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The Moody Blues – I'm Just A Singer (In A Rock And Roll Band) Lyrics 13 years ago
This song is POWERFUL. Again, I love the objective analysis, but I always have to slip into what it DOES to me to listen to it. If you don't mind...

Yeah, one hundred percent in agreement (sadly) with the analysis here of rejecting the throne of undue awesomeness, ok. But man, if nothing else this is a testament to the power of their music, and perhaps of something lurking in all human souls who picked up on their power and read "too much" into it... indeed perhaps they read too LITTLE into THEMSELVES...

But on to the awesomeness of this song...

It has an action oriented pace, from the "traveling" to the fleeting visions of so many faces he could never know, each pressed between the forces of their lives' necessities and the needs of the human spirit. This puts one in a state of bewilderment as one is spun around our world (as a world traveler myself, and possible worlds traveler, I get a good sense that this is actually what it feels like as you look back over the years of traveling, and also even as you look around you in the present moment during your travels).

In this whirlwind of experience and semi-connectedness with people only the stronger spiritual themes are able to emerge. These allow you to sense deeper meanings in everything which is formerly concrete, but now also symbolic. You feel the meanings behind the "words" of daily life, which are now not just sights and sounds, but IMAGES. Your roads are not merely pathways, but ways to many lives in one life. You take them where you go with them rather than they taking you.

In the midst of all the tradgedy and fear of the world, there is a powerful centrum of spirtual energy which commands a greater power than that fear and misery. It is in the soul which projects its own power INTO the music, and not in the music itself, and certainly not in the Rock and Rollers, who just make the music. All this seems to make my subjective interpretation tie in with the conventional and correct objective interpretation nicely for me, so I don't have to "come down to earth" too much and acknowledge the merely humanness of these Gods!! :D

Then again, I know that they know that it is only the Muse, and this a messenger from The Good (perhaps with some distortions as it reaches the human ego), and that this is not to be worshipped instead of the truth in one's own soul.

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John Parr – St. Elmo's Fire (Man in Motion) Lyrics 13 years ago
When I hear this song I feel a dynamic fire inside my spirit, as if I could fire my body like an arrow from the bow of my soul. I will take my hand and put it over my heart and stand there gazing up at a 30 degree angle, usually facing west (the direction in which one must chase the sun, live to the last minute, never give up).

I feel the power to get up from the dust, will myself through the pain, and hurl myself back into the fray.

I also feel the eyes of some feminine presence watching me, in awe. She is drawn to worship the intensity of my firey masculinity and surrender herself to my devouring flame!

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Men at Work – Blue For You Lyrics 13 years ago
He would like to have his gf back, but there's no way it's going to happen. He tries to replace here with other activities and interests, or rationalizations, but they don't work. The bottom line is that he is an alcoholic, and he realizes this. He won't be able to give that up, so maybe all he has is one last drink and a big jump.

Kinda ties in with "Highwire"

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The Police – Tea In The Sahara Lyrics 13 years ago
I always took it down a more literalistic path. I thought it had to do with the strange liason between a man and three witches. They cavorted with him for some reason which would have somehow fed into a ritual of theirs. In the end he was merely a mortal but their rituals, in perhaps some unideal way, led to their ghostly immortality. Now they are doomed to keep hoping to see a man who long since died. Then again, maybe that's just a male fantasy projecting itself onto the song. I imagine that I would like to be persuaded by a trio of fine desert witches to do some rituals with them.

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The Police – Synchronicity II Lyrics 13 years ago
The "door size" argument doesn't work, but the rest of what you say is well thought out. You might rely more upon the fact that it crawled out of the lake, as Plesiosaurs never, but never would do that, nor be able to. Their aquatic lifestyle and giant flippers where in perfect harmony with their giant mass, and they weren't ever going to crawl out of anything. So you could sinch it right there.

But more to the positive parts. You get it. The connection is there without forcing any kind of grisly scenario on the family. The connectivity is what is really grisly, and creepy. At first I was like everyone and tried to force a connection so as to say a man with a deeply repressed and deformed psychical aspect was going to finally explode, but then I gradually just couldn't buy this interpretation. It turns out that he's just the human hypocrisy which is acausally tied up with some monster's brutal honesty on the other side of the planet, perhaps even in a parallel universe. I keep wanting to tell folks "It's the ACAUSAL connecting principle...". It is supposed to be related without being some kind of forced analogy down to a T. Like tests used to see what is up in someone's mind, this works pretty good on that angle too. But in the end, people watch way too many horror movies.

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The Police – Synchronicity II Lyrics 13 years ago
Maybe, maybe not. But the nature of synchronicity is such that, someone or someTHING, somewhere, WILL kill... That's what is perhaps even more creepy. This man's repression of half of his personality potential may never lead to anything that should be in a newspaper or that might lead to a chalkline, but in the shadow of his self where the rest of him "might have been", there is a lot of room to reveal that, on the other side of the world, something is LIVING that side to the max, perhaps as a sort of non-causal connecting aspect of reality.

That's the Synchronicity Principle. As Jung was suggesting, things may "connect up" in ways that do not have to obey laws of time/space/causality, and therefore may have intelligibility through each other beyond the interests or analytic powers of the normative scientific paradigm. They may reflect each other quite intimately, while seeming completely unconnected, and this not merely in the mind of someone, but in the reality of the events themselves. They may even be USING each other as a sort of dynamic anchor, and so it is a bit two dynamic to express as a linear causation relation.

Creepy to think that the "nomal breadwinner with a normal headache from his normal hypocrisy" is the flip side of an actual and bloodthirsty monster about to commence with a nocturnal bloodbath.

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The Police – Synchronicity II Lyrics 13 years ago
Uhm... No. "No" to the Lochness Monster. Just, no.

He says it crawls to the surface. Now that to me implies that it had basically drug itself up along the shelf and then up the beach to the surface thereof. The Lochness Monster wouldn't "crawl to the surface". The "Creature from the Black Lagoon" sort of monster might do so. It is probably a good bit larger than mansized, too, but not a Plesiosaur.

There are plenty of reasons else to say that this is the better interpretation, but I'll just leave it here.

*X's out the "Lochness Monster" interpretation*

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The Police – Every Breath You Take Lyrics 13 years ago
There you go. You put your thinking cap on, I can tell. It's just a little too hard for the majority though, so now you will have to get ready for the Stalker Song zombies who will now start tearing wooden planks off yer house so they can eat your brain (since you used it, it has a peculiar flavor they enjoy). Just thought I'd give you a "head's up"...

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The Police – Every Breath You Take Lyrics 13 years ago
Finally, someone mentions the obvious clue. I was leaning on only the spirit, but you may as well bring in the letter of the law to make it plain. This is about someone IN a relationship. The "stalking masses" will now say "see, he's stalking his wife/gf".

But wait, this is where it gets ABSTRACT!!! (Knuckle draggers may leave now)

I don't have to follow her out of the room to stalk her, but simply have to always have this monitoring attitude in my head so that everything we do together or are together is sullied by this deepseated suspiciousness. That is enough to be "stalking" in the sense that means "in my minds eye, in my heart, she is never above suspicion". This can happen even without him KNOWNING about it. It can be entirely subconscious (and usually is in relationships, until it finally surfaces...).

Good observation, keep proving that some can rise above the riff-raff, thanks.

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The Police – Every Breath You Take Lyrics 13 years ago
I fully agree, see my comment below. Leave it to the nasses to envision a "stalker" scenario, as only they can rotate their lives merely PHYSICALLY around someone. Only a nobleman feels deeply enough to rotate his MIND AND SOUL around someone without having to physically demonstrate it.

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The Police – Every Breath You Take Lyrics 13 years ago
Uh... APPARENTLY... I always knew this was about the masses need to impose their own fascinations upon a work of art and their inability to hear what it is really saying (adjust beret, sips wine).

The masses seem to be stalking Sting, insisting on this "stalker song" version of theirs and demanding that he admit that was the meaning. They are clearly obssessed.

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The Police – Every Breath You Take Lyrics 13 years ago
Dude I could only give you one plus... sorry. It deserves about 10 per peson!!

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The Police – Every Breath You Take Lyrics 13 years ago
Oh God, here we go again, the "stalker" interpretation. It is not at all about a literal stalker scenario. Its about the way that someone can obssess about someone (as in not set them free.. per the other song...) but is only able to create a prison for them in the process. On the one hand worshipping and idolizing them, on the other driving them the other way by being so damned afraid to lose them. The result is that this person will inevitable start to imprison the other person and drive them away. Later he will find that he has imprisoned himself in his own obssession, keeping himself away from what he loves (and she will set herself free, whether he loves her or not... :P) Then at that point he MAY begin stalking her, should that be the next thing his obssession leads to. It's more about the essence than the form, but naturally the preponderant masses will always drag something down to the most knuckle dragging concretion of imagination possible. The video was a big adjunct to the song, and really gives an aethetic that has more to do with the psyche of an obssessive than of a stalker per se.

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The Police – Can't Stand Losing You Lyrics 13 years ago
It's about the stupid price of the male ego. He's articulating its multifaceted structure with all these different ways that it would express itself if it only had the words, but it usually just shows up in this or that situation or foolish remark. It is a like a moth to a flame, screwing itself over eventually. More about the ego itself and its pathetic antics than any actual scenario. Sting always likes to use poignant scenarios to get more abstract issues across. Ah, the stupid male ego.

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Pixies – You Fucking Die Lyrics 13 years ago
Hehe, yeah I remember this from the Surfer Rosa. I thought it reflected the band's internal acrimony in a tongue in cheek way.

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Pixies – No. 13 Baby Lyrics 13 years ago
I like how he gets really "inner" stuff "out". Like he just says it in a way that you can't be confused about. He is HOT for the mamasita. I do totally empathize. :D

He probably used to really be into Nordic women and then he sort of emphasizes that he has found a "new obssession" and sort of "ditches" the old obssession. I know, becuase I've been obssessed with just about all races of women in one way or another.

"Don't want no" is a double negative intended to convey earthy repugnance which indicates the intensity of his new fixation.

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Pixies – Crackity Jones Lyrics 13 years ago
Yeah, I do too. It's about that, not about the other. Life is too.

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Pixies – Blown Away Lyrics 13 years ago
The sun burning in deepest space, that is the subjective feeling wanting expression, being the most felt thing in the universe, he being the most sincere and honest in it and knowing it in his heart, but there is no way she can believe it, or feel it also. It is inexpressible, and yet it is the truth. Nothing hotter than the sun, but when burning in deepest space, no way for it to reach anything. Is it their relationship? Is it the way things are more generally? Both?

Something in the middle, like a storm, also plays its part to blow away all that tries to cross the infinite barrier. Even if it COULD cross, these other things just blow it away.

Is there any langauge beyond words that could get the message across, the way feeling his face with her hand might? Even that probably couldn't do it. Like a choked off scream in sleep, it won't get across. She probably felt it to mean something else, the shape of his face was intangible in what he wanted it to say, like faces in dreams, or her hand numb like that of one in sleep.

Maybe he thought she understood him, maybe he hoped she did, but he didn't get quite so far as he wished. Does anyone ever? Forever unknown, unfelt.

Or maybe that's just me.

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Pixies – Gigantic Lyrics 13 years ago
Orrrrrr......

It's just about a big black cock. Don't know, don't care. Cool song.

Me personally, I always felt like maybe the dude was big physically, as in physique , and thought maybe he was black guy given the lyrics. But maybe he's a white guy with really white teeth, and he's silouhetted or something... Or maybe I am rationalizing it so that he's not a big black guy... But now that EVERYONE mentions it or forbids the mention of it.. hell, it could be about his cock. Shit, good for her. Let her have what she craves, whatever it is. If she ain't getting it this way, she's finding another way courtesy your local grocer or sex shop, so no use getting worked up over it.

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Pixies – Gigantic Lyrics 13 years ago
Hehe, I don't know which is funnier, the 1,500 votes for, or the 1,502 votes against this comment.

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Pixies – Broken Face Lyrics 13 years ago
I learned almost every evil thing I know from the fucking Bible. :D
Fucking Jews.

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The Moody Blues – The Voice Lyrics 13 years ago
Me, I always got a sort of general feeling that this song is about life as such, about being an embodied soul and having to come to grips with one's own life.

At first you don't know what to do, and you need a teacher, so you ask them to tell you again, teach you again, tell you the rules, lay it on the line.

Then they do, and you hear it and understand it, but it is so amorphous, flighty (or is your mind/attention...). So you go out and try this or that, but you think you have failed somehow, and are "the lonely one".

You ask again and again. This being tells you "don't you know it is YOU?" and you finally learn to listen within, to the voice within, and trust this deepest and truest self.

Now you celebrate this wisdom that is within you and without you, and you see that it's easy now.
You feel the changes, already beginning...


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The Moody Blues – The Voice Lyrics 13 years ago
I just want to say that you have a good interpretation there. I haven't gotten addicted to any substances yet, but I am addicted to many things, such as the way I frame my world, interact with people, judge people and events, think and feel, etc. These things too are very powerful and can create a prison out of a life. In a way, I think physical addictions are not as powerful, and yet also in a way are more powerful. In any event, there is only one way to reach "Liberation". It is by the will to open up to higher and higher powers that require more and more devotion, love, faith, and honesty and sincerity. There is no other way, nor could there be another way. This, I think, is the "voice within", and when it is singing fully to you, THROUGH you, it reveals God and Creation in all Beauty and Glory.

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Steely Dan – Hey Nineteen Lyrics 13 years ago
Congratulations, you nailed it on both parts. I think whether or not he does, he at least sobers up to the reality that he may as well...

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Steely Dan – Hey Nineteen Lyrics 13 years ago
Well, you have a way of getting right back to the point with your last observation concerning the jaded last resort of "drunken, coke-fuelled sex". Contrary to some others here who think the protagonist falls apart into some pathetic drinking/snorting binge, accepting his aged fate, I think that it is probably more likely that he actually does envision (partake in) the "last resort". He goes through the protocols of trying to come from his "dandy core self" only to quickly remember and be quickly reminded by the generation gap type occurences that, yes, he's older and he is not on that level with her he "feels to be". He has to come down to reality. She also is probably the one who wants to seduce HIM with some tequila and coke/bud and that's more probably the truth of it. The groupies of today are a different animal than the sorority chicks of his past.

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Steely Dan – Hey Nineteen Lyrics 13 years ago
Ah yes.... THAT'S why we want to be rock stars.... THE GROUPIES!!!!! Damn my religious upbringing!!! I could have been a Juke Box Hero with all the 19 year olds I could stand!!!

Yeah, there would be some "emotional conflicts" as I aged into my profession, but what the hell? I can handle it!!

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Steely Dan – Haitian Divorce Lyrics 13 years ago
That's the obvious interpretation. She had her guff with her hubby not long after their (probably rushed and ill-thought out marriage), and she went to the black part of town to completely disinvest herself of her former male hubby/owner-in-marriage (husband). He was "divorced" from her by her being ravaged in taboo and very thorough way be a black guy. That's the story, right there. It's "Haitian" because a lot white womens go to Haiti among other hot spots to work out their itches with "spicy" men...

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Steely Dan – Dirty Work Lyrics 13 years ago
It could be about that, and it would wouldn't be too much of a stretch, at least not conceptually. I think this is true because basically it all boils down to will vs. habit in these scenerios. The question is do we have the power of will needed to overcome our previous choices (our karma...). We might even resent our situation, know we are responsible, and yet feel without power to change it even while we KNOW that we "can" if we only CHOOSE to do the hard work instead of the "dirty" work...

Sex, like any good drug (good as in powerful, not as in beneficial), has the power to make one lose one's will within a certain context that is highly ecstatic. The challenge of man is to lose his will into an ecstasy that is evolutionarily foward, beneficial in the long AND short term, and in harmony with his ultimate in true nature WITHOUT turning into an ascetic wretch (in my view).

I think the character is not fully forthcoming, btw. He sings only about her and him, leaving the "other man" out of it. The other man is being cuckolded, as someone pointed out. I think there must be a distinct pleasure going back to our ancient and archaic neural programming/evolution which involves taking another man's woman, and I think it is also in women, to be taken by the stronger man (at least symbolically in this case, because the hubby might woop some ass if he came home and caught this guy).

So called "forbidden fruit" is nothing other than the prize which can only be had by danger and will, sometimes in contests with the wills of others. Since all things precious are made more so by being difficult to get, the difficulties associated with having someone else's stuff (whether gained fairly or not) strike a primal chord in all of us, I'm sure not least of all the Pope, who wants to own your body AND soul.

Well, I say some of this from experience. I've known women who were separated from their hubbies, and their hubbies were assholes who were cheating on them anyway, and so this luscious woman is basically all over me, so what do you think I'm going to end up doing with her since I know all these factors? Yet even knowing these things, it was like cuckolding that guy, surely it was to her, and I even told her that I now possessed her and not him (and that turned us both way the hell on). Besides being a turn on, it was the truth. This is different than when I have to sneak in some dudes house to do the "dirty deed" with is wife while he is a faithful and loving husband who still takes care of her and isn't in the middle of trying to divorce her and leave her with nothing while cheating on her. Well, it is logically different, but somehow it was the same in a deep psychological way, to take her for myself... Damn that was good.

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Steely Dan – The Caves of Altamira Lyrics 13 years ago
I love this song's feel, it is freely dreamy and exploratory, like a child's mind itself as he freely ambles about his world. This ability to feel this way is natural for children, and it is necessary for art. Artists stuggle to maintain it sometimes, and they don't remember that it is something simpler than struggle, more like a "letting go"... It has an innocense akin to our notions of early man and of childhood.

I love the chorus, it has a "Flintstones" kind of rhythem, as does the music as a whole, I know, but I also hear a very CHINESE sound in it. I don't know if this is intended or accidental or subconscious, but the sound can easily be interpreted as Chinese, especially during the Chorus and immediately after as the horns pick back up into the next stanza. To me, we (as in western cultural lens-modified stereotyped thinking since the Romantic era) think of Asia, particularly China, as being fundamentally "other", "backward looking", imprisoned in the past and relatively timeless and persisting through time, artistic, right-brained, childlike, etc. For our dried out rationalist/empiricist/methodolgizing cultures here, we find these traits (real or apparant or both) to be somewhat healing, perhaps revitalizing (in a Dr.Wu sort of way).

It may be a specious point, but it is one which always seem to leap out in me everytime I hear this song. I've lived in China (and Taiwan) for over a year and half now, and in Korea for a year some time ago back when I was in the army, so I already know there is a big difference between expectations and reality etc. Anyway, there is still this Chinesey feel to this song for me.

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Steely Dan – Bodhisattva Lyrics 13 years ago
Well, I'll be damned if everyone else didn't beat me to the advanced interpretation again. Actually, I always thought of Bodhisatva as a veiled reference to the fascinating allure of the "Asian Other" represented as an exotic female in either Japan or China, for whom this middle-aged homeowning middle class Westerner is going to sell his house and stuff and leave all that behind and go live with her in her land, where he will sparkle and shine as a trophy husband because they just love White guys over here for their white skin (the whiter the skin in Asia, the higher your status, apparently). He senses this and is willing to make the trade. McSignificance can be tempting to the ego suffering from ennui, especially in Western lands bereft of any true moral compass or ethical propriety. Maybe I can just dive into the "other" side of something and make all this mess go away, or balance it out, or whatever. His hastiness will probably lead to disillusionment.

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Steely Dan – Dr Wu Lyrics 13 years ago
I thought it was like that. I was a mere kid and sort of got this sense of the song, at least as to the nature of the triangle and the nature of Dr. Wu. I didn't know Katy was a drug per se, though.

I found this site about Dr. Wu.

http://www.wushealingart.com/wuwho.htm

It is just like I imagined he would be. How the hell? The song said practically nothing about the guy, but this is exactly how I imagined him, right down to the sort of healing he'd do (not the method, but the essential nature of it as being mystical).

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Steely Dan – Dr Wu Lyrics 13 years ago
I agree DC that your analysis is interesting. I like how you ironically preface it by saying that someone has got this song way to complicated in the interpretation... :D

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Steely Dan – Any Major Dude Will Tell You Lyrics 13 years ago
As to the form it is very clever:

Any MAJOR dude
With HALF a heart

Any MINOR world

Etc. Just real clever, and that sort of helps you take it seriously when it can be clever without being droll. And that also makes one relax, as these are sort of like jokes or puns, and wit can soften things as he gives the needed medicine.

It's also "cool" and "hip", becuase he lays it out with street lingo, dude, any major player, my man, with just half a heart, he'd TELL you...

Yet he's kind of saying it in a logical, formulaic way at the same time:

Now, listen up class. Any dude such that he is major and has no less than half of a heart would tell
anyone, including you, that, any world such that it is minor and having fallen apart, will in all
cases fall together again. Or, to put it another way, any DEMON such that it is a)at your door and b)
is there at night will for a certainty not be present in the morning.

I don't know, but it's like big brotherly advice that has the substance of a deep lecture on metaphysics and the meaning of life while simultaneously being cool and hip, close to the street. It tells you that you are strong without patronizing you, and even chiding you a little bit (come on, have you ever seen a squonk's tears buddy? Well, look at mine over here...)

It says "shape up, be strong", but it says "don't worry about it, we've all been there" and yet "so were the Masters of Life. How do you think they got to be where THEY are, DUDE?"

:P

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Steely Dan – Deacon Blues Lyrics 13 years ago
I never new that there were football team references (didn't even understand what he said when he said "Alabama the Crimson Tide"... I just heard "They call .... the ....". Ok. Got it. But I sort of got the idea anyway. Someone else is called something great, so I want to be called something. But I didn't know "Deacon" was a reference to an all time losingest team. I thought it was perhaps an ironic reference to his own pretense of self-importance, simultaneously realized as a shame even while he was "going for it".

I also thought this song had to do with making fun of such "fake winners", people who go out there and do all this "wild stuff" to feel alive, when they really are just dead inside, the equivalent of cardboard props where true virtue is involved. But then again, it looks like a life on a reel, spread out in epitomal scenes before us, perhaps has it is also before him (perhaps after his death, as some suggest).

Then again, what of the "expanding man". Perhaps it is just is pathetic ego, expanding on the fantasy that he is about to become somebody before he dies, even though a self-destruct mode is embedded in this ego-fantasy, revealing his tacit knowledge that it is hopeless.

Even a bit of ipsissimos rage is detected as he wallows in his own tears and self-important implications of his own "music" (the music of the all-important self), and then emotionally flares at his audience (inwardly condescending to them as lesser "consumers"), compensating for his earlier fears of them now that he imagines some success, and daring to blow them off (or trying to). Yet at the same time, he knows he's just a loser like when he began, so his daring them to "sue" is a bluff. He'll die behind the wheel before he faces the music of his hollow success.

Then again, it could have all sorts of other implications, but I just wanted to get the negative aspect out of the way.

Positively speaking, there is a lot of courage in this song. Goodbye to whatever held me back, I'm going forward, and you can do or say what you will, I'm going to do this. Yeah, I'm going all the way, and it is a bit like crossing some fine line between this and that, but I'll do it. What is life worth if I can't feel this daring, if I can't cross supposed limits and see what is really real? I'll BE what I WANT to be, damn it.

I'll learn to work this here saxophone (or whatever you want to do), and I'll do it just the way I feel like doing it. I'll get it RIGHT THIS TIME. I'll do all the things I used to look down on, like curiosities behind the glass of my prudish attitude, my calcified worldview/gilded cage belief system. I'll live it up/out or die trying like some wild dude drunk behind the wheel of a car. I take it to the limit this time, no more backing off for who knows what weird cowardly impulse to hold back. No more holding back. I want to really LIVE, and I have the WILL to do it.

It might be a longshot, like the Demon Deacons, it might be what you call losing, but I'll be damned if I will listen, and you can just call me Deacon Blues... Sue me if you don't like it.

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Steely Dan – Deacon Blues Lyrics 13 years ago
I just found this place by way of a search just to get the lyrics straight, because ever since childhood I've been hearing this song without the benefit of comprehending certain phrases (like with MANY songs I love, and that I bet many here also love). Well, that's no big deal up to a certain point, but after a while you just want to know wtf that lyric IS, you know? On the one hand, I don't want to know, because I like my inchoate and childhood-based foggy interpretation, as that lets a certain aesthetic through that won't get bogged down in interpretation. But on the other hand, there is bound to be lots of weird interpretations, both subconscious and conscious, which also do have their impact on what you get out of the song, but also what you will never get out of it, and that stuff may be worth getting.. So now I am determined that there is no more any risk of some sort of deep psychological trauma if I go all out and check every song lyric for any song I love and have heard since childhood, and there may be many benefits from digging into not only the objective story behind the meanings, sometimes even offered by the artists themselves, but also to read what sort of flippy or weird meanings others get out of them, or perhaps even just different than mine.

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