Kingdom

this is a great song, and there's the meaning I take out of it: It's about a construction of a new world that now is full of illusions and desollusions. I don't mind that they're saying that there's no god, but I certain that the point is - this doesn't matter. we can't just wait from a divine will to change our world. it's our world! and we can make it a nice place for EVERY human, where the human will be free from every kind of opression, including the religion.

I believe that we'll conceive To make in hell for us a heaven. A brave new world, a promised land. A fortitude of hearts and minds. Until I see this kingdom is mine, I'll turn the darkness into light. I'll guide the blind, my will be done Until the day I see our kingdom has been won.

We can do this.

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This song is basically exploring the ideas in modern satanism or luciferianism: individual strength, rejection of outside false ideals, etc: no one will be saved, because the only salvation comes from the self.

Very nice use of subtle subversions of traditional christian phrasings as well, "My will be done" vs. "Thy will be done"

Although it's now two years after the last post I just have to say my thing about this one. I love this song, to me it's one of the most clear songs VNV made sofar :) (not counting Matter and Form albums cuz I don't have that yet). This song is all about creating a place where you can feel at home, be it a kingdom or a sanctum. The gods and idols that we have made aren't going to help us, every tower must be raised and a new 'fortitude of hearts and minds' must be build.

The only trouble I ran into with these lyrics is the two lines: No more the servants of the weak Devoid of thought or light to seek.

Maybe someone else can help me out with those, great song, that's a fact!

No more the servants of the weak Devoid of thought or light to seek.

It means us. We blindly follow our rulers with unwaivoring support. Our leaders want nothing to do with fixing the world, they're too focused on things that destroy it. We are slaves to our leaders, and in that aspect we ignore the true problems.

This song is particularly meaningful in that it expresses an inspiring amount of faith in human adaptability and integrity.

"I believe that we'll conceive To make in hell for us a heaven."

I believe this as well, and with this belief there truly is no reason to fear a hell, whether on this Earth or otherwise. There are is no need for the gods and idols we make...we have more than ample power to transform our existence.

Whiteknightmm2 is on track RandomOck is on crack waldemar is idiot and wrong and is NOT what Vnv nation is about.

Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven.

This quote comes to mind when I hear this song;

“The mind is its own place, and in it self Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven.” ~John Milton, Paradise Lost

I think this song is about the fact that our world has been totally corrupted - we have destroyed everything. He wants to win the kingdom back for us- reverse all the destruction and make our world a happy place- and in order to do that we must all simply do what we can- turn the darkness into light wherever possible, and eventually, we can save ourselves and our world

one of there better songs, althou more played then others. i find it as one of there deeper religous songs of course. basically if gods not gonna help , we will move on , and make this world ours.

I believe that we'll conceive To make in hell for us a heaven.

Did you think you would be saved By the gods and idols you have made? None will be saved.