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mewithoutYou – Messes of Men Lyrics 11 years ago
Here are my thoughts on the song. I found the comments by naptime1979 to be especially helpful in understanding its essence and meaning. The song is filled with cavernous depth, so I took it line by line.

“I do not exist…” Recognizes the “speck-ness” of who we are, but is projected in such a way as to be proud (Lk. 18:10-14). This is proven by the next line “sailing in our separate ships…” True humility will result in unity. Pseudo-humility will result in relational separation. This motif is buttressed later by the line “such distance from our friends…”

“Tiring of trying…” I had to mull over this line for a while before I think I got it. I believe it is actually a precursor to what the whole song is going to be about: dying to self and Christian maturity. At the end of the song the character has been through a lot, but he has finally understood what it means to die to himself and it has nothing to do with how hard he tries. The metaphor of the horseshoe crab is used to represent these stages in life where we have to shed off our old shells and put on new shells. It is reminiscent of the adage that Jesus told the disciples of John when they came to Him: “Neither is new wine put into old wineskins. If it is, the skins burst and the wine is spilled and the skins are destroyed.” (Matt. 9:16-17)


“Made everything look wrong…” is again representative of the Pharisee of Luke 18 and his critical observations of the community surrounding him.

“Our paper flew away…” this line is opaque at best. I will creatively venture that it’s talking about a condescending Christian who feels the need to correct others errors. He had the paper to write his “spiritual soliloquies” yet God graciously spared him the embarrassment (and the subsequent harm it would cause others) by blowing away his paper. This, however, does not hinder the stubborn sailor’s digression from truth; for he chooses to (half-blindly… meaning that he has been deceived) write his skewed thoughts on the planks of the ship in hopes that he will eventually share his “enlightenments” with the world.

“You caught me making eyes…” Represents the many venues of sin available for someone who has left the shore of the Almighty. I do not take this to be literal, but figurative in nature. I feel that it would also be valid to assume that this song is speaking of literal adultery; however I personally feel that it truncates its significance. To me, these women (or perhaps it is better to say the way that our character views these women) are symptoms of residing on a ship sailing in the treacherous waters of this world.

“I’d set my course for land…” Land represents the stable and ever-abiding presence of the Almighty.

“It takes a steady hand…” The waters of adultery against God are ruthless. They are the waters that toss men to-and-fro in the choppy, unstable culture of this world. (Jms. 1:6-7) It takes dedication, hard work, and above all faith to correct one’s prideful ways and submit to a God who knows better. Our sailor’s circumstance has everything to do with his lack of trust in God’s benevolent, omnipotent character. So he continues to keep his propeller in harmony with the waves, for it seems to him the easiest path to take.

“As there’s mistakes I’ve made…” The main character recognizes that he has gone too far out to sea. It’s beyond him to make it back. This is good because he has now noticed his own faults (which are many) and how distant they have made him from God. This is bad because he believes them to be insurmountable, even for God.

“The cloth low on the mast…” Sadly, the poignancy of the prior moment is avoided out of fear. Admitting defeat, he decides to forget past failures and let the waves take him where they may. This is not redemptive forgetting. This is denial. He retreats back to the familiarity of his high-strung lifestyle, musing instead on his social status and the perks therein. He has put his trust in worldly position.

“With tarnish on my brass…” Time slips by and he lets the residue of worldly ambition accumulate and compound within him. His spirituality begins to fade. He becomes crude and unappealing in many ways. During moments of introspection, he admits that he wouldn’t even desire himself if he were someone else.

“But a few leagues of the shore…” Fascinating enough, Weiss strays away from one seafaring metaphor and leaps to another. The man has now become a fish! This is a subtle shift, but important I believe. The man has spent so much time on the sea that he has been transformed; now becoming a part of the sea. Before he was merely sailing on top of the water, he had no intention of debasing himself to this level, but it happened nonetheless.

“I bit a flashing lure…” This could be widely interpreted. Either another fisherman, dabbling in sin as our main character used to be before his degrading metamorphosis, has him caught and is now painfully reeling him in; or… and this could be a stretch… but perhaps it’s a full fledged disciple of Christ (a fisher of men Mk. 1:17), who has caught him and so now our character is serendipitously being pulled back into the loving presence of God. Either way he is surprised by this turn of events.

“I still taste it’s kiss…” We are now peering back in a moment of reverie within our character’s psyche. The memory of that event (whatever it was) is painfully recalled. Yet the memory appears useless now. He has experienced something, something tragic yet compelling enough to bring him back to shore. The wounds are their in order for him to remember, but his spirit is now lacking in fervency.

“To an anchor-ever-dropped…” This part is difficult for me to interpret. He is anchored to the ground and so part of me is compelled to connect this with Heb. 6:19 “We have this as a sure and steadfast anchor of the soul, a hope that enters into the inner place behind the curtain…” It makes me think that maybe Weiss is speaking symbolically of the “in between” time between the kingdom of this world and the consummation of the kingdom of heaven. The water would represent the kingdom of this world, the land the kingdom of heaven and the completion of love that comes with the absolute removal of our sin that happens at the resurrection of our souls. He is seasick because he is still tainted by the movement of the waves and the remembrance of his prior life.

“Floating forgetfully along…” He attempts to forget his past excursion and has realized that there is no need to be strong in the Kingdom of God. God is our strength.

“We keep our confessions long…” We tend to live in extreme regret despite the truth inside the redemption of God. We should be praying for “his kingdom to come on earth as it is in heaven…”, but we frequently glance back at our past glaring sins. If we attempt to read between the lines, we may note that our character does not feel a complete fullness of the experience of Christ. He is not pessimistic, he is not optimistic; the glass for him is half-way. While this may not seem as triumphant as we would like in our perfect little Christian world, this does seem far more realistic. His life has been transformed, and thank God for that, but he is still a hurting man in need of recuperation.

“I drank a thimbleful of fire...” Well lots of routes that could be taken on this one. I’ll just go with my opinion. It could be that it represents a fire of the Holy Spirit, which grants him the fervency to continue on the path of Christ in spite of his seasickness, but is for now limited to only thimble-sized portions until the promised eschaton (Jesus’ coming back), where the fires of the spirit will be unlimited.

“I do not exist…” This repetition is meant to be a sort of “wrap up” of the song. It’s there to bring us full circle, but with a greater clarity of mind. This time the character of the story insists on his “speck-ness” in comparison with the Almighty, but as we will see, he also believes it. He has been on a journey, one which has scarred him, but one which has led to his fortunate change of mind.

“While watching sink…” I believe this could represent the death of our character. I am not sure, however, whether this is a spiritual death (dying to self, but becoming alive to Christ) or a physical death. Either way, the ship, which represents the sins of the flesh, is now sinking before his eyes.

“If ever you come near…” Perhaps my favorite lines in the song. Absolutely beautiful, and to me this should be the constant mindset of the Christian life. The mirror is representative of Jesus. If we have Jesus in our spirits, then the Almighty looks at us and sees himself. We have done nothing to deserve it, but all we have done is hold up our mirrors so that God would see something of value when he sees us. We aren’t trying to prove ourselves, because we can’t. We are connecting ourselves to a new object (the mirror), now that our ship has sunk. The same way that we became a fish earlier by sailing the sees, we will become a part of God the longer we continue to hold up our mirrors in honor of His glory.

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Death Cab for Cutie – Brothers on a Hotel Bed Lyrics 12 years ago
This song is a masterpiece. I had no idea that it was written by Walla, I assumed Gibbard was the author due to it's similar metaphorical wordsmithery.

At times I'm surprised at the observations people make on this website as they so often seem to deviate from my initial contemplations. My thoughts tend to be more abstract and fragmented I feel, thus leading to alternate conclusions about meaning. Thus it was with this song. While I must admit, the common interpretations result in a greater level of overall clarity,I can't resist adhering to my original musings.

Luckily, after glancing through some of the responses I found that I wasn't quite so isolated.I resonated most with Overmyhead's response near the beginning of the thread. I felt that the song was talking about one man. The relational aspect between two people appears to me to be at the periphery of the songs general message. I like to think it's about getting older, but still fealing youthful inside. It's the dichotomy that exists between your inner soul and your outer body. As the man gets older he begins to recoginze that his body is a deceptive fascade no longer matching his soul. He looks in the mirror and the person who he sees is different than how he thinks of himself. It's like he's trapped within himself. He feels young, strong, and vibrant, but the reflection disagrees with all of it. He senses the constriction in the same way one who anticipates a removal of gravity to let them fly would. I also feel like the song is about imagination. The man's powerful imaginative being is unable to penetrate the reality of his situation, which contains absolutely no mechanism for flight. The last line seems nearly haunting to me. I imagine a man sitting on a hotel room bed looking across from himself at a mirror on the other side. He says goodnite to himself (his reflection in the mirror) which he now thinks of like a brother. Within the last line he comes to terms with the seperation between his soul and body, but takes the notion to new awkward heights of dissassociation by imagining this different entity that stares back at him as a brother who he is familiar with but sepperate from.

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Mat Kearney – Renaissance Lyrics 12 years ago
I think the song is about the attachments of this world. The first stanza addresses the attachment of family. Kearney brings ruthless clarity to the possibility of losing one's family in one cataclismic moment. The middle stanza addresses the attachment of a significant other. The picture is one of a man's half-empty home harmoniously reflecting his half-empty heart. It is during these painful junctures of absence, or potential absence, that one begins to introspect and realize lifes fleeting disposition. Kearney appears to be expanding upon that moment of loss and the response that follows: renaissance. He is saying that when everything falls apart the only thing you can attach yourself to is God (and furthermore because of his "castle made of sand" allusion one would have to assume Jesus as the ethereal being being spoken of here). The message he seems to be giving is that, although everything else can dissapear, leaving you utterly alone, Jesus will never do that. The chorus that follows expounds on this as Kearney speaks as he believes God would: "I can be the wall when you fall down... etc." Kearney is purporting that God is the only solid thing a person can trust, and that it often will take a heart-wrenching removal before that person comes to that realization to the fullest measure, finally suspending themselves within the loving, ever-present being of God.

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