Animist

Perhaps it's wrong to color a person's perception about lyrics like this and it robs them of the experience of understanding what it's about. On the other hand, judging from the number of posts for DIMD and the nature of the subject matter, someone might as well do it.

I think the meaning behind unDeveloped lies between the external ideas and the individual thinking them.

Animist, as in a person who believes that all physical objects have souls. Common among "primitive" people. Again, "primitive" people. Civilized, developed people would never believe such a silly thing.

Any mist? Any missed? Well, something got missed.

It goes to the title of all this... the idea that despite all our technology, vast populations all supposedly contributing something unique, our complicated societal system... humanity is still very much unDeveloped.

Some sort of internal resistance to the "pistons" as in the smaller aspects, more basic ground forces that contribute to the "engines" which create the lie we're living in. Perhaps we're talking about the people who contribute to the engines of this lie, or we're talking about the broken ideas and thought processes that contribute to the lie.

And it's not just that humanity is unDeveloped as in a form of stasis, but actually we're unDeveloping, as in rapidly moving backwards. Retrogressing. And since that motor is said to be through the eyes, we're talking about the mind I think.

Continual references to eyes throughout unDeveloped. As in all that you see, is not all that you see. Again the eyes betray you. And the world that you're seeing, the surface reality is a lie.

Shadowed distance? As in a dark future? And it overflows the environment, or media outlets. Does sort of make sense that the information one's bombarded with on the news would overflow, so much negativity right. It may eat away at you during this "extra time?" Perhaps have a corrosive effect on you, into the earliest of crime. Become numb to all the bad news but effects you subconsciously?

Once again, we're backtracking, despite all the technology and such we're actually moving backwards perhaps into a more animalistic state, despite what it may look like on the surface.

The endless stream of negative information cancels resistance by numbing you to the desire to change maybe. Because the task seems to great, requires too much energy, kills any spirit you'd have toward change. So the apathy and indifference become allied as the individual sees our problems as being too great and are in effect psychologically herded to a particular behavior, if you will.

"Extra muscle tatters chewing angels matted matters override." This part comes across as quite vague to me. But here goes.

Extra muscle being our brain? The added abilities of our brain compared to other animals. But it tatters because it's not being used, that critical thinking aspect of the brain, the ability to deconstruct and contemplate with the mind is deadened. So we go from being humans (with the ability to think in this way) back to something like cattle who can't.

Chewing angels? Grazing on religion the way cows eat grass, in order to distract yourself from the truth. Could be likely considering the title is essentially a religion.

But it's all for naught. Because the tangled mess of life's situations overrides the benefit you'd achieve through religion?

"Tables for the mating rapes the filling meats for different hate." Hm.

Maybe the table mentioned is like a religious family sitting down to eat. Reminds me of saying grace. So are they "raping" their kid's minds and filling their minds with misplaced something? And by raping the kid's minds I mean feeding them the vast falseness that religion has to offer or even the vast falseness that information in general has to offer. Also praying to God before eating an animal that went through some awful procedure to get to their plate.

Not sure what the "different hate" is though. Perhaps some bizarre subconscious redirection of feelings about how horrible some aspects of this existence are.

Like hate the devil instead of hating the actual reality based forces that cause problems in our world? Hate homosexuals, and on and on. Perhaps something to this effect.

"The simple trial and error mode to execute your inner troll." As in you bend and twist aspects of the religion in order to fit daily occurrences and issues in your life. And though I may be going too hard on the religion thing, it seems to fit quite well and makes sense with the title.

You could also see it as being just the variety of methods people use to divert their attention from darkness of our world. Even ideas not related to religion.

"Make it up to miss the point." That's conscious, subconscious intention to avoid confronting reality as it is by burrowing your mind in something that's made up (religion) in order to purposefully miss the point. But that goes for any weird thought scaffolding that diverts oneself from the truth.

What's the role of choice in all this? People just become religious because they're exposed to it from a young age? But then what about the people who grow up in religious households who don't become religious or become vehemently opposed to organized religion.

Not sure that's what's meant. Could be like asking sadly... Is this the role of choice? As in, why would someone knowingly choose to live an existence that so violently denies the truth. And to what extent are larger societal forces forcing the hand of choice by the world that's been created, etc etc.

So these religious people are always praying for change in their lives, always being obedient to the lord (or saying they are) and base all their life around God and being faithful. And yet the actions that would really create change, the actions that would intelligently address problems and deal with them are totally absent. There's a disconnect with the real world and sort of cause and effect relationships. The extra muscle tatters.

And Godot is apparently a very famous and renowned play about two guys who are waiting endlessly for someone named Godot to show up and he never does but they wait forever. I know nothing of the play but it seems like Godot doesn't exist at all most likely.

So you have these religious people who are waiting, forgotten by society maybe, or they've forgotten how to operate their brains personally. And their concept of reality is based on a book told by Godot, as in a book about someone who doesn't exist. These people are like the two characters in the play who wait endlessly for someone that doesn't exist. Just like religious people are waiting endlessly for a God that doesn't exist.

But after reading the Wikipedia entry it's interesting to see that many people thought that Godot represented God but the guy who wrote it said that it wasn't his conscious intention to create that connection. But then is says how he always emphasized the unconscious in his writing and so he might have subconsciously included a reference to God in the play.

This is more a comment on unDeveloped as a whole rather than this particular song, but it does contain some references to Animist

Born into an unforgiving world, particularly in America. From Day 1 the pace of life is too fast, there's a sea of entertainment that can be damaging that people are often not protected from, information from all corners, poor social services, a host of societal problems that aren't easily fixed... just so many traps one has to avoid in order to live a good life. And usually these problems work their way into individual lives and create havoc, some worse than others.

So throughout your whole childhood exposure to such problems can leave you unDeveloped psychologically. By the time you're an adult you're already in a rough spot, already in a hole. And from this disadvantaged point, this unDeveloped state, you have to move through the rest of life.

One such example of a problem one would face from the very beginning is growing up in an environment where you're indoctrinated with religion and denied access to knowledge that individuals in the past painstakingly spent their lives working toward. So you're like 18 years old and you've been fed a heavy diet of these religious ideas your whole life and have no desire for critical thought, like a salmon or something.

And so people are unDeveloped and they perpetuate these systemic problems because their psychological state was sort of fucked from the start maybe. Again, born into a world that compromises them from the beginning.

Then you look at how to solve the societal problems that put people in these positions from a young age. But it's like a snake eating itself.

If you try to put in regulations that attempt to control behavior and make things better, eventually, if you take it far enough, you'll hurt our economy which only continues these societal issues. This is because you're trying to control negative behaviors that people make massive amounts of money from (all over the world).

I guess outsourcing societal problems is more appropriate?

But if you start stripping away regulations like this, then there's no help for people who accidently make poor decisions or end up in bad situations from a young age. Instead, there's no guidance, structure or assistance and your problems are your own to solve. If you make mistakes it's your fault because it's too dangerous to develop social services that help you.

So when everything's based around money you're in the stomach of a snake that's eating itself to an extent because too much freedom or too many regulations runs you into the ground.

Best thing you can do if money is still going to exist is keep the system somewhere in the middle perhaps, in awful mediocrity, and focus on changing people's minds within the system instead of changing the system itself. But... for every person who makes a positive change in their life, there's another who is forced down the wrong path by this unforgiving environment.

Individually you may find a way to escape the wreckage of this system eventually or avoid it totally if you're extremely lucky, but that's clearly not what happens for so many.

All you can do is hope incremental changes stick I suppose and people's thought processes will change at some point, some way. But I'm not sure that's the conclusion that the author came to in making unDeveloped.

It's like with eating fast food. That type of food causes so many problems in America particularly. But so many people rely on that industry for employment. Maybe overall it's bad for the economy because of the health costs but in theory it would be good for the economy for fast food chains to exist and it's up to the individual to make the right choice. But even if you convince one individual to eat differently, at least minimizing their consumption of such food, there's another young person with no money forced to eat that way. And does the government come in and tell McDonald's what they can and can't sell to consumers? That would hurt the economy and probably end up killing jobs as people would eat there less because it would be less addictive. But they would just spend money in other sectors right? And so jobs would adjust from one area to another. But if the food is less addicting they'll consume fewer calories, giving companies less money, but I guess that's less healthcare costs later on? But fewer healthcare jobs?

A poor analysis, but it does seem like things just go back and forth like this but we've heard it all before. Have to keep the prison system alive because it creates jobs and helps the economy, etc etc same old story.

So bad shit stays in this system because it's seemingly financially lucrative and so the problems perpetuate themselves. Society is just feeding on itself.

You have to wonder if the conspiracy theory type of attitude that shows its scales throughout unDeveloped is perhaps some construct designed in order to be able to accept the state of the world.

Like instead of thinking up a God who is the creator of the many benign occurrences in the world, you create a Devil who is responsible for all the problems.

Because if the world is controlled by the long-reaching omnipresent tentacles of this nefarious construct then working to change things becomes less of a concern.

Instead, absolutely all you can possibly do is "wake up" to what's going on around you. And until everyone "wakes up" nothing can be done.

So once again, you retreat into your shell where all you can possibly pay attention to is your own existence because this conspirational power is too great for you to combat alone. Other people need to wake up for change to occur. A process that involves the vague ideas of "expanding your consciousness" or "understanding the truth." That change will occur from this "awakening" alone. Or in the provocation of some large-scale civil unrest that never happens.

The inaction of such people is interesting considering their views, if they hold them to be absolute truth. You'll see lone wolf type of stuff, but nothing organized that actually moves closer to doing anything positive. Of course we've seen conspiracy theories turn into genocide in the past, but you can't paint them all as being the same in terms of ideas. The more modern ideas typically don't carry any serious combined action it seems.

No doubt there's evidence for organized conspiracy, but you have to question supposed truths when they carry so much weight. What's wrong with a worldview that doesn't incorporate those sorts of ideas?

Difficult to justify inaction, cognitive inequities when it comes to understanding why certain events have occurred. That is, the official version that you witness is too hard to take in and it doesn't have the flow of a nice narrative, too jagged, too many things you don't fully understand and the dots are difficult to connect.

Moreover, there's the idea of having access to sort of hidden knowledge, a separator for you against a massive cross-section of the population (the majority of people) who are in the dark about such issues.

These heavy belief systems are extremely problematic and, I think, exist because they serve specific intrapersonal functions.

But do I only suggest this because I can't accept the truth of what's really going on?

And then somehow, though the faces look different and the words change position, you can't distinguish your discussion with the fundamentalist christian from your discussion with the ardent conspiracy theorist. It's like the same song, just a different verse.

Belief systems are designed to serve specific intrapersonal functions. If you end up in a situation where a belief system isn't necessary to you, truth becomes less meaningful because you're only concerned with the truths of specific actions you're involved in. But critical thinking and inquisitiveness are really something to be celebrated, but when you take the easy road to pursue those interests and are bombarded with misinformation (often not deliberately), you're going to have a hard time truly getting to the bottom of anything.

It's a strange world we live in where people who claim to be most connected to the concrete truth of the world are perhaps the same ones who could be hiding from it the most. Even stranger when you've been there.

But so many problems... No way to solve 'em. Have to run them through your machine, change into something else more comfortable. Or just put your head in the sand.

No matter what you do though, you won't be able to stare directly into this metaphorical sun for very long. Because if you do, the last meal you consume... will probably taste like gun metal. Or something to that effect.