I hope that our few remaining friends
Give up on trying to save us
I hope we come out with a fail-safe plot
To piss off the dumb few that forgave us

I hope the fences we mended
Fall down beneath their own weight
And I hope we hang on past the last exit
I hope it's already too late

And I hope the junkyard a few blocks from here
Someday burns down
And I hope the rising black smoke carries me far away
And I never come back to this town again in my life

I hope I lie
And tell everyone you were a good wife
And I hope you die
I hope we both die

I hope I cut myself shaving tomorrow
I hope it bleeds all day long
Our friends say it's darkest before the sun rises
We're pretty sure they're all wrong

I hope it stays dark forever
I hope the worst isn't over
And I hope you blink before I do
And I hope I never get sober

And I hope when you think of me years down the line
You can't find one good thing to say
And I'd hope that if I found the strength to walk out
You'd stay the hell out of my way

I am drowning
There is no sign of land
You are coming down with me
Hand in unlovable hand

And I hope you die
I hope we both die


Lyrics submitted by iagoAdmirer

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  • +6
    General Commenthow could anyone think things are going rather well for the narrator? are you kidding? he's obvoiusly depressed and in a total dead-end marriage that they can't get out of(they've hung on past the last exit). he hates himself and hates his wife, they're both drowning with no love at all between them anymore. he says "i hope you die, i hope we both die." how does that have any positive connotation?
    bamargeroon November 30, 2004   Link
  • +4
    General Commenti hope many people don't ever have to relate to the song the way i do, but being someone who went through a bitter divorce... i see it a totally different way.

    it's feeling trapped, and feeling like you're so far down in a hole that you'll never get out. it's hoping that you keep fighting, that bad things keep happening, because then at least you feel something.

    knowing that it's a bad situation, but not having the will to do anything about it.

    what cements it for me, is the part:

    And I'd hope that if I found the strength to walk out
    You'd stay the hell out of my way

    that's what really got me.
    dreamtwoon October 31, 2008   Link
  • +3
    General CommentThis song is depressing, but also very well written.

    My favourite line is: "I hope we come out with a fail-safe plot
    to piss off the dumb few that forgave us."

    (funny I'm listening to this song at this very moment)
    katilekaon May 08, 2004   Link
  • +3
    General CommentOh, and the biggest reason he curses and despises her so much is because the very fact that he has to continue seeing her face every day is because HE is a cowardly, weak little man. He can't walk away, because he's too depressed by now to do much but be miserable. So he just sits there and takes it and gets more disgusted and depressed. "I hope you die. I hope we both die." Think about it.
    Bullzeyeon October 29, 2008   Link
  • +3
    My InterpretationI don't interpret the Alpha Couple as having children, I think that they are just two people that prefer being miserable and rage-filled to being lonely.
    They stay together because they have some sort of fucked up union that both of them rely on.
    Like a drug that is destroying them both, they're addicted to the mutual hate.
    I think they wish they had children so they had a proper reason to stay together.
    Medafetson September 23, 2012   Link
  • +2
    General Commenti read this interview about the mountain goats and it said that the alpha couple is this alcoholic couple who he wrote several albums from the perspective of. so no, iagoAdmirer, your interpretation is almost the opposite of the song. also, i read that the mountain goats wanted to stop writing about these people, hence the "i hope you die/ i hope you both die".. its not about him as a person.

    whats remarkable about this song is its accuracy in portraying alcoholism. if you know any alcoholics closely, you know that they like their way of life as much as it kills them to. they are like walking juxtapositions, contradictions, etc. the mountain goats have this imminent doom within each song so reminiscent of addiction and.. oh. god. its brilliant
    fromthehouseoflordson December 05, 2004   Link
  • +2
    General CommentIve been listening to this song nonstop for about two weeks no. And the lyrics are what make it. Fed up. Melancholy with an optimistic tone. Every word is literal and blunt, but somehow there's still a little bit of ambiguity at the end. The whole song just completely embodies that kind of relationship. Having known old, drunk, mutually abusive couples that stay together until death, it's an all too accurate portrait, with bukowski-esque imagery.

    Brilliant song.
    bonsoron December 23, 2004   Link
  • +2
    General CommentI think what everyone's trying to get at here -- and what makes this song so great -- is that it's about the very fine line between love and hate. The opposite of love isn't hate; it's indifference, and our narrator certainly isn't indifferent. You don't have murder/suicide fantasies about someone you don't care about. But then, you can only hate someone, really hate them, if you've let them close enough to feel like an inseparable part of you. The irony here is that this song is all about "hope" -- almost every line starts with that word. It's just that hope isn't necessarily a pleasant thing. The narrator literally can't imagine a future without his wife -- that's love -- but then the future he _can_ imagine is pretty horrible. If you've ever put all your emotional eggs in one basket, you'll know what he means.
    kagion August 19, 2008   Link
  • +2
    My InterpretationI think there a few interpretations

    The first being obvious, a couple who hate each other. The music itself may be a hint towards the lyrics also. The song sounds like a happy sing along song, but once you look deeper you see that it is sad and depressing, maybe like their marriage. They are stubborn and neither one wants to be the one to give up, supported by this lyric here:

    I hope it stays dark forever
    I hope the worst isn't over
    And I hope you blink before I do
    And I hope I never get sober

    I think it's him saying he can and will beat her. They don't love each other and stick with each other because it's comfortable, supported by this (other's have said that's the way alcoholics are. I don't drink, but that's how I am with my current relationship, it's just comfortable):

    I am drowning
    There is no sign of land
    You are coming down with me
    Hand in unlovable hand

    If he is depressed with no sign of hope, then he is going to make sure she will also be depressed.


    The above doesn't make much sense though. Maybe there's a different meaning?:

    I hope I lie
    And tell everyone you were a good wife
    And I hope you die
    I hope we both die

    Why would he lie if he hates her so much?


    And I hope when you think of me years down the line
    You can't find one good thing to say


    I think what the above is saying is that he thinks this is all his fault. Maybe it's his fault there are no children. He wants her to blame him but some reason she won't. Maybe it isn't a mutual hate, maybe he hates her and she doesn't hate him. We only assume the hate is mutual, but what if she is forgiving and he isn't? What if he hates himself because he can't provide children.


    And I'd hope that if I found the strength to walk out
    You'd stay the hell out of my way


    He wants to leave the relationship because he feels guilty, but he knows he won't be able to if she stops her. That might be why he wants her to hate him.



    Well, there are a couple different interpretations in there, so either one might be true. Hel, neither could be true.
    DrShankumson November 03, 2010   Link
  • +1
    General Commentit strikes me that this is just one chapter in a long story of the alpha couple's relationship. if you would refer to the song oceanographer's choice (very weird tittle) the line

    And then we fell down
    And we locked arms
    We knocked the dresser over as we rolled across the floor
    I don't mean it when I tell you
    That I don't love you any more

    this happens to be the second to last song. perhaps they mearly expirence a wide range of feelings.
    Thanx to fromthehouseoflords comment about the changing of lyrics live. i would give many a bodily appendage to see them. consider yourself blessed.
    fuckedupdogon February 08, 2005   Link

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