussy days, and they had been engaged right before STP was supposed to record their album "Purple". This line is about Janina waiting to talk to him knowing the subject of his heroin use would come up, since she had read the signs 'inbetween the lines'. "Feeling like a hand in ruusted shame, so do you laugh at those who cry? reply." -This is taken from Weiland's point of view, stating his regret and shame for using while promising to stay clean. He obviously had quite a few teary eyed converations with her pleading his case, and as a result might have really been hurt by her fed up manner of laughing those promises off. "Leaving on a souther train, only yesterday you lied." -The southern train was an expression for the trip he was currently making with the band down to Atlanta to record their album "Purple". He had been lying to his fiance over the phone telling her he wasn't using, even though he found it very hard to write lyrics that remained satisfactory in his psyche after the high wore off. This song was penned as a result of this constant battle of wanting to be clean and honest, but failing and having to lie about it. "Promises of what I seemed to be, only watch the time, go by. All of these, things he said to me" -All of the illusions and dreams he had convinced Janina of before they were engaged are coming back to haunt him because he realizes that has has become nothing more than an empty promise. Every time he fucks up, is another 'day 1', and he acknowledges that the time is not going to stop passing, and she will undoubtedly walk away. 'All of these things he said to me', is a return to Janina's point of view. This is her reflecting on how many times she has been lied to, and scott is brilliant about giving her a fair right to be upset with him. He acknowledges what he continues to put her through. "Breathing is the hardest thing to do with all i've said and all that's dead for you. You lied. Goodbye." -Scott is telling her that the very act of existing (breathing) is the most impossible task he faces every day, after all the lies and broken promises he has made to keep her at arms length and actually believing in the promising, yet, abstract idea of Scott as a clean, successful, rock and roll star who needs her as his wife to be complete. 'With all that's dead to you', let's the listener know that she has not only reached her limit, but she has actually used those words to describe what no longer lives inside of her. Scott wouldn't choose the word 'dead' to refer to anything he might share with her, an addict never rules out any small recurring hope he might have with someone he deems to be 'special'. This was probably taken from a shattering conversation, where in tears, maybe she told him his pipe dream of being a rock star and having her along for the ride was dead for her. Remember, this was written on the way to record the album that was sent to radio stations to pump through your lives. He was not the rock and roll icon he is low, I can gaurantee that at the time of the arguements and demons that inspired Scott to write this song, he was nowhere in sight as far as America's rock and roll lexicon is concerned. This song is my favorite because it really shows you how Scott was so lost in addiction that he had to write a song in honor of Janina's loyalty to his promises. Breaking a girl's heart and not being able to keep promises because something is consuming you, is only made more difficult when she cares to much to just walk away. Scott and Janina married eventually, but filed for divorce later on. Scott went to jail for a bit and came out to marry a super model and get caught on two different tours buying crack-cocaine, and heroin. He is currently a mega star with Velvet Revolver and has recently joined Camp Freddy. IvanXDurham |
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