im so sick of the punk debate seriosly. ppl can aruge on this sight for as long as they fucking want, heres where i stand punk doesnt have one classfication and its a very flexiable genre. the thing is punk is ' the romones, the dead kennadies etc... seriosly these kids who listen to simple plan and all that other fake commericialsed crap have no idea what proper punk is. personally i dont even no so i wont comment on how much i no about the punk scene, i dont even like punk that much i like ska more thats why im so obbsessed with less than jake