| Patti Smith – Land: Horses/Land of a Thousand Dances/La Mer(de) Lyrics | 19 years ago |
| I don't think it's so much a scene by scene sort of story, symbolic or otherwise. There's a lot to it. The point is that it's mesmerizing and the song itself sort of sucks you in and surrounds you with so much imagery. The first lines that are said cause this confusion that builds and builds upon itself and the song takes you places out of nowhere right when the trance gets started. I think that sound and the way the pressure of the song builds up is as important as the words. I think the song is supposed to feel like how Johnny feels surrounded by horses. The content is describing all these episodes of transcendence. A beating, dancing, sex, etc. The music and Patti's voice together give you a sort of taste of what these things can be like. . . | |
| Sufjan Stevens – John Wayne Gacy, Jr. Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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"Oh yeah hasbulelias we should totally just block out one of Sufjan's main writing subjects, and the fact that he says "God," and instead assume he's talking about something with absolutely no relation to religion. I think after that we should insult anyone who has any religious beliefs, because you're obviously right and far more knowledgeable than any other person in the world. " Religion, God and Spirituality are seperate subjects that are SOME of the time interrelated. This entire debate about God and Religion and Spirituality lessens this song. It's beauty is in the simplicity of its message. . . |
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| Sufjan Stevens – John Wayne Gacy, Jr. Lyrics | 19 years ago |
| p.s: jakegpy...bless you, you got it. | |
| Sufjan Stevens – John Wayne Gacy, Jr. Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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Raindog, I find it fun that you think I have a 'twisted aversion to a spiritual interpretation'. My idea of spirituality is based in humanity. Spirit is something in all of us and what connects us all to each other. Therefor this is a deeply spiritual song because Sufjan feels a connection to Gacy because there is no denial that Gacy was human. My problem is the exclusively religious interpretation.The song is so raw and beautiful and human and spiritual that its message is lessened by people telling Sufjan he's not a thing like Gacy. My spirituality differs from yours, but that doesn't male me twisted. |
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| Sufjan Stevens – John Wayne Gacy, Jr. Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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raindog: I'm not saying the piece shouldn't or doesn't have meaning. I think it's insulting for this people to go "Well what Sufjan meant when he wrote this was...". That's assigning meaning to a piece that none of us had a hand in making. It's fine to say, "To me this song is a message of fatih and Christianity." That is the meaning of an art piece to the person who sees it. I just think there is something wrong with saying the artist meant something or the artist feels a certain way if you don't truly know that he or she does. Please don't ask me to embrace anything. My faith is my business and I don't try to inflict or impress it upon others or other things. |
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| Sufjan Stevens – John Wayne Gacy, Jr. Lyrics | 20 years ago |
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Miss Misery, and all you other people so intent on slapping lables and crap on this song, can we not, for two seconds, consider this song as A PIECE OF ART? Why does it have to have five million different meanings? I honestly and firmly believe that this song has nothing to do with being Christian or evil or Mr. Stevens' stance on God and the Devil. As a Christian he is certainly INFLUENCED by his faith but he's not writing the bible--every line in every song is not divinely inspired. This is a beautiful, twisted song on its own. Why can't iot just be a song about a boy identifying with a serial killer? That isn't Christian or Godly or anything, it's just human, it's empathetic. There doesn't need to be a message. The song is a work of art. Can we stop stomping on it? |
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| Sufjan Stevens – John Wayne Gacy, Jr. Lyrics | 20 years ago |
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OKAY: BurnOneDown, you are most assuredly thinking of "The Scarlet Letter", indeed a crappy book, but not "The Crucibal". Kiwifruit, "oh my God" in this case (as I understand it) most nearly means something along the lines of "holy crap, could it be, what the hell?". An expression of sadness. "Oh my God" is a phrase. "Oh, my God," is an address. Mistrient, I think you hit the nail on the head. "I think it's just that everyone feels disgusting sometimes, even though they don't show it. Bad thoughts run through their mind, or bad memories where they did something wrong, and they feel just as disgusting as this demented serial killer was." Here is the point of the song, as I see it, almost exactly. God, Christianity, Spirituality, etc, doesn't enter in strongly when trying to figure this song. It's more emotive than spiritual. That's my opinion anyway. |
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| Sufjan Stevens – John Wayne Gacy, Jr. Lyrics | 20 years ago |
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lichty Lichty: Gacy didn't lure his victims by dressing up like a clown; he volunteered at a children's hospital where he dressed as a clown to entertain them: "He dressed up like a clown for them With his face paint white and red" "The neighbors they adored him For his humor and his conversation" Gacy had neighbor's who were this elderly couple; he was famous for throwing big parties and bar-b-ques and everyone really liked him. He also did a lot of volunteer work. "Look underneath the house there Find the few living things, rotting fast, in their sleep" Reference to the crawl space where most of the bodies were found. There were a few more scattered around the property. Also, when he was younger, I think Gacy had a fascination with dead animals (but that might be Dahmer, too, people often get them confused). "He put a cloth on their lips, quiet hands, quiet kiss on the mouth" Most of his victims died while Gacy raped them, from choking on the underware, socks or papertowels that were shoved in their mouths as gags. The point being: Gacy did some terrible, horrible things and no one really suspected him. Lots of his employees, young boys, went missing and no one really thought too long or too hard that it might be him. In this song there are references to truly awful things but they are described poetically to a background of delicate music. Unless one knew the full story, it would cross the mind that maybe this isn't such a lovely piece of work after all. It's a wonderful gorgeous song about something horrific. Therein lies its greatness. As for the line "I am really just like him", which seems to be the controversy, hasn't anyone sympathized with a killer? Hasn't anyone been reading about serial killers and felt maybe they could identify with the dark urges? Personally, there are times when, reading about a serial killer's description, or the motive, or the things that lead up to their particular perversion, I think, I've thought the same thing on more than one occasion. I think everyone at one time or another thinks the same sort of thing. It doesn't make the person sick or weird. It's common to have similar feelings as other people. Perhaps that's the case here? All in all I don't think it is literal or a great big Christian double-meaning. It's poetic liscense. |
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| Sufjan Stevens – Decatur, or Round of Applause for Your Stepmother! Lyrics | 20 years ago |
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I think I fell in love with this song, simply because of: "Steven A. Douglas was a great debater, But Abraham Lincoln was the great emancipator" I had been listening to it on the radio and not really paying attention and then that line came out of NOWHERE; it was a done-deal, it became my new favorite song. Then I bought the album and now I am in love with Mr. Stevens. The song just WORKS because it's descriptive and informative without being dry. Plus, the glockenspiel (sp??)...well, nuff said bout that. |
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| Kings of Leon – Razz Lyrics | 20 years ago |
| I don't think these lyric are correct... | |
| Kings of Leon – Soft Lyrics | 20 years ago |
| I'm kept hearing these lyrics wrong, espescially the last line. 'I'd come all over your party'....what I kept hearing was 'I'd come all over your BODY'...which actually makes a bit more sense. I dunno, someone help. | |
| Kings of Leon – Four Kicks Lyrics | 20 years ago |
| I'm pretty sure it is Hoffman, a proper noun, and it's about picking a fight out of boredom, as clear as I can figure it. Hoffman could be a cowboy.. 'Red man's fire in his eyes' is a reference to Native Americans. But the song is great no matter what the first word may be. | |
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