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System of a Down – B.Y.O.B. Lyrics 20 years ago
Wow...where do you start with this one? Hmmm. Let's start with "why do they always send the poor?" since the band keeps repeating it like they've actually figured something out. First...the poor aren't sent, they volunteer. The question is "why do they always volunteer?". The answer is because they get a free education that many of them wouldn't have otherwise, they also learn qualities such as respect, leadership and responsibility that many, especially those from the ghetto, need. I have seen the military change people around from worthless whiners to strong people with character. They also learn skills in the military and see the world and contrary to Soad's apparent beliefs, most come back in one piece. Many also do it for their country. It's very ironic to me that the vast majority of the people volunteering for the military and putting their lives on the line believe in what they're doing while whiny west coast bands like soad are doing the bitching from their mansions. Newsflash: Soad you are rich. The poor go because whiny Hollywood rich types like you would never do it! What's more, it's because of your people that we are there...not because of the rich, Bush, Republicans or anyone else.

What's next. Hangers sitting dripped in oil. Soad this war isn't about oil despite all of the delusional, unprovable, conspiracies that Kerry, Moore and all of the other wack jobs have mind f***** you with just to get votes and regain power. We were attacked so we went into Afghanistan to bitch slap the government that supported Osama. It wasn't about oil, it wasn't about religion, it was about justice. If it were about anything else we would have done it long before now. Since we were over there we decided we might as well take care of Sadam as well. If we wanted oil we would have went into Iraq when they attacked their neighbor and our ally. Saddam signed an agreement and he broke it. Saddam paid off people to bomb innocent people in Israel, Saddam shot at our planes, Saddam killed thousands of his own people, he attacked his neighbor, he killed those in his country that disagreed with him and at some point everyone agreed that he had WMDs which he either sold, or disposed of in such a way that the UN could not verify that he disposed of them (that would have been almost an unbelievably stupid thing to do). He was an unstable force in an already unstable region and when everyone else in the world came out against what happened on 9/11 he basically said "that's what you get". The president gave him the opportunity to step down peacefully and he refused. Not one shot needed to be fired. This is all Saddam's fault and it is NOT about oil. If it was our gas prices would be a lot lower now. The only reason we protect the oil facilities in Iraq is because it's the only thing of value there and it needs to be protected so it can be used to rebuild and support the country. It's not like all the sand over there is worth very much.

How about the line "we don't live in a facist nation". Hmmmm. Is it just me or do people throw that term and the term Nazi around way too much. If you think that Bush is a facist or a nazi you may need to try watching the Discovery or History channel for once. Watch the specials on Germany during WW2 as thousands of bodies are pushed into mass graves with bulldozers and learn what fascism and nazi's really are. Hey Soad, you think this is a fascist nation? It obviously isn't. If it were you'd be dead. I would love to hop in a time machine, put Soad in Iraq, or WW2 Germany and generate some anti Saddam or anti Hitler lyrics for them and see how long they lived. Go ahead Soad, keep pissing all over the people and the government of this nation. Fortunately for you that freedom is granted to you because WE fought for it.

Having said all that the music behind the "dancing in the desert" part is very catchy.

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VNV Nation – Darkangel Lyrics 20 years ago
To the people that supported Morphed's view that the darkangel was Gabriel you need to learn more about the subject. Gabriel was a messenger angel, not a fallen angel and he worked for God not man. Michael was the angel of war. Then there was the angel of death (I don't think that he was given a name) and Lucifer an angel that after his rebellion was called Satan or the Devil. There was a rebellion in heaven after which Lucifer took 1/3 (or was it 2/3rds) of the angels (later referred to as demons) with him. The Bible makes it known that Lucifer has power and influence over the earth and humans until the final judgement when he will be cast into "the lake of fire" or hell for eternity. When I first heard this song I thought it was just Ronan talking as himself, but I'm not sure. Then I started viewing it as just a concept of a darkangel, or anything/anyone that wants peace and good at the cost of doing something not traditionally considered good such as war. This is the essence of justice as technically justice is often the concept of two wrongs making a right. I've also contemplated that it actually was an angel, but every time I thought I had the answer I could find parts of the song that contradicted my belief. My friend actually thinks the song is about Hitler which goes with the lyrics about as well as any other theory, however, I think the line "I only came here seeking peace" throws it off. If you think that its about an actual angel it would have to either be Lucifer, Michael, or the angel of Death, but I think each scenario falls apart at some point in the song. VNV writes such solid lyrics that we may be taking for granted that the song is lyrically perfect, or Biblically correct. VNV is coming here next week, maybe I'll ask Ronan, but something tells me he won't go into it. I asked him a question about the "future pop" label last time he was here and he made it clear that he had had enough of that issue. I understood though. I wouldn't want to be asked the same questions all the time either. Something like the the meaning of a song may be either to personal to share, or perhaps he doesn't want to ruin the mystique of the song by not leaving it open for interpretation. Oh well, we'll see.

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VNV Nation – Further Lyrics 21 years ago
I love this song, but it's definitely the darkest that VNV has written. To me, Ronan is contemplating the Universe as many scientists see it, without a God or an afterlife, while looking "Further" into the future to the inevitable demise of life. Indulging this view can only lead to one conclusion...that we as individuals, a species, or a planet are meaningless; that there is no right or wrong, only shape-shifting matter moving around that sometimes forms living things, which while living, are only bound in hopelessness.

The last two lines are "As we were forged we shall return, perhaps some day. I will remember you and wonder who we were." I'm not sure what the official version of the punctuation is, but I think of the song with the following punctuation. "As we were forged we shall return. Perhaps some day I will remember you and wonder who we were." It definitely changes the meaning for the darker, but makes it less contradictive.

Have fun slitting your wrists everyone.

Mark

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