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  • Song to a Seagull

    by tally1302 on September 20, 2006
    Fly silly seabird No dreams can possess you No voices can blame you For sun on your wings My gentle relations Have names they must call me For loving the freedom Of all flying things My dreams with the seagulls fly Out of reach out of cry I came to the city And lived like old Crusoe On an island of noise In a cobblestone sea And the beaches were concrete And the stars paid a light bill And the blossoms hung false On their store window trees My dreams with the seagulls fly Out of reach out of cry Out of the city And down to the seaside To sun on my shoulders And wind in my hair But sandcastles crumble And hunger is human And humans are hungry For worlds they can't share My dreams with the seagulls fly Out of reach out of cry I call to a seagull Who dives to the waters And catches his silver-fine Dinner alone Crying where are the footprints That danced on these beaches And the hands that cast wishes That sunk like a stone My dreams with the seagulls fly Out of reach Out of cry This is a song about the inner conflict faced by all human beings: whether to live in the industrial modern world or be in touch with nature. What this song points out is that we can never be completely happy with one or the other because "sandcasles crumble and hunger is human and humans are hungry for worlds they can't share" even though the city is an "island of noise in a cobble stone sea" While a seagull can happily live in both worlds, humans can be happy in neither. What i love about this song is how Joni's voice sounds like seaguls crying in certain parts :)
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  • Marcie

    by tally1302 on September 20, 2006
    Marcie in a coat of flowers Steps inside a candy store Reds are sweet and greens are sour Still no letter at her door So she'll wash her flower curtains Hang them in the wind to dry Dust her tables with his shirt and Wave another day goodbye Marcie's faucet needs a plumber Marcie's sorrow needs a man Red is autumn green is summer Greens are turning and the sand All along the ocean beaches Stares up empty at the sky Marcie buys a bag of peaches Stops a postman passing by And summer goes Falls to the sidewalk like string and brown paper Winter blows Up from the river there's no one to take her To the sea Marcie dresses warm its snowing Takes a yellow cab uptown Red is stop and green's for going Sees a show and rides back down Down along the Hudson River Past the shipyards in the cold Still no letter's been delivered Still the winter days unfold Like magazines Fading in dusty grey attics and cellars Make a dream Dream back to summer and hear how he tells her Wait for me Marcie leaves and doesn't tell us Where or why she moved away Red is angry green is jealous That was all she had to say Someone thought they saw her Sunday Window shopping in the rain Someone heard she bought a one-way ticket And went west again I think this is a song about a holiday romance that meant a lot to this woman called Marcie. She was really in love with the man but he returned home and never contacted her again. The lyrics are beautifully expressive. Marcie tries to control her sorrow by buying candy, peaches and seeing a show. But it doesn't affect her sorrow. At first she is happy and hopeful, in a coat of flowers with flower curtains. Even though she has been waiting long enough for dust to gather, she busies herself with chores to make the days pass faster ("wave another day goodbye"). But life starts to fall apart. The fauset needing a plumber is an image of her being unable to stop herself from cryng or feeling sad. She had spent time with him on the beach but now the beaches are empty. Her emotion is transfered onto them as they "stare up empty at the sky". She is now getting slightly desperate and stops the postman to ask about a letter instead of just waving the day goodbye. The next part of the song is absolutely beautiful. There is a strong image of her hurriedly unwrapping a parcel (the string and brown paper falls to the sidewalk - she unwraps it before she even gets inside) only to find that it isn't from him. The coldness of winter sets in. She starts to lose hope and "dresses warm" against the chill that's setting in. She sees a show but it has no impact on her or her mood as she simply "rides back down" afterwards. Her memories of the summer have become like magazines that are fading and buried in her memory. Her summer is merely a dream. She gives up all hope in the last verse by leaving town - so even if he did write his letters wouldn't find her. She has not only lost hope but lost faith as well as is shown by her being seen on Sunday window shopping. I don't know what the use of red and green means, all I know is that they are opposites so maybe they represent opposite sides to her emotions? At first part of her is sweet about him leaving and half of her is sour, then red is focused on the autumn (current time) while green is dreaming back to summer, then red is for stopping hoping and green is for her running away, finally they both agree with red being angry with him for not returning and green being jealous of whoever he stayed for (a wife maybe?).
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  • Girl

    by tally1302 on September 20, 2006
    From in the shadow she calls And in the shadow she finds a way Finds a way And in the shadow she crawls Clutching her faded photograph My image under her thumb Yes, with a message from my heart Yes, with a message from my heart She's been everybody else's girl Maybe one day she'll be her own Everybody else's girl Maybe one day she'll be her own And in the doorway they stay And laugh as violins fill with water Screams from the bluebells Can't make them go away Well I'm not seventeen But I've cuts on my knees Falling down as the winter Takes one more cherry tree She's been everybody else's girl Maybe one day she'll be her own Everybody else's girl Maybe one day she'll be her own Rushin' rivers, thread so thin, limitation Dreams with the flying pigs, turbin blue and the drugstores too Safe in their coats and in their do's Yeah, smother in our hearts a pillow to my dots One day maybe one day One day she'll be her own And in the mist there she rides And castles are burning in my heart And as I twist I hold tight And I ride to work every morning wondering why "Sit in the chair and be good now" And become all that they told you The white coats enter her room And I'm callin' my baby, callin' my baby, callin' my baby, callin' Everybody else's girl Maybe one day she'll be her own Everybody else's girl Maybe one day she'll be her own I don't know if this song is about Tori or just about a random girl. I read somewhere that she said in an interview that it was about a part of her personality. I can relate to that. I think all of us have an "inner child" who will always be with us - a part of us who will never give up on who we wanted to be. The song in this case is about Tori always being what her parents and then her fans wanted her to be: being everybody else's girl and never her own. It features a conflict between the adult - who she *is* - and the girl she used to be that still dreams. This is a deeply symbolic song which says to me that it is personally about Tori – otherwise why bother with all the symbols? ------My long interpretation----- The shadows of the first verse will then be the shadows of Tori's subconscious where the repressed girl cries out for attention and tries to break through. Her photograph is faded because she is a thing of the past. The "image" carries a double meaning because it can mean a picture but can also mean her public self. Tori’s current image is under the control of the girl. “yes” is not a simple yes – it comes with a silent message from her heart which can be interpreted as the voice of the girl. “They” is not specific – it’s everyone and they only stay in the doorway of her heart. The violins filled with water is an image of great sadness because if I violin becomes filled with water it is destroyed. Violins may be symbolic of her hopes or dreams or aspirations and the public laughs as they are destroyed. She makes use of plant symbols in the bluebells and later the cherrytrees. Bluebells are said to help prevent nightmares, but even screaming the nightmare of the crowd laughing at her, won’t go away. Cherry trees are a symbol of friendship. Even though the Tori in the song is not even 17 yet she has already been hurt by life: falling down as the coldness of life takes away another friend – which is an important thing to someone who lives for others. The lyrics interlaced with the second chorus are complex but I think it’s more of a reflection of where her life is at the moment and how she smothers her dreams and desires or how they are smothered by those who try to help her cope with her feelings of depression–doctors/therapists/pharmacists. Rivers are always symbolic of life and her life’s energy is now spreading thin because of limitations and the fact that her dreams have as much chance of coming true as pigs flying. DOT is directly observed treatment/therapy where medical staff or a therapist will watch to make sure the patient takes the right number of pills etc. this seems the most sensible meaning for dots. While those who try and help her are kept safe from being affected by her depression by their professional distance (white coats, perfect hair dos, turbid blue uniforms), she is forced to smothers the voice in her heart (the one sending the silent message?). Yet the girl is still in the mist of her consciousness even though castles (fairytale dreams) are being destroyed in her heart. Even though Tori twists to escape the life she’s living, at the same time she is clinging to it: she still rides to work every morning even though she is wondering why. The answer is simple: when she was little she was told to sit in the chair and be good and become everything that others wanted her to be. The medical people (mentioned above) try to help Tori by going into her subconscious (“the white coats enter her room”) and Tori (now in the present tense) is calling for the girl trying to find out who she really is and hoping one day she will be able to be herself.
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  • Kiss From a Rose

    by tally1302 on September 20, 2006
    Intro ba da ba da da da ah ya ya ba da da da ba ba ee ah Ba ya ya ba ba de ba da da da ah ya ya ba da ba da da da ah ya ya ba da da da ba ba ee ah Ba ya ya ba ba de ba da da da ah ya ya Ba ya ha ya ah ah ah ah ah ba ba ya ya ha ah ah ah ah ah ah ba da ba da da da ah ya ya ba da da da ba ba ee ah Ba ya ya ba ba de ba da da da ah ya ya ba da ba da da da ah ya ya ba da da da ba ba ee ah Ba ya ya ba ba de ba da da da ah ya ya Ba ya ha ya ah ah ah ah ah ba ba ya ya ha ah ah ah ah ah ah Verse 1 There used to be a greying tower alone on the sea. You became the light on the dark side of me. Love remained a drug that's the high and not the pill. Chorus 1 But did you know, That when it snows, My eyes become large and, The light that you shine can be seen. Chorus 2 Baby, I compare you to a kiss from a rose on the grey. ...kiss from a rose on the grey. Ooh, The more I get of you, Ooh................... Stranger it feels, yeah. And now that your rose is is in bloom. A light hits the gloom on the grey. Inter ba da ba da da da ah ya ya ba da da da ba ba ee ah Ba ya ya ba ba de ba da da da ah ya ya ba da ba da da da ah ya ya ba da da da ba ba ee ah Ba ya ya ba ba de ba da da da ah ya ya Ba ya ha ya ah ah ah ah ah ba ba ya ya ha ah ah ah ah ah ah Verse 2 There is so much a man can tell you, ..there....................woa... So much he can say. there's so much inside. You remain, you....... My power, my pleasure, my pain, baby To me you're like a growing addiction that I can't deny.. yeah. Won't you tell me is that healthy, baby? Chorus 1 But did you know, That when it snows, My eyes become large and the light that you shine can be seen. Chorus 2 Baby, I've... I compare you to a kiss from a rose on the grey. been.............. kissed from a rose on the grey. Ooh, the more I get of you ...ooh...........the.. Stranger it feels, yeah stranger it feels, ...yeah. Now that your rose is in bloom. A light hits the gloom on the grey, Bridge I've been kissed by a rose on the grey, ...I've been.......................I've... I've been kissed by a rose ...been kissed by a rose on the grey. I've been kissed by a rose on the grey, ...I've been.......................I've... ...And if I should fall, at all I've been kissed by a rose ...been kissed by a rose on the grey. Verse 3 There is so much a man can tell you, ..there....................woa... So much he can say. there's so much inside. You remain you....... My power, my pleasure, my pain. To me you're like a growing addiction that I can't deny, yeah (L) Won't you tell me is that healthy, baby. Chorus 1 But did you know, That when it snows, My eyes become large and the light that you shine can be seen. Chorus 2 Baby, I've... I compare you to a kiss from a rose on the grey. been.............. kissed from a rose on the grey. Ooh, the more I get of you ...ooh...........the.. Stranger it feels, yeah stranger it feels. Now that your rose is in bloom, A light hits the gloom on the grey. Yes I compare you to a kiss from a rose on the grey I've..........been kissed from a rose on the grey. Ooh, the more I get of you ...ooh...........the.. Stranger it feels, yeah stranger it feels. ...yeah. And now that your rose is in bloom aah-ee-aah... A light hits the gloom on the grey aah-ee-aah... Outro ba da ba da da da ah ya ya ba da da da ba ba ee ah Ba ya ya ba ba de ba da da da ah ya ya Now that your rose is in bloom, A light hits the gloom on the grey. Just btw it's not a rose on the grey, it's a rose on the grave... I agree with fireman24: I think the drugs thing is an extended metaphor for the high he gets from being in love so all the drug references *are* right, but he's comparing the love to a drug . He's so obsessed with this person he loves - who lights up his world when it seems at its darkest - that he's worried it may be unhealthy or even dangerous. He used to see himself as a "greying tower *alone* on the sea" but then she came along and made his darker side light. Love "remained" like a drug which made him feel high without him having to take a pill. "But" he says, when life is at its darkest ("when it snows") he is able to see that their love is more than that because she brightens up his world. He states plainly in the second verse that she is like a rose on a grave. A rose completely out of place (being a symbol of life (because it's a plant) and love, on a grave - the most gloomy thing imaginable. This means her love is just as out of place in his life which he sees as a grave. It's strange and out of place ("the stranger it feels, yeah") yet it brings light to the gloomy scene as flowers do at a cemetery. In the third verse he realises that if she ever left him he'd be completely destroyed: in this way she is like an addiction. There is so much that other men can offer her, yet she stays with him giving him power and pleasure but also pain (the rose metaphor again: even though gives pleasure, it also has thorns so gives pain) because he simply loves her too much, is obsessed with her too much, and cannot deny his addiction.
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  • Sunny Came Home

    by tally1302 on September 20, 2006
    Sunny came home to her favorite room Sunny sat down in the kitchen She opened a book and a box of tools Sunny came home with a mission She says days go by I'm hypnotized I'm walking on a wire I close my eyes and fly out of my mind Into the fire Sunny came home with a list of names She didn't believe in transcendence It's time for a few small repairs she said Sunny came home with a vengeance She says days go by I don't know why I'm walking on a wire I close my eyes and fly out of my mind Into the fire Get the kids and bring a sweater Dry is good and wind is better Count the years, you always knew it Strike a match, go on and do it Days go by I'm hypnotized I'm walking on a wire I close my eyes and fly out of my mind Into the fire Light the sky and hold on tight The world is burning down She's out there on her own and she's alright Sunny came home Sunny came home... My interpretation was inspired by the movie "the burning bed" which I think was based on true events about an abused wife who eventually escaped the clutches of her husband by burning his bed (and their house) while he slept. She then took the kids off in the car. In this song however, there is a slight madness to Sunny - as if she has finally snapped. Firstly her name is ironic "Sunny" being bring and happy. It kind of gives that image of the abused woman who always makes an effort to appear as though nothing is wrong (who claims she fell down the stairs or walked into a door) "favorite room" is reference to being a housewife but if you listen to the song there is a slight ironic inflection on "favorite". The next line states that this room is the kitchen. The book and the box of tools, at first I thought of a a bomb kit... but maybe it is the Bible with fighting fire with fire? The tools is a box of matches. The chorus says how she is "walking on a wire". This, I see, as her tredding the line between sanity and insanity but also as her having to tip toe around her husband because if she puts one foot out of place, she gets beaten. The next line supports this by saying: "I close my eyes and fly out of my mind into the fire". This can be both a metaphorical escape from the beating and also her mentally snapping and going 'out of her mind'. The next verse is where I get the idea that she has finally had enough and mentally snapped. I don't have my own ideas on this verse, but I think the ones presented so far are good. I thought that maybe the list of names could be people who could help her/ she could take the kids and live with after she'd burned down the house? Then "repairs" says to me that she's finally reached a point where she knows that the only one able to save and repair her is herself. There is also a hint at anger with "vengence" so maybe the idea of the list of names being a list of her husbands girlfriends is right. Maybe finding out about his affairs is what finally makes her snap? The verse: "Get the kids and bring a sweater Dry is good and wind is better Count the years, you always knew it Strike a match, go on and do it" is said in a kind of demented/dreamy voice which is the final clue that she's lost it. "Count the years, you always knew it" supports the idea that it was a list of names of her husband's lovers that made her snap. "it" I believe is the fact that he didn't love her. Someone said a few comments ago that she brought a sweater because of the cold she'd be standing in while the house burnt... well I think it's that but also "bring a sweater" is a very normal thing to do. It's juxtaposed against this horrific scene to emphasise how she no longer believes what she is doing is wrong. It's also put there to show tht she thought about burning him and the house. It wasn't something spontanious but was well planned and thought through. "Light the sky and hold on tight The world is burning down She's out there on her own and she's alright" This just gives me an amazing mental image of her burning the house and standing watching it burn while holding onto her children. Even though the only world they ever knew is burning down, being out there in the world on her own and without her abusive husband makes her alright. Despite the horror of it, "light the sky" has a positive conitation, almost as if it is lighting the future (the skies always being related to the future). "Sunny came home" is repeated in a kind of ironic way because she doesn't have a home anymore but also in the more metaphysical way of her finding herself and "coming home" to the mental self she was before her husband abused her.
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