| Vanessa Carlton – White Houses Lyrics | 18 years ago |
| Great song. The music video is pretty badass. Check it out. | |
| Simple Plan – Welcome to My Life Lyrics | 18 years ago |
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This song should be retitled "The Teenage Angst Anthem." I seriously thought this was a joke the first time I heard it... Grow up and listen to some real music. |
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| Tool – Parabola Lyrics | 18 years ago |
| God... Danny Carey is badass... | |
| Avril Lavigne – Girlfriend Lyrics | 18 years ago |
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Wow, it's sad that so many kids listen to this song. Tell me, is it so wrong to prefer someone who likes books rather than "rocking" out on the same three frets on your guitar? What's wrong with someone who wears glasses or has red hair? This song only affirms the fact that its listeners are idiots. I honestly thought Avril would die out when punk started to die out... unfortunately, I was wrong... What is this song trying to say? Is it perhaps saying that kids who believe in this type of pseudo-"nonconformity" are no better than the very preppy kids they hate? They exclude, judge, and make fun of others as much as, if not moreso, those same preppy kids. Sorry if I prefer a girl who reads and can actually form a sentence without lol and who can hold a conversation about something more meaningful than the gossip she hears from school. And sorry I don't prefer a girl who's a slave to trends. Avril's a moron for making such a song and video to accompany it, and you're all morons for buying into it. Go ahead and try to defend this piece of shit excuse for a song... |
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| Alanis Morissette – Ironic Lyrics | 18 years ago |
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Wow... I'm sorry for bringing up the irony issue again, but I just couldn't pass up the last post... MuminPL, no, the song is not ironic. It's misfortunate, it's coincidental, but ultimately not ironic. Consider if the wedding had been in Seattle, and they moved the wedding to let's say the Sahara Desert just to avoid the rain, but it ends up raining in the Sahara anyway. That would be ironic. As for the traffic-jam, I think Ed Byrne puts it best... "There's nothing ironic about being stuck in a traffic jam when you're late for something. Unless you're a town planner. If you were a town planner and you were on your way to a seminar of town planners at which you were giving a talk on how you solved the problem of traffic congestion in your area, couldn't get to it because you were stuck in a traffic jam, that'd be, well, ironic." (Referenced from wikipedia) Do you see what I mean? The true irony here is that within a song titled "Ironic" there is no irony... And who gives a woman who can't sing or distinguish between irony and coincidence a record deal? |
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| Green Day – American Idiot Lyrics | 18 years ago |
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...And this discussion digresses... I think it's about time we gave this American Idiot nonsense up, no? 2,300+ comments is a lot of repetitive bullshit, don't you think? Regardless of how innovative your post may be, it's already been said before; you'll be way ahead of the game if you just drop it and let this band die out on its own. Like many of you, I despise Green Day with every inch of my being, but I've already argued long enough on this topic. Okay, if you believe that Green Day is the 2nd coming of the Beatles, great. Believe whatever you want, until you turn 33 and become a corporate slave, selling your soul for $17 an hour, like the rest of us. Every generation has their fad band... let this one pollute young minds and die out like the rest... But most importantly... Let it do it on its own. |
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| Steve Vai – For the Love of God Lyrics | 18 years ago |
| I can't believe there's only 8 comments on this song... kind of shows you the state of mind people have on music today... kind of sad really... | |
| My Chemical Romance – I'm Not Okay (I Promise) Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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"Hi, I'm a silly, self-righteous emo kid. I have the audacity to believe that my genre of music is superior to others and believe (without merit) that my genre has the more emotion than any other genre out there. I deal with teenage angst like a 5 year old. I MUST be the first person in history to deal with the loss of a loved one, breaking up with a HIGH SCHOOL boyfriend or girlfriend, and not fitting in in high school. How ELSE should I deal with this!? I mean, I can deal with my problems like a real person, instead I have to dye my hair black, cut myself, and dress the way ALL other emos dress to feel like a REAL individual. And while I'm at it, since I listen to emo, that gives me every right to be considered a great poet. I mean, forget the fact that my peoms don't correlate and have a rhyme scheme of aabb, or abab, or my personal favorite, NO rhyme scheme. I have successfully attained the poetic ability of a 2nd grader. And forget about the music, I don't even know the notes that are played. I mean, I couldn't care less that 98% of all emo songs are in a 4/4 time scale, hell, I don't even know what that is, lol!" In all seriousness, you're all dumbfucks in my book... No, you're not being persecuted, so put the razors down. No, I'm not doing this because it's the "in" thing to do, and no, I'm not from "the scene" (which might be the dumbest phrase ever uttered in human history. How you defend this garbage, I will never know, but the fact that this passing fad (and yes, it IS a passing fad, can anyone here HONESTLY say that they're going to emo for life? I think not...) is gaining so much attention is alarming and umeritted. Why? Let me start with my most compelling argument. Emo bands are sell-outs and their music is unhealthy for young people (i.e. junior high school students and high school students, like everyone who's posted on this thread). Emo music, like this song, promotes thoughts of self-mutilation, depressing, and suicide, all of which are a lot like your sexuality. As you're more exposed to it, the more comfortable you become with it. Now, think hard emo kids, would a band that cares about its listeners want to promote such a message? No. So, why do they put it out there? Money. Emo bands are sell-outs. Please, do NOT pretend like they are unaware of what their listeners take part in. Secondly... This isn't music. These are twangy, poorly written riffs, with only their vocals to attempt to carry it. Because that's all we care about now, isn't it? The vocals of a song are all people hear anymore, forget abou the MUSIC associated with it; it doesn't matter. Why do I make such a big deal about time signatures and decent guitar playing? Because it's music. There was a time when emotion was conveyed through the NOTES, not the vocals. Please, go listen to Steve Vai - For The Love Of God, and you'll understand. Your bands should be MUSICIANS first, not symbols. Creativity is at a premium in today's mainstream, and yes, emo IS mainstream. Your best writers/vocalists are Brent Smith, Corey Taylor, and Maynard James Keenan. Your guitarists - Clapton, Hendrix, Hammet, Tremonti, Donais, Dimebag, Frusciante, Todd, Vai, Vaughn, among others Drummers - Paul Bostaph, Joey Jordison, Danny Carey, Dave Lombardo Bassists - Flea, McArtney, Jones, Butler, Claypool, and Chambers Notice how no emo band members make the cut? For good reason... Expand your horizons and start thinking for yourself. Realize that grief and depression are just aspects of growth and EVERYONE experiences them, why should yours be treated so special? Stop being self-righteous, stop being elitist. There are options other than cutting yourself. And you're not real individuals either. If you label yourself with a group, then you're not the individuals you are, you're not as unique as you might have once thought. Quick question. How many adults would consider themselves emo? ...Time's up. None. And why? Simply put, it's childish and goes without merit. You've too much time on your hands... Figure it out. |
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| My Chemical Romance – I'm Not Okay (I Promise) Lyrics | 19 years ago |
| How do you people defend this shit? | |
| Green Day – American Idiot Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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Green Day fans continue to impress... Immigrants is the word, and exactly how are they taking over our country? (Enlighten me, I'd love to hear your response, so I can shoot it down.) Oh, almost forgot, exactly how is this song "amazingly complex" as well? I'm dying to hear your answers, oh wise and powerful high school students... or less. |
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| KoЯn – Twisted Transistor Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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Well... let's review... Why do many believe Korn has sold out? Well, many, like myself, are disgusted with their new album and everything associated with it. Losing Head was the worst thing that could have happened to Korn. The members of Korn agree that Head was the most talented among them. Hell, I wouldn't even categorize this into nu-metal (the worst genre of music on the planet). The rift between Take A Look in the Mirror and See You on the Other Side is too great to be natural. Korn, with the departure of Head, isn't quite as able to appeal to their former audience. So, they employ other efforts to sell albums. They're trying to appeal to a hip-hop type audience now. Comin' Undone Wit It is evidence of this. Many of Korn's "new" fans I've met seem to be totally unaware that Korn has been around for as long as they have. I realize that they've lost a guitarist, in fact, their best, but I would have respected them more if they had stayed with the formula that got them here. I realize many call this creativity, but the way they have employed these new methods is so run-of-the-mill and conventional that it screams of selling out. And why am I instantly labeled as anti-Korn? Me criticizing Korn does not mean that I have abandoned and hate them, I want them to imporve, that's why I'm criticizing. Korn needs to go back to their roots, preferrably Issues, but... Something tells me their new album will be just as bad as this one... |
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| My Chemical Romance – I'm Not Okay (I Promise) Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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| My Chemical Romance – Helena Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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Better use of line breaks would be greatly appreciated... Due to bad spacing, I only caught part of your argument, basically the most important part... "My age shouldn't matter." Yes, yes, it does... whether you understand that or not... I'm not claiming that I know everything this world has to offer, but I think as someone of your age you should know your place. I think that's the problem with a lot of youth today, at least the rebellious ones. Many kids think they know more than their parents... While this couldn't be farther from the truth, I think it shows in many other forms, such as we see here. Your parents are only looking out for your well-being, heed their words, for they are FAR more intelligent than you. Now back to the argument... As a 13 year old, forgive me, but you have yet to attain something I like to call "maturity." As a mature, reasoning adult, you see through things like My Chemical Romance. How many adults today would group themselves with emo? Not many, I assure you, and that's for good reason... I hate to bring sex into this, but I think it has to be said, but... Emo DOES, in fact, appeal more to females. Why? Well, as a member of a society that demands perfection for females in almost every aspect, many have a low self-esteem. Many turn to music like My Chemical Romance because of this... I'll leave you with this... Life is a journey. It's full of mountains, rivers, and other obstacles on your way to your ultimate destination. There are many paths, all leading to a final destination. While growing up, there are many chioces or paths you will encounter. For these, you must use your ability to reason and your ethics to decide which path is best suited for you. While I can see your situation and your thought process, I do not think My Chemical Romance is good for you... I understand that you've had hardship in your life, everyone has, and I hate to use this overused saying, but I don't think it applies any better than in this situation... "That's life." That is life. The difficulties and obstacles will always be there, but you have to make your way through them and not give into things or believing in things like My Chemical Romance, a band that plays on the emotions of teenagers to make money. While everyone is impressionable to an extent while they are young, you should at least consider and be able to defend such indulgences. Why do many kids wear what they do, act how they do, listen to what they do? I can ask why you dyed your hair red and black, and nobody seems to have a real explanation. It's not creativity or an extention of yourself when done solely because your music tells you to. It's not creativity or an extention of yourself when 100,000 other kids do the same exact thing... Think about everything you indulge in, use your ability to reason to see through things like this. I know you can do it... |
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| Linkin Park – Somewhere I Belong Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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To Ddadutta and anyone else who hates Linkin Park... You're right, I'm not going to argue Brad Delson's guitar playing. He is terrible and lacks creativity. However... If you listen to Linkin Park for a Metallica-esque guitar solo, you're listening for the wrong reasons. While many argue that Linkin Park songs sound a lot alike, like Crawing-Easier to Run, By Myself-Figure.09, Pushing Me Away-Numb, the same can be said about a lot of bands, including Metallica. While Master of Puppets is my favorite album, it draws some frighteningly close parallels to Ride The Lightning. Does this make me hate the album? No, absolutely not. I'm an avid metal fan, and for the most part, I hate nu-metal/rapcore type crap that comes out, like Limp Bizkit, Saliva, etc. But Linkin Park will always be towards to the top of my favorite bands list. Why? Linkin Park writes some truly amazing lyrics, take this song for instance. A full spectrum of emotion, ranging from frustration, loneliness, anger, and love... and believe me when I say that Linkin Park is one of the hardest working bands on the planet. The type of rap they incorporate is a breath of fresh air from the crap that's spewed out everyday on the radio waves. You never hear Mike ever talk about sex, drugs, or gang violence, now do you? Chester and Mike's vocals mesh perfectly, and as for creativity... Do me a favor and not listen to the guitar for a moment, which is a very odd request coming from me (take a look at my favorites), but just try, okay? I'm very aware that the guitar, bass, and drums of Linkin Park are not up to par, but it isn't what they strive for... Linkin Park's new album comes out in Spring of '07, it's supposed to be a change of pace, going to a more melodic, classic rock type influence, that might be more of your cup of tea. And I truly believe... That their new album will alienate a lot of their fans, and more musicians will come to appreciate Linkin Park... just my thoughts... Continue. |
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| Green Day – American Idiot Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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I would respect this argument if it wasn't worthless... "If simple music is as sucky as you make it out to be Korean, all those PBS shows I watched as a kid must be pretty bad. I guess Mr. Rogers can't even begin to compare with Metallica or Pantera" Brilliant... an analogy between music and educational children's television shows. Why are they simple? Possibly because they're children's television shows, emphasis on children. While we're at it, I think we should have all pre-schoolers write a plot synopsis of To Kill A Mockingbird. Don't believe everything you read on Wikipedia, it's not the end all to end all. Metal originated from bands like Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Sieger, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, AC/DC, Guns N' Roses, and evolved into the genre it is today. Believe me when I say I respect all older punk. The gray area begins when the formula for success is used over and over again. Concurrently, this is also true for the metal subgenres. Bands like Drowning Pool, Three Days Grace, Earshot, etc. Most of the nu-metal genre and some of the alt. metal genre is total crap. I despise these bands as much as I hate Green Day and refuse to defend them. The same can be said about most death metal, hair metal, doom metal (with the exception of early Black Sabbath) is total crap as well. I won't support bands like Cannibal Corpse, Goatwhore, Gwar, or Mayhem. But this isn't the argument... You're going to sit there and defend your pathetic punk bands of today? There are no redeemable subgenres, and the mainstream pollutes American youth as much as hip-hop and rap of today. Go listen to some Tool, Nevermore, and In Flames, maybe you'll get it... |
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| Green Day – American Idiot Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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Wow, listen to yourself. "music is supposed to be fun" Sure, entertainment is an aspect of music. However, music is also a form of art, an extension of oneself, if you will. Billy down the street sure loves to paint... but he hasn't quite reached the level of Da Vince quite yet, but he sure has fun. Now let's connect the dots... Painting, like music, is a form of art. The BEST and most CREATIVE rise to the top, while others flounder. Shouldn't the same hold true for music? The answer is a resounding yes... However... Unlike music, art critics, students, and teachers are very well seasoned in evaluating a piece of art's greatness. Music, on the other hand, is filled with a lot of people like yourself... Now try your hardest to follow the next analogy I'm going to make... What if art's following was similar to music? Well, Billy just painted his best picture EVER. Some pathetic landscape with... oh, let's say a 10 color scheme with poor shadowing, etc. Yet, Billy's friends, who aren't artistically inclined, think it's the greatest damn piece of art they've ever seen. The piece of art is put on display all over the world and overshown, until the world has gotten its fill and lose interest. While at the same time, Van Gogh is sitting on that same street, creating a masterpiece. But not everyone sees Van Gogh's work for how great it is. People criticize it for being "dark" and "dreary" and don't fully comprehend what makes this so great. The same holds true for music of today. It sounds great, well maybe... because after hearing a few Van Goghs, you kind of start wanting to hear more stuff of that quality. Sure, there are simple art types, but more thought than usually given credit for is put forth. The same can't be said for this genre or most other genres I find my generation to be fans of, when they use the same formula time and time again, simple because... It sells... Your music should MEAN something, and when I say that, I DON'T mean that your music should SHAPE your beliefs or try to tell you what is right (cool) or wrong. Music should provoke thought, like what I'm trying to do here. You should be able to defend your genre in every aspect on an intellectual level, NOT just that it sounds sweet. Can you do that? Apparently not, considering you've already caved that your genre cannot even begin to compare with others on a MUSICAL level. ...The most important aspect. |
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| My Chemical Romance – Helena Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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Just let the little 13 year old be... I'd rather you not figure out that life doesn't work this way through trial and error, but you're gonna stick to your guns... however misguided... Just... let's clarify one thing... "Gerard's lyrics have improved, Ray plays the fuck out of the guitar, Bob kicks ass at the drums, Frank is a totally cool guiatr player, and Mikey rocks the bass forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Please, insert foot in mouth before making a statement like that. It's better to have others think you're an idiot than to speak and remove all doubt. No, My Chemical Romance will always remain a mediocre band with mediocre to poor talent. But anyway... Hold onto your beliefs for as long as you can, because I can guarantee that in two years you won't think the same. Have fun! |
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| Green Day – American Idiot Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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Not exactly "brainwash" you per se, but I think you'd appreciate bands such as them more so, which I think would cause you to lose a massive amount of respect for Green Day. Throw Pantera in there for good measure. |
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| Blink-182 – All the Small Things Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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"better than maiden and metallica yes you sarcastic wanka if punk wanted to be matal they wud be but have more sense than to think there good playing scales and thinking they llok good shredding ha ha fags not to mantion the fact double bass actually sounds like a helicopter taking off and why the fuck do they need so many drums tell you why cos there shti and cant hit a small kit so they have loadz of drums if they miss they still have another to smash no catchy light drums for matal heads no the long hair blocks the sound of anything light so heavy bang duurrrrrrh bang on the drums well done for criticising blink cos metal will never be as good as punk" Considering I never mentioned metal, I'm not sure where this argument came from... Are you actually comparing Kirk Hammet and Adrian Smith to... Tom DeLonge? Quite possibly the most pathetic guitarist I've ever heard... Ok, defend your pathetic little pop/punk band against Clapton and Hendrix, since metal doesn't seem to be your niche. You just rambled about drums the entire post... What was your point? Danny Carey, Joey Jordison, and Dave Lombardo could rape Travis Barker. Considering I'm a drummer, and I'm sensing your not, great argument. Because let's face it, your precious pop/punk will never be as good as metal. Black Sabbath - Blink 182 Metallica - Green Day Iron Maiden - Good Charlotte Tool - NOFX Pantera - All-American Rejects Is there even a contest? The only pop/punk band even mentioning is Bad Religion, which I find that most fans don't even know they exist. What ever happened to people realizing the art behind the music? Yes, 80's hair metal was just as bad as pop/punk is today and had a similar following, but... Dimebag, Hammet, Smith were all incredibly creative and skilled guitarists, yet you don't get it. Dave Lombardo was revolutionary, Joey Jordison is just absolutely sick, and the same goes for Danny Carey, my personal favorite drummer. I watched Danny Carey palm mute a cymbol, then do a tom roll one-handed just about as fast as most people do with two. It's true that bass doesn't have a real place in metal, but it doesn't in pop/punk either. I'm pretty sure Cliff Burton could annihilate any pop/punk bassist as well. And the lyrics actually MEAN something. Metal poses a question and asks you to think outside the box, go beyond conventional thinking, while pop/punk just revolts against a solidified idea that will NEVER change. Corey Taylor is an incredible writer as well as James Hetfield and Phil Anselmo. By the way, I consider myself a fan of MUSIC, not just metal. I highly recommend you try some Clapton, Shinedown, Primus, and Red Hot Chili Peppers, then get back to me about what you think about Blink. Brent Smith = best lyricist around today. Shinedown will save us all... |
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| My Chemical Romance – Helena Lyrics | 19 years ago |
| Well, apparently a large majority of teens today do. I'm not the one who classifies people as emo. People do that to themselves. | |
| My Chemical Romance – Helena Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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"I've realized now that I came into this forum with a bad attitude and the wrong argument. Now I want to challenge people with this : Most of you think goths/punks are suicidal or think of suicide because a lot of them do...... well, I disagree, that is stereotyping and I HATE stereotyping. So now I'm gunna stereotype and see if you agree with this.... remember, I'm making the same assumptions as you, just about a different topic......... Some nuns play soccer, right? Soccer is sometimes violent, correct? Therefore nuns are violent........ Do you see what I'm trying to say? Just because SOME do it doesn't mean you should suspect that ALL do it. Anyway, onto another point I want to make." Wow... Powerfully terrible argument... Take a journey with me... With a genre with lyrics such as "slit my wrists," it's hard to not "stereotype" the entire genre. Perhaps a misconception on my part, but overall, the better analogy should be... Football players must tackle opposing players, to tackle one has to be strong, therefore, football players are strong. Stereotype? Yes. Exceptions being kickers or punters, but overall, mainly true. Emo bands project an idea of suicide, emo kids listen to emo bands, therefore, emo kids project an idea of suicide. Stereotype? Yes. Exceptions being the few that somewhat identify with emo but only passing at best. The truth is that emo is just another voice for a voiceless audience. It's an immature reaching out for attention that isn't merited or deserved. Emo is the poor man's grunge. There are no redeeming qualities to emo. The poor music, with frail, pathetic, screechy vocals, and a shitty image that projects false depression, emotional instability, and suicidal tendencies. Not to mention the ugliest get-up I've seen in quite some time... really rivals 80's hair metal... Their lyrics are shallow and hollow, with no real apparent meaning, and nothing to separate them from most other lyrics. They don't hold any more emotion than any other genre out there, save hip-hop and rap. There's no reason to even be "emo." It's life, no matter what it throws at you, it's reality, and nothing will change that. |
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| Green Day – American Idiot Lyrics | 19 years ago |
| Who mentioned anything about complexity? | |
| Green Day – American Idiot Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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Well, it's not that I hate Green Day because they're popular, it's just that I think they put out a shitty product that isn't worth the hype that it gets. Although it might be a little idealistic of me, but bands don't really get together to become famous. The focus shouldn't be on the fame and money but a love and passion for making music. My personally definition of "selling-out" is a distortion of that. When there's a blurred distinction, there becomes a problem. As for American Idiot being less accessible, I don't believe so. It's not like this formula hasn't been used before in other bands. The problem lying in that is that it isn't Green Day's, raising some eyebrows. |
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| Green Day – American Idiot Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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Well, considering over the course of 2100+ comments you've heard every single meaning conceived by man. Yeah, I know where you're coming from though, but there's a lot of good arguments both supporting and trashing Green Day, you could read those... |
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| My Chemical Romance – I'm Not Okay (I Promise) Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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I'm not saying that they would actually COMMIT suicide. It just seems like emo kids want others to BELIEVE that they would. It just seems like one huge attention getter, which might be the most shallow thing I have ever heard... Which is why I hate this genre... |
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| My Chemical Romance – I'm Not Okay (I Promise) Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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Yes, but the emo image is one of the most unhealthy, with the exception of rap, which is why I protest it. The fans of the other genres you've listed, again with the exception of rap, understand something. Just because I listen to metal does not make me so. Just because I listen to alternative does not make me so. Just because I listen to grunge does not make me so. Yet, I find that this is untrue of most people who identify with emo. They listen to a genre but don't grasp onto it like most emos do... Yet, I also find that most genres have deeper meaning. I'm sure you know that behind the alternative image of not bathing and dirty clothes, there's a much deeper one. The same can be said about the rest. The lyrics of metal, with the exception of shit like Cannibal Corpse, the lyrics of pop, with the exception of the stupid shit some popular pop artists say. The ideals of punk, with the exception of the stupid shit Green Day says. They all have their deeper meanings and their exceptions. This is not true of most emo. It all seems clones of one another. They state a problem yet never resolve it. This formula seems prevalent with most emo songs. Untrue of other genres, but I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of other people argue to the contrary, and they're probably right, yet this is the appearance it gives. Those who feel strongly enough against it should work to stop the generalization. That is... if you want this genre to survive... |
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| My Chemical Romance – Helena Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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Where did I say Tremonti was the best? Yes, Tremonti is good, but no, he is not the best. If you're asking who's the best, it's without a doubt Dimebag. |
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| My Chemical Romance – Helena Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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Queen? Okay, I'll give it a try. Yes, I totally agree. Some of the guitarists of today are terrible, like the ones you mentioned. Look, I'm not here to piss people off. I'm not trying to run this forum. As I said before, I just want people to think, that's all I'm trying to provoke. Thought will one day save us all... |
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| Hawthorne Heights – Ohio Is for Lovers Lyrics | 19 years ago |
| Amen to metalhead m/ and mystizo9. | |
| KoЯn – Twisted Transistor Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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Every band in history has struggled? Really? The only ones I can think of are the ones who sold-out, like Korn and Metallica. Head was by far the most talented individual in Korn, when he left, it is no longer Korn. Instead, it's just another crappy nu-metal band. |
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| My Chemical Romance – I'm Not Okay (I Promise) Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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*sighs...* haha, please, don't comment unless you've read the entire post. Okay, okay, I won't call your post "pointless," but had you actually read, I only called it pointless because it missed a major point of my argument which they proceeded to exploit even though it was right there. Which you have done the same... Let's not focus on My Chemical Romance so much here when focusing on my arguments. Honestly, your personal "label" is irrelevent here. Again, I will go back to my previous argument. If something smells like shit, looks like shit, it probably isn't a $20 bill. The same can be said of emo and those who conform to their ideals. The overall perception of emo is suicidial tendencies and emotional instability. THAT is what I'm trying to fight here. Sit tight, I'll go over it again... What argument do people have of being "emo?" It's childish and self-centered. It's merely an attention getter from those who feel deprived of it. Nobody who is truly emotionally or mentally unstable which cause them to have suicidal tendencies would EVER go through such lengths that most kids who are emo do. The tears happen, endure, grieve, and move on. The only person that is with us our entire lives is OURSELVES. Be alive while you are alive! There's so much truth in that statement. Life is life, it will never change. It's unfair, and at times, yes, it can suck, but we all deal with it. The life of an "emo" kid could be far worse, yet they don't appreciate what they have and crave more attention. Sad, but unfortunately true. I know people who are really suicidal. They're all over the M.I.T. campus. At M.I.T., a 50% is considered almost tops and well above a passing grade, and there are those who feel they are failures. Family honor, failure, not being able to look themselves in the mirror after a lifetime of achievement, then all of a sudden, you're mediocre or even worse, even though there's no validictorian and all you receive is a diploma, it still is very hard to accept. I have two friends of mine who committed suicide. None of which put on any sort of show, never cut themselves before hand, never even said goodbye. On the other hand, I have a cousin who considers herself to be "emo." It appauls me, after seeing someone truly suicidal, to see someone feign it solely for the attention of others. It also scares me to death. I love my cousin dearly, but it breaks my heart to see her with cuts on her arms. But back to my argument... Let's consider My Chemical Romance again. As A Red Hotel said before, My Chemical Romance wants to be classified as a rock band. Yet, their outer image, which they CHOOSE to give off, will never let them be so. My Chemical Romance looks emo, sounds emo, and their name even implies emo, so I don't think they're a rock band. Again, as I said before, I only hate this band because I feel that they are very mediocre and feed off high school identity crisises and their insecurities in order to propel them to the top and make a quick buck. Fortunately, it's a passing fad, and I think it will be remembered the way 80's hair metal and boy-bands of the 90's will be remembered. As for you OnlyHisVoice, don't play it like you have the moral high road. I never asked you to post on this site. You did that of your own accord, why? Well, it seems like you did it to argue and insult me, just as you accused me of doing. Again, read the post first if you would, before you repost. |
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| My Chemical Romance – Helena Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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Ah imnotokayxo, perhaps it's you that needs to grow up. Read my last post, and maybe you'd understand. Great argument though, when you hate something or feel something is wrong, you don't talk about it. I'm sure that would've been great for the anti-slavery movement had no one said anything about it. Granted this is much less severe than slavery, but I still feel strongly about it. Let's review some things... No, I do not spend my time on this band. Had you actually read my post, you would've realized that the only reason I know so much about this band is because my cousin is a fan of this band. Again, you mistake this as a bitch. Don't think of it that way, merely just to provoke thought about this band you idolize. I just feel like their fans are being cheated and used. This is why I despise them so much. Grow up man? I'm doing grad work at M.I.T. and am guessing I'm a bit older than you. B12, I just don't know. He hasn't proven anything to me yet. There are just so many better guitarists out there. I mean, he can't even hold a candle to Dimebag or Hammet in their prime. He's no Mark Tremonti (who has an extra set of fingers somewhere...). Chris D'abaldo, although I agree he is an inferior guitarist, "Survival of the Sickest" is actually a good song, and one that's really fun to play, check out the tab if you have the time. I like that you're passionate about music, and if you really believe that he's a good guitarist, then that's your opinion. You, at least, have something to back up why you like this band, so I'm behind you on that. |
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| My Chemical Romance – Helena Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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One of the most talented? I have to disagree. Even Chris D'abaldo has proven himself to be a more talented guitarist in "Survival of the Sickest." He doesn't hold a candle to guitarists like Mark Tremonti. A Red Hotel, we can, it's just that I find emo repulsive to a degree that I can't stand any argument supporting it. I just feel that they've baited young kids into believing in that life is horrible and out to fuck them over. It just seems that they feed off emotions that everyone has just to make money, and it's led to kids participating in self-mutilation and feigning emotional instability. I personally believe that music is the most influential aspect of our lives, at least from the ages of 5-18. Maybe I'm being too critical, but I just hate the entire idea, and arguments defending such a way of thinking just doesn't seem right. No hard feelings, I just have a real problem with emo. I have a cousin who is emo, and she hears me make these arguments, and I just try to make her see that it just doesn't make sense to hurt herself, but she doesn't want to hear it. It's just I don't want to see her or anyone else screw up their life because of what they did when they were 13, I don't know... |
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| Nickelback – Someday Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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This video was incredible. Nickelback does a lot of cool things with their music videos. Leh0425, pointless argument. There have been several other great bands that recycle rhythm riffs, like Metallica. |
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| My Chemical Romance – I'm Not Okay (I Promise) Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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This is great... Really? Did you really read the posts? Perhaps had you taken a closer look, you would've come to the conclusion that the argument was not how naive he was, I'd like you to read the large blocks of text above it, maybe that was what i was about, but what the hell do I know? I only wrote it... Very amusing, as you try to take the "high road" of debate by saying "Me personally, I don't like MCR. But then, I'm not going to sit here and go into a "fight" about it like The Korean and A Red Hotel." haha, as if you're better than us. Yet, you go on. You accuse us of having too much pride to see the other's opinion. Odd... You seem to have enough pride to judge other's content and character. You've stated your "findings" as if they're fact, when in fact, they're just like mine and A Red Hotel's OPINIONS. It takes an awful lot of pride to come off as if you're actually taking the "high road" and stating your opinions as if they're unquestionable fact. Was your post even necessary? For someone who seems to scoff at forum arguments, you seem to want some kind of response to your post here, a tinge hypocritical. Let's reveal some more gaping holes in your rationale... Oh! Let's start at the insults. Why did I say them? It's because I used my ability to rationalize what I have seen from My Chemical Romance, while I felt the inferior argument was someone's simple opinion. Had he come back with a reasonable argument interpreting those same events, I would have accepted his opinions. Again, you mistake the argument to be about My Chemical Romance, when it was only an aspect of the real argument. The argument was about emo, plain and simple. I believe it has absolutely no place anywhere, it has no merit, it has no defense. Any ideal that promotes self-mutilation, feigned emotional instability, and suicidal tendencies to be highly unhealthy. But, it's apparent that you know everything about my argument, again, what the hell do I know? Really? Define a "cuss" word, please. Profanity has no negative connotation, only one that we label. These are the words that ADULTS use to express anger and frustration. It's more effective if you actually get facts straight and perhaps spell things correctly. It gives the illusion of intelligence, which you seem to need from time to time. In any case, I commend you for possibly the most worthless/pointless post I've seen in quite a long time. Your argument is quite bad. Get off your high horse, you've shown as much, if not more pride than I have, if you're going to call it that. ~TK2908 P.S. Just a tip, OnlyHisVoice, I wouldn't talk as if you know everything and anything about an argument unless you're 100% sure. I wouldn't accuse someone of having too much pride when you show much in return. It just sounds stupid. xD |
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| Green Day – American Idiot Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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I've heard the majority of the album, enough to make a fair assessment. The only ones I haven't heard are "Letterbomb" and "Homecoming," so no, it is not just a biased opinion. Very true, I also despise those who judge a band solely on one song. |
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| My Chemical Romance – I'm Not Okay (I Promise) Lyrics | 19 years ago |
| Very true, I only ask that you back it up. | |
| My Chemical Romance – Helena Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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Good man, Children of Bodom is a solid band. As for My Chemical Romance pulling off a Leave A Whisper or Us and Them, I doubt it. Brent Smith's vocal range is very very good. I don't think Gerard could pull that off. I'm not ripping on My Chemical Romance because they're popular, I give every band a chance. Check "I'm Not Okay" to see my thoughts on them. As for Alt. Grunge genre for Leave A Whisper, I have to disagree. I think they're purely Alt. Rock. Songs like "No More Love," "Stranger Inside," and "Crying Out" back this up. |
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| My Chemical Romance – I'm Not Okay (I Promise) Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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*sighs...* Apparently, things have to be spelled out for you in order for you to understand them. Anything implied goes right over your head. In such cases, I find it necessary to spell out, in a numbered list, exactly what I've been saying. Defend the following statements... 1. My Chemical Romance would like to be classified as a "rock" band, yet they separate themselves from other rock bands in their image. Could it possibly be that in all reality they are a mediocre band and have used this "image" as a marketing move in order to sell records? 2. Exactly what separates My Chemical Romance's lyrics from those of... Shinedown - Shed Some Light Metallica - The Unforgiven/Welcome Home (Sanitarium) Stone Sour - Bother Pantera - Cemetary Gates Staind - Outside Seether - Fine Again (watch the video) Puddle of Mudd - Blurry/Drift and Die Smile Empty Soul - Silhouettes Breaking Benjamin - Here We Are Hinder - Lips of an Angel/Better Than Me Exactly what separates this type of lyrical content from My Chemical Romance's? If nothing, then, it brings me back to my initial point. What separates them? Their image. 3. Why does My Chemical Romance go through the getup that they do? I would think they realize they are being emulated throughout the world. 4. Do you honestly think that you will be an "emo" or fan of emo in the next two years, if that? I highly doubt it. I consider emo to be a lot like boy-bands of the mid-90's, nu-metal of the early 00's, and now emo of the mid-to-late-00's. 5. Most high schoolers, especially high school girls, have somewhat of a self-esteem problem, would you agree? Taking this into account, wouldn't it be very easy to profit on such unstable emotions? What makes you think My Chemical Romance wouldn't do just that? 7. I consider the music accompanying My Chemical Romance to be terrible and uninspired. And if you consider their lyrics to be the most inspired aspect of their band (although I don't know why you do, with a 2nd grade rhyme scheme and "I'm not okay" 800 times), then what exactly are you listening to? 8. Finally, defend emo. The perception that you are emotionally unstable, so you dress a certain way, act a certain way, and listen to certain music. You use this "non-conformity" to give off such an impression of suicidal tendencies, emotional instability, and how troubled and hard your life is. Yet, who among you can honestly say that they live a shit life, especially compared to those living in poverty, 3rd world countries, or constant violence? Who among you can honestly say that someone who is truly inclined to suicidal thoughts would take the time and effort to dress a certain way, act a certain way, and listen to certain music? Not many I presume... Can you not see how insensitive, ignorant, and stupid this entire group is? It's all for attention. It's shallow, it's inconsiderate, and above all, selfish. Look, I don't have to insult you. You do it to yourself by posting such biased opinions. I give EVERY band a shot. I listen with a totally unbiased opinion and judge their character and image. This is why I have such a diverse taste in music, ranging from pianist Jim Brickman to Slayer, Zeppelin to Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden, or Staind to Exodus. I've given My Chemical Romance their shot, and they've failed miserably. They've proven from what they've shown so far to simply be in this industry for money. My objective is to instigate though, remember that. |
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| Seether – Fine Again Lyrics | 19 years ago |
| Incredible song, even more incredible music video. Seether is one of the best acts today. Great job, guys. | |
| My Chemical Romance – I'm Not Okay (I Promise) Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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How amusing... You believe so blindly, so deep into this thing you call a band it's comical. But for the hell of it, let's review... My opinion? Ok, let's compare creativity... Ray Toro and Frank Lero Not exactly Mark Tremonti, Dimebag, or Hammet. Let's break down this pathetic excuse of a song. Basically, he uses the same 3 power chords again and again. Wow, just wow, that is some kind of talent right there. It makes me want to cut myself. Mikey Way I don't think bass could be any more non-existant, even taking metal into consideration, far cry from Fieldy. Les Claypool and Flea are weeping. Bob Bryar There's something special about emo drummers. Considering Hawthorne Heights' drummer was so bad that they got a different drummer to record in the studio. ANYONE can write a decent beat, and this doesn't impress me in the slightest. Danny Carey should kill this little bitch, and John Bonham should return from the grave. Last, and certainly least, Gerard Way The whiney, moaney frontman for this pathetic band. This guy makes me want to listen to Axl Rose. He can't even fucking write, yet everyone gives him praise up the ass. He isn't Brent Smith. He isn't Corey Taylor. He should cease to exist. Yet, that is ONE MAN'S OPINION. I'm sure everyone would be right behind you when you compare... Toro/Lero vs. Slash Mikey Way vs. d'Amour Bob Bryar vs. Bonham Gerard Way vs. Brent Smith That IS my opinion though... No, I don't expect ALL musicians to be as good as the legendary ones, but that IS what separates them from the rest of the pack and the reason as to why they are so popular. My Chemical Romance holds none of these elements, except the fact that they have made an immature and WRONG connection with a young and impressionable audience. Onto your next point... "You know what your so called essays, I hope your not putting them on Song meanings, if you want to help suicidal teens, and not classify a bunch of them and call them emo, be a therapist, because writing a godam essay is NOT going to save anyone’s lives, and say If I was a "suicidal emo", like your helping to try and degrade the band I listen to. If you want to help suicidal teens you are from helping, and you don’t even relies it." Excellent grammer and spelling by the way... Well, it appears that you've revealed that you care about your fellow man about as much as the band you're so enamored with. You missed the point. It was to provoke thought. I've asked people to THINK, which you have yet to do. Look at this band from an unbiased point of view, maybe you'll get it. Re-read the fucking post, and you'll realize that My Chemical Romance cares about as much about their audience as 50 Cent does. Reading the rest of your post is quite frustrating... You've proven to be no exception when I said most emos don't even want to hear about it. I can't judge a band by its appearance? Then what they hell do you judge a band by? Consider the following two examples... You stumble upon a dark mass in front of you. You decide to inspect. Upon further review, it has all the familiar symptoms of shit. Looks like shit, smells like shit, yet by using your logic, you could very well classify this as caviar. You attend a Slayer concert. Tom Araya and Kerry King have just unleashed the lamb's blood and have proceeded to cover themselves and the audience with it. You, totally covered in lamb's blood, again using your logic, might classify Slayer as Alternative or Punk/Pop, but you can't really tell from appearances, can you? Don't try to come off as passive, because you have insulted me. Your first post labeled me as ignorant and stupid, why? Probably because I used thinking and logic to trash your beloved band. Please... using the fleeting signs of logic you've shown, prove me wrong, by all means. Use logic to tell me why My Chemical Romance is good for young people. Tell me why they dress the way they do. Tell me why My Chemical Romance wouldn't simply just lie in interviews. Is it that hard to believe? And is it so hard to believe that your beloved band has sold out? So many have of recent: Korn, Metallica, O.A.R., The Used, Green Day, Slayer, etc. Please prove me wrong, and when you do... I'll be more than happy to prove your biased opinions wrong in return. |
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| My Chemical Romance – I'm Not Okay (I Promise) Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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Question: Is My Chemical Romance a rock band? It begs the question as to why exactly My Chemical Romance seems to want to separate themselves from the label they've given themselves in public interviews. Yet, how many "rock" bands take the time to dress in the way My Chemical Romance does or separate themselves from other rock bands in their lyrics and overall message? None... Believe me when I say that any band that doesn't want to promote a "doom-and-gloom" image shouldn't go through the effort that is their entire gimmick. Gerard knows he's a public image now. As such, there are certain responsibilities. Consider popular professional athletes. Take LeBron James for example. Perhaps the most emulated, emphasis on emulated, athlete on the planet. How many LeBron James jerseys do you see on a regular basis? I'll go out on a limb and say quite a few. Yet, the majority of those wearing such jerseys are... what? Well, they're probably between the ages of 5-18, why? Well, quite honestly, it is the most impressionable age. Combine this with the fact that music is perhaps the most impressionable aspect of those between those ages. This can be a problem. Don't tell me that Gerard doesn't know he's being imitated in everything he says and does, from the way he dresses, to what he says, to even his hair. Yet, he goes about promoting his music in such a way. "The idea behind this record was to tell a fictional story that mirrored the first 2 years of our lives. To execute the message we use metaphors, such as the supernatural element of resurrection." Blatent bullshit... The move was purely a marketing move. Let's face it, had My CHEMICAL Romance simple made this record without the image what would they be? A rock band. But... JUST a rock band, having nothing to separate them from the rest of the pack. "it seems like a convenient term for any music with feelings." More bullshit... Any music with feelings!? Are you fucking kidding me!? That statement right there pissed me off. Who are they to say that they're one of the only bands with "feeling?" And no, it is NOT a convenient label. Most bands in the country have some message and some pain to vent. Just because these bands don't glorify self-mutilation doesn't mean that they don't have "feeling." Exactly how naive are you? If it were you, and you were only in this business for a quick buck, would you come out and say that you were only in it for the money? No... This band is a middle-of-the-pack rock band and uses its image to propel themselves into the limelight. You ask why you aren't considered a "rock" band? It's because you choose not to be. "If for one minute you think you're better than a sixteen year old girl in a Green Day t-shirt, you are sorely mistaken. Remember the first time you went to a show and saw your favorite band. You wore their shirt, and sang every word. You didn't know anything about scene politics, haircuts, or what was cool. All you knew was that this music made you feel different from anyone you shared a locker with. Someone finally understood you. This is what music is about." I can't even believe he said this... It just solidifies what I've been saying the entire time. You're right Gerard, when you went to your first show you didn't know anything about the "image." But... As time goes on and on, the image becomes a part of you, whether you like it or not, which is exactly the problem with My Chemical Romance. You mistake me for someone who is just here to bitch. I type these huge essays just in the hope that I might be able to stop one high school emo from self-mutilation, or maybe from going to far and suicide itself. Suicide only becomes easier to accept as you're exposed to it more and more, which emo does. Yet... I find that most emo kids don't even want to hear about it. They have their ideas, and that's all they care about, quite a problem. And I will close with... "This is what music is about." No Gerard, you've mentioned some aspects of music, but you haven't hit the nail on the head quite yet. Perhaps this is why you struggle. Of course, music is about understanding and connection. But it doesn't stop there. Music is an art form, combining the creativity of vocals, instrument, and poetry. My Chemical Romance has yet to achieve any of these three, instead they've focused on the monetary side of music. An unfortunate aspect, to which you can blame MTV. Is My Chemical Romance talented enough to write a beautiful instrumental? Reach the difficult vocal scales? Write a coherent song with an actual message? I highly doubt it... Gerard, you got part of it, but if you let me fill in the blanks, then... This is what music is about... Read the entire post before you put anymore trash on this website. |
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| My Chemical Romance – Helena Lyrics | 19 years ago |
| Listen to "Lady So Divine," "Fly From The Inside," "Beyond The Sun," "Burning Bright," and "All I Ever Wanted" then get back to me. | |
| Green Day – American Idiot Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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I'm also tolerant of people who assume that everyone who makes such statements hasn't heard their entire album. It just seems wrong... |
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| My Chemical Romance – Helena Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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Came a time When every star fall brought you to tears again We are the very hurt you sold And what's the worst you take (worst you take) from every heart you break (heart you break) And like the blade you stain (blade you stain) Well I've been holding on tonight I can hear these lyrics speaking to me... I think they're telling me to do something with my life... Yeah, that's it. Everything you've just said does NOT defend My Chemical Romance in the slightest. Because... let's face it... this ISN'T art nor is it music. You've just stated all the great and beautiful aspects of your life. Yet, you give My Chemical Romance the credit for telling you to do something with your life. Odd... I could've sworn My Chemical Romance preaches exactly what you HAD been doing, yet they brought you out of it? Don't waste your time with this pathetic excuse of a band. There are no redeeming qualities. As a guitarist and drummer, I can say that this song is horrific on a musical level, as for bass, I can only assume that it is equally as bad. Lyrically, this song is transparent and shallow. As for the image... don't even get me started again. Go listen to some Shinedown... |
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| My Chemical Romance – I'm Not Okay (I Promise) Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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loop-to-loop why are you still talking? This isn't an IM conversation, please actually have something to say... What does this song mean to me? Well... Hey, we're My Chemical Romance. I guess you could call us a kind of leech. We've changed style into one that feeds off the insecure and unstable emotions of high schoolers, especially high school girls. We realize that the youth of America is gullible enough to actually buy into our bullshit, but we NEVER thought it would be so prominent today. Emo guys and emo girls going home and participating in self-mutilation, putting on black make-up, dress a certain way, and put their hair down on their face, all to give the "illusion" of being suicidal. Well, who gives a fuck? We're selling albums, right? We really don't care at all about our fans. If anyone actually thought about it, they'd come to realize that too. I hope you can. Sincerely, My Chemical Romance Let's break this letter down... Well, we've already been over the couple paragraphs, so let me delve into my last idea. Consider the following... Imagine someone you really care about. Now would you want them participating in the things that define emo? I would hope not, even if money is involved. At that some token, could you do the same thing if it was someone you were indifferent about? Well, some people are sick enough to do so, namely My Chemical Romance. Think about what I've said thoroughly, then formulate your defense. I want to hear coherent thought, not "go fuck yourself." |
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| KoЯn – Twisted Transistor Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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Bull, I'll tell you what this song is about... "Hey, we're Korn. When we had ability and monetary innocence, we could give a shit about the fans. But now, since Head is gone, and our two 7-string sound is now gone... we've gone to different lengths to try and SELL ALBUMS. We've decided that we are no longer appealing to our nu-metal audience. Head was an integral part of Korn and now is gone. BUT! We've used a new asset! *ahem* I mean, artist! We're going to remix one of our songs with Dem Franchise Boyz. I think the Korn that released Life is Peachy would be proud. We've also decided to cut back on lyrically meaning. Jon thinks it's too much work anymore to write lyrics with any real meaning. We're going to feed on American gullibility and write lyrics that are empty and general, so everyone can relate and it'll sell more albums! Who needs songs like 'Shoots and Ladders' and 'Falling Away From me?' Plus, the mainstream audience never really cared for our old music. We'd like to sincerely apologize to all our old fans who miss and crave the old Korn... well, actually, we're not 'sincerely' sorry. Fuck it, look at us, we're fucking multi-millionaires, who gives a fuck about our fans? We're gonna tap this sucker dry and retire without another thought of our old fans. Sincerely, Korn" Yeah, Jonathan Davis sent that to me the other day. I consider myself a Korn fan in the same respect that I consider myself a Metallica fan. I ADORE Metallica's old stuff and Korn's old stuff. New Metallica and new Korn? Eh... not so much. I was, unfortunately, led to believe that Head wasn't as important to Korn as he was. This band is shit without him... Any of you who argue to the contrary, I'd like you to take a listen to the ENTIRE Korn discography. You'll realize what a HUGE jump "Take A Look in the Mirror" and "See You on the Other Side" exactly was. I love Korn, they're one of my favorite bands, but this was an absolute embarassment. It makes me ashamed to be a Korn fan. Korn went from releasing THE greatest nu-metal album ever in Untouchables to releasing this shit? What has happened to music? All the bands I once loved have either sold-out, died, or broken up... And now we're stuck with hip-hop and emo... |
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| My Chemical Romance – Helena Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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I applaud such a post. I think you should start this big, important new life you're about to embark on by making a resolution. Stop listening to My Chemical Romance. Let's face it... It'll only hinder your big plans... |
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| My Chemical Romance – Helena Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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Interesting... I'd like to respond to a few things. First... Emo has no place. It has absolutely no merit in the music INDUSTRY. Let me explain why... Welcome to the Real World. This is life. Shit happens, the tears happen. The distinction here is that emo doesn't seem to want to move on. In fact, it becomes a sort of game, in which player 1, the emo, goes through tremendous effort to seem "emotionally unstable" or "suicidal" and participate in self-mutilation. Player 2 has three options. They can either give player 1 what he wants, the attention they so crave, ignore player 1, or do something along the lines as to what I'm doing. Ages 10-18, but no further! Why no further? Well, around that age, you should complete a stage of your life, I'm going to call it "growing up." Emo is an incredibly immature way to deal with everyday problems, and yes, everyday problems include deaths or whatever. How many adults do you see that are emo? That should raise some alarms right there. "My Chemical Romance is a band with the power to speak with their music.... not many bands can do that even! They sing about stuff that matters unlike most bands that get up on stage and just say "lets sing about drugs and sex!" I'd rather listen to a band with an opinion on things instead of a group of drugheads that only care about where they'll get layed next!!!!!!!!! I'm not saying I don't listen to those kinds of bands I'm just saying I don't like them as much as other bands...." Where do I even begin with this statement? Please... we're not the ones coming off as stupid and ignorant, it's you. Do you honestly believe that My Chemical Romance really gives a rat's ass about you? No, any band that labels themselves with a genre that consists of self-mutilation doesn't care about you in the slightest. So what exactly is it that they're speaking to you? "Buy our albums!" My Chemical Romance, along with most other emo bands, feed off of commonplace high school emotions. The drama of high school can seem overwhelming at times. We all try and find our own identities. My Chemical Romance realizes this... They release an album with parallels to these feelings. Why? To sell ALBUMS! Number one, nobody should EVER totally identify themselves with their music. I listen to multiple genres, yet I do not identify myself with any of them. This goes for all genres, if you listen to punk, you shouldn't label yourself as a "punk." But emo asks you to do that, don't even try to argue that point. Why is it that we have the "emo" groups today? I want you to ask yourself exactly why emo got popular. Let's eliminate a few options. Defintely not for any stringed instruments. Defintely not for drums (considering Hawthorne Height's drummer isn't even the drummer in studio because he can't keep BEATS). Defintely not for vocals (as most emo voices remind me of 80's hair metal vocals mixed with Axl Rose). It's in the lines, the lyrics make emo the "hit" it is today. They use teenage emotional instability, something even a band like Limp Bizkit wasn't even low enough to do. As for your brilliant remark as to most bands today speak of only sex and drugs instead of some sort of message... What are you talking about? Name ONE band that is either metal, punk (not pop-punk), or alternative band without purpose behind their lyrics. I'll say it again... Emo is merely a passing fad. It will be remember the same way that boy-bands of the 90's are remembered today. Can any of you honestly say that you'll be emo in the next 2-3 years? I don't think so... |
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| Hawthorne Heights – Ohio Is for Lovers Lyrics | 19 years ago |
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How very very naive... Music is by far the most influential aspect of teenage life. I pose this question: Was cutting ever really prominent before the emo genre got popular? No, never to the extent it is today. Subliminal messages aren't needed when the message is right out there. "So cut my wrists and black my eyes" Of course, music influences what you do. Think of the way you see people dressed, the way people act. If you really thought about it, you'd understand... But that's the problem today... Thought just simply ceases to exist. What a very intelligent post Cindy-loo, I await further posts from you. I GUARANTEE anyone who is currently emo will not be in the next two years. Emo is just a passing fad, I like to compare them to boy-bands of the 90's... But I won't pursue the idea of emo anymore, you've stated a fallacy that music does not influence you, and I've corrected it. What exactly is a SELF DECISION? Aren't all decision made by one self? Simply because you said that implies that some decisions aren't always made by yourself. If you had never seen the color green before, and you were told that green was in fact purple, what would you believe? Apply this logic here... "FUCK OFF!" - What an intelligent thing to say... "FUCK OFF if you don't like emo!" "FUCK OFF if you don't like slavery!" Not so intelligent anymore is it? It's the basic response to those who don't have an argument of their own. I hate to rip on you, especially on a forum, but you've just left it so wide open with such a post... Figure it out, I'm sure you can. |
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