| Masterplan – Spirit Never Die Lyrics | 6 years ago |
| @[Ganondox:24369] I'm sorry Ganondox... You are WRONG AGAIN!!!!! I haven't played Mario Brothers since 1983. Nice try but I'm gonna have to rate you down... I know that hurts but. | |
| Manilla Road – Dragon Star Lyrics | 6 years ago |
| Excellent song lyrics but... We all know Alexander pulled the pin to loose the Gordian knot... lmao | |
| System of a Down – Chop Suey! Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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@[Ganondox:24361] "In an interview, Daron Malakian explained, "The song is about how we are regarded differently depending on how we pass. Everyone deserves to die. Like, if I were now to die from drug abuse, they might say I deserved it because I abused dangerous drugs. Hence the line, 'I cry when angels deserve to die'. The lyric passages 'Father, into your hands I commend my spirit' and 'why have you forsaken me?' are a reference to Jesus' death on the cross, as, according to the Gospels, it was one of the seven things Jesus said while dying." The record company made them change the word suicide to self righteous suicide. Oxymoronic describes self righteous suicide. Sharp but dull seeing how you don't know the term and are to lazy to look it up. You are stupid and just plain moronic. lmao... This band is Armenian American... You just wrote that about the Armenian holocaust that happened in 1915-23 so you can suck a penis. lmao The Sultan of the Ottoman Empire was a Muslim who had absolute power. The only thing you had right was they went after Christians and Turkey denies it BUT that fact has nothing to do with this song as I have proven you wrong again. |
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| System of a Down – Chop Suey! Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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@[Ganondox:24354] And how you saw any resemblance to the Armenian genocide out of this is beyond me. In, my, self righteous suicide Is oxygen moronic statement in light of the over all context. The written knows this. The Armenian Holocaust was responsible for about 1.5 million deaths where the Jewish Holocaust about 6 million European Jews and 17 million victims. Hitler almost ruled the World. It's not that no one cared it was the magnitude of it. There are genocides going on today. The Holocaust was noted because it was the worst one known to man. That one might stick out in my mind more because it directly effected me in the sense I never knew my grandfather who was a Japanese POW... |
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| System of a Down – Toxicity Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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@[Ganondox:24353] You can't take one lyric and shape the meaning of the song and be right... When I became the sun I shone life into the man's hearts You, what do you own the world? How do you own disorder, disorder More wood for the fires, loud neighbors Flashlight reveries caught in the headlights of a truck It's about the over all effect of population growth and a persons frustration with it. The last verse tells me he wants to reshape it into his vision of light. |
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| Iron Maiden – Dream Of Mirrors Lyrics | 6 years ago |
| @[Ganondox:24329] The reply was the reason you were wrong... Guess you just didn't get true intellectualism. That song is about letting go not mental illness or suicide. | |
| Linkin Park – Heavy (feat. Kiiara) Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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@[Ganondox:24326] “The first half of life is devoted to forming a healthy ego, the second half is going inward and letting go of it.” CG Jung |
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| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
| The only reason I have stuck with it this long is because I was learning by researching. It's a done deal... | |
| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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@[Ganondox:24318] If we know the writers created a concept song with 6 degrees of mental disturbance and can locate 5 definite then the part we are debating has to be meaning. About to Crash- bipolar, War Inside My Head- PTSD, The Test That Stumped Them All- schizophrenia, Goodnight Kiss-post partum depression, Losing Time- dissociative identity disorder which would leave Solitary Shell under autism. It doesn't get any simply put then that.. All my references which I had to post somehow reflect my original 1 paragraph. Jung's method of recover differ but his descriptions are relevant added with the National Autism websites descriptions that isolate the 5th degree within 80% accuracy to be Solitary Shell... All you have done is finger point and call names with no substantial evidence... I'm not the guilty one here Bucko... lmao You are pretty shallow. |
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| Iron Maiden – Dream Of Mirrors Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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@[Ganondox:24317] Sounds more like a lucid dream concerning the egos relation to eternity and its lack of understanding of the experience. The title "Dream of Mirrors" is a hook with two meanings but clearly sharing the same origin. Dreams are mirror as we examine this in light of our Jungian analysis concerning dream interpretation. If someone dreams in black and white it is actually the relation between the unconscious (black) and conscious (white or light). The dream may seem like a nightmare to the undeveloped mind but it would later make sense. That's my interpretation off the top of my head. " lack of color in his life, there is nothing interesting in his life...." Might apply without a broader scope of the content and what the writers are relating. "I only dream in black and white, I only dream cause I'm alive I only dream in black and white, to save me from myself" "Have you ever felt the future is the past, but you don't know how? A reflected dream of a captured time, is it really now, is it really happening?" According to Carl Jung and many others these lyrics clearly paint the picture of what I just related. It's an excepted fact in the dream analysis community dreams are the reflection of the unconscious and the way it speaks to the conscious in mirrored archetypes. When you look into a mirror what you see is actually inside out. In reality there is no such thing as a nightmare. It might seem like a nightmare because it confuses the conscious. Call my office and we can set up that appointment. I can work you in around the middle of the week... 0_0 |
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| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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John Myung and Jordan Rudess also contributed to the writing of this song.. I didn't mean to leave them out. Only clarifying do to your erroneous nitpicking... I would also have to point out based on your demeanor, volatile personality traits and unwillingness to except facts... There are a few opinions CG Jung had I disagree with of which I will leave unrevealed reserved for a later date... If you go there... |
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| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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@[Ganondox:24313] "you would realize how irrelevant analytical psychology is to this discussion...." The extraversion and introversion continuum theories brought out by Jungian thought would explain why ppl can relate to the song without being autistic. Jung believed introversion to be a personality trait we all share. The way the song presents itself touches this psychological phenomena... Bottom line John Petrucci/ Mike Portnoy are very talented song writers, Carl Jung continues to prove relevance from the grave and analytical psychology is useful in a lot of things (not just this discussion)... |
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| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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@[Ganondox:24312] "it's just that he kinda died a couple decades before autism and schizophrenia were formally recognized as separate conditions..." Eugen Bleuler coined the term schizophrenia in 1908. Carl Jung was his student in 1900-1909... Jung died in 1961. Autism was coined by Bleuler 1911... Autism is a fundamental symptom of Schizophrenia. Han's Asperger was influenced by Bleuler. When Bleuler coined the term he took it from the Greek word "autos" meaning "self." "autistic withdrawal of the patient to his fantasies, against which any influence from outside becomes an intolerable disturbance" You'll also find other information on topics like "schizophrenic autism" by more modern experts if you are really a student like you say you are. Without answering your foolish child like accusations I was revealing historic roots on the subject you seem to know nothing about and more concerned with winning a debate on a song that is clearly referring to autism of which I have more than proven... Good day sir, KingTrips PS... BTW, "king trips" is a poker hand. It looks like I just took all your chips... lmao |
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| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
| @[Ganondox:24308] Jung knew about schizophrenia before anyone else did. All my references directly support this discussion. If you had an understanding mind you would see I have correctly discerned the difference between the two disorders and proven the writers of the song being 80% accurate and your interpretation in the negatives... | |
| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
| I will forward you a copy of my Jungian mixtape... lmao | |
| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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@[Ganondox:24306] "Although his theories are discussed to a lesser extend than Freud's psychodynamic approach, Carl Jung's ideas carry an influence whose effects can still be felt today. The idea that we project in our personas not our true personality but an aspirational, idealised version of who we would like to be, and Jung's distinction between inward-looking introvert and outgoing extrovert personality types, have lead to the development of numerous personality tests which are still used today, including that of Katharine Cook Briggs and Isabel Briggs Myers. Jung's theories have also impacted on the field of analytical psychology, which is commonly referred to as Jungian psychology." Google it... There are a lot of us out there. It's also worthy to note the impact of analytical psychology was/ is embraced by some other brilliant female minds of our era. |
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| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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An idiot is "A person with profound intellectual disability having a mental age below three years and generally unable to learn connected speech or guard against common dangers. The term belongs to a classification system no longer in use and is now considered offensive." I think your reasoning is off... Maybe you should make an appointment at my office and we can have a therapy session... |
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| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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"and always on the "verge of psychosis" (presenting dangerous counter-transference problems?)." As a man he was a danger to himself Fearful and sad most of the time He was drifting in and out of sanity But in every other way he was fine Note the lyrics refer to depression... Also note a schizophrenic is always on the verge of an outbreak. Solitary Shell is about Asperger's Syndrome... The Test That Stumped Them All is about schizophrenia as we examine the lyrics (please sing along with me...): "Curled up in the darkness Searching for the light THE SMELL OF STALE SWEAT AND SHIT STREAMING THROUGH THE NIGHT" Portnoy/Petrucci did an excellent job describing mental issues... I think they just went a little over your head on it... |
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| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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@[Ganondox:24303] "Carl Jung, one of the founding fathers of modern psychology, had a lot of insights about so-called “schizophrenia” that our modern mental health system has failed to incorporate." "The healing of schizophrenia as 'soul in crisis' cannot be bottled into pills, or bestowed by applying information acquired through a university medical degree. As the great physician of the soul C. G. Jung demonstrated in his own psychiatric practice, it is an art requiring empathy, patience, a shrewd yet sympathetic understanding of human nature and, above all, heart." "My conversations with these analysts revealed a consistent (and odd) response to the idea of working with schizophrenics. For example, I "learned" that (to paraphrase their remarks) "JUNGIAN PSYCHOLOGY IS NOT FOR EVERYONE. IT REQUIRES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SOPHISTICATION, which state hospital patients [poor and "ethnic" people] tend not to have. Analysis is not an appropriate treatment for schizophrenia. Schizophrenics don�t have the proper ego-structure to benefit from Jungian analysis." There was also a general belief that schizophrenics are "unemployable" (not a good investment?), "low functioning" (uninteresting?), and always on the "verge of psychosis" (presenting dangerous counter-transference problems?)." There are 3 references... Also note Jungian critics tend to be less sophisticated. The other references came of an actual autism website. PS: Maybe psychopathology isn't your thing... That's cool... No need to get ugly just because there are ppl more attuned than you are... |
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| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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"Asperger's Syndrome: A mild form of autism where the individual may display some symptoms of autism, such as social, communication, and behavioral difficulties, but do not necessarily display poorly functioning language and intellectual abilities." Defiantly about Asperger's... |
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| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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@[Ganondox:24285] "It is common for individuals with ASD to experience “melt downs” or tantrums if forced to vary from the routine, especially if in a strange environment." He poured himself onto the page Writing for hours at a time.... "Skill sets for individuals with ASD vary from person to person. Some individuals are adept at problem solving, but find it difficult to make friends, communicate, or interact socially. It is also common for individuals with ASD to have a scattered skill set; they may display high competency in one area, but less strength in a skill that may be considered simpler in nature." |
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| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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He seemed no different from the rest Just a healthy normal boy.... "The signs of a developmental disorder can be seen as early as the child’s first birthday, however most individuals do not receive an autism diagnosis until the age of 4.2 Some children develop typically until approximately 18 to 24 months of age and then stop gaining new skills or lose skills they once had.2 Research has demonstrated that as many as 20% to 40% of toddlers that seem to develop normal communication skills can experience regression later in life.3" Taken from the National Autism Network... I think they know more about it than you or I... The only reason I know anything about it is because I have a friend that raised a son with it. I never got the details about how her son evolved with the disorder so I will just take the experts word on it. |
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| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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@[Ganondox:24284] A momentary maniac With casual delusions... He's a Monday morning lunatic Disturbed from time to time.... A temporary catatonic Madman on occasion.... "Individuals with ASD have been known to partake in repetitive actions that can involve either the whole body or just a part of the body. These repetitive motions can even involve particular objects like switching a light on and off. A CHANGE IN ROUTINE MAY SEEM CATASTROPHIC FOR AN INDIVIDUAL ON THE AUTISM SPECTRUM such as stopping at the grocery store on the way from school." Note the term "Monday morning lunatic." But never cared much to be held... Resistance to cuddling and holding is a symptom of autism.... |
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| Judas Priest – Prisoner Of Your Eyes Lyrics | 6 years ago |
| @[pedro10253:24282] Some ppl are slow healers, "love" transcends physical attraction and more on the psychological realm. | |
| Judas Priest – Prisoner Of Your Eyes Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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"As I was going under You Pulled me back to earth..." My ex had similar effect on me although I ended it. When we met she brought me back in touch with myself. I was going through old music on iTunes and came on this one. The reason I couldn't remember the song 32 years ago is because it was put on Screaming For Vengeance sometime after 2001. This is a top notch song. |
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| Judas Priest – Prisoner Of Your Eyes Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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@[pedro10253:24281] "Tell me that you're trying Or is our love a lie..." "Stop the heartbreak A little time will help to kill the pain." Sounds like a few of the ladies I have dated that like to let you hang on... The above verse indicate the relationship was more recent. Although not about females seeing how Rob is gay still a great song I can relate too. |
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| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
| One more thing... Unrelated to proving anything just personal testimony. I was a very big DT fan when this came out. I also would have to relate at the time was somewhat cruel. This song was instrumental in helping empathy evolve and sparked interest in the subject of mental awareness. At the time I was suffering from mild PTSD aggravated by excessive alcoholism of which I have come to grips with and overcame. You would have to agree the song has a positive side in that respect regardless if we don't see eye to eye on the exact meaning. | |
| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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"He stands on treacherous ground, and very often he knows it. The dangerousness of his situation often shows itself in terrifying dreams of cosmic catastrophes [see the work of Marvin Hurvich on annihilation anxiety], of the end of the world and such things. Or the ground he stands on begins to heave, the walls bend and bulge, the solid earth turns to water, a storm carries him up into the air, all his relatives are dead, etc. These images bear witness to a fundamental disturbance of relationship, that is, of the patient’s rapport with his surroundings, and GRAPHICALLY ILLUSTRATE THE ISOLATION THAT MENACES HIM” Both Schizophrenia and Aspergers may cause isolation. In this article Jung (in 1939 on Schizophrenia) seemed to believe there were a range degrees which can be reasoned true of both disorders. As far as what the song describes we would have to keep in mind Dream Theater merely painted a picture with some things to fill in. Aspergers seems to match Solitary Shell more so than Schizophrenia. They didn't create a psychiatric map when they wrote it... lmao |
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| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
| It's also worthy to note every human being alive has some sort of personality disorder maybe not to the extreme of some. Regardless, anyone with interest in the psych would have to agree this particular music recording does justice in raising awareness although doesn't go as in depth as Carl Jung may have... lol... You can always read his books to get a more in depth look into the human mind. | |
| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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@[Ganondox:24280] Mike Portnoy seemed to think mentioning a previous concept album important... "When we started writing the sixth song, we already had 55 minutes of music done. I knew in my mind, and even suggested to the others “let’s make another ACoS-type song.” And I remember John Petrucci saying “OK, but let’s not go past 20 minutes.” We figured it would be a single CD set of 75 minutes and that would have been it. As we do with all of our songs it just grows and grows and the next thing we know we are 40 minutes into the song. Before we knew it we had this giant piece of music, which I kind of view as a mini-concept record, a mini Scenes From A Memory. We knew once we had that we needed to come up with a concept that would tie it all together, so John and I came up with this idea of creating six different characters and each of us would write about three of them. So I wrote about three and John wrote about three. Basically, it’s almost like a tour through an insane asylum where people are dealing with mental anguish, manic depression, and issues like that. So we created six different characters and tried to look at their different stories and differences in their lives, but yet the common thread that binds them all together." -Mike Portnoy "The title track chronicles three individuals coping with mental disease, including Bipolar Disorder, Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome, Schizophrenia, Post-Partum Depression, Autism and Depression." This is off their website... If you read the entire lyrics of the song with all the parts it might help you clue into what they are trying to get across. "Particularly represented are bipolar and post-traumatic stress disorder, schizophrenia, post-partum depression, autism and dissociative personality disorder. Furthermore, the title of the album may also allude to the fact that each song on the album could be seen as a different form of inner turbulence, with the six tracks making another reference to the six degrees, along with the apparent reference to the six degrees of separation." |
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| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
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@GanondoxAs a pervasive developmental disorder, Asperger syndrome is distinguished by a pattern of symptoms rather than a single symptom. It is characterized by qualitative impairment in social interaction, by stereotyped and restricted patterns of behavior, activities and interests, and by no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or general delay in language.[31] Intense preoccupation with a narrow subject, one-sided verbosity, restricted prosody, and physical clumsiness are typical of the condition, but are not required for diagnosis.[17] Suicidal behavior appears to occur at rates similar to those without ASD.[32] I don't have the disorder but the song seems to outline Asperger syndrome. The only symptom of schizophrenia that mirrors Solitary Shell would be social interaction associated with paranoia. The Test that Stumped Them All is clearly Schizophrenia... "The boy is just simply crazy We honestly think that maybe Suffering from delusions..." Given the entire out line of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence one would have to conclude the writers of the song were referring to Aspergers... None of them have any the disorders to my knowledge just created a concept song... Dream Theater also made a concept album about past lives... |
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| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
| @[Ganondox:24204] Part 4: The Test That Stumped Them All is about Schizophrenia. Part 6: Solitary Shell is a mirror of Asperger syndrome. | |
| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
| @[fearpanic4:24203] Lol... I always liked the song and it always has lifted me but don't have Aspergers. | |
| Dream Theater – Solitary Shell Lyrics | 6 years ago |
| The song Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence is about 6 individuals struggling with bipolar disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder, schizophrenia, autism, post-partum depression, and dissociative identity disorder. Part 6: Solitary Shell is about Asperger syndrome. | |
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