Thinkin' Bout You

I agree! When he came out, the song finally made sense to me. It definitely felt like it was about a man vs. a woman that he's talking about.

This is strictly hypothetical. So I apologize in advance but I'm wondering if there's something more about the line regarding "color to black & white"? Personally speaking for myself (And I am gay). Do you feel it also has to do with racial boundaries possibly preventing the relationship from going further. <br /> <br /> I apologize for the hypothetical analogy. I'm just so enamored with this song. I feel like there's a sense of alienation, even a quiet desperation or plea, yet somehow a sad resignation (maybe acceptance?) of the relationship not being able to go further due to some inane logic of boundaries. I'm babbling but please comment if you can. Or tell me I'm being an idiot. Thanks and take care.

mwanteroon, you know I've actually also thought about what you said about the line "Til it turns from color to black and white" and whether it was a race thing.<br /> <br /> It could also be just a way of him saying that he wished things were simpler, that it was more black and white and not the complicated relationship they have.<br /> <br /> And I don't really know why but I kind of feel like the guy in question is either white or hispanic. Maybe it's that line that planted that thought in my brain, idk. I also have it in my mind that the guy is/was in the military. There are like 3 different songs that allude to the military in some way, including this one (the fighter jet line).<br /> <br /> I don't know, I've just been listening to Channel Orange constantly since it dropped and this is the shit I think about lol

@ Lilybear Thanks. It is an amazing album. The reason I bring it up is the lyric itself has so many meanings behind it. Not only does it construe the dissolving of a relationship but also how the relationship will become a memory. To even the issues that precluded the relationship dissolving and the acceptance that it went as far as it could. To even a standard of social topics that would drive the relationship to never work. Whether from racial standpoints as a whole. Or by the fact the two individuals differ in opinions about certain aspects dealing w/ each other. Hence, the "Black and White" reference alluding to going down the same road. Ever and ever. <br /> <br /> It is a beautiful, powerful song. And I have to say that Frank Ocean, AKA Christopher Breaux, is an amazing, profound poet who literally opened his heart to everyone. And you can clearly see, hear and feel it in his songs. Brilliant talent IMO.

Agreed! I kinda think he was still in the closet when he wrote about this, and didn't know what to do with his feelings for this mysterious man. The line: "We'll go down this road til it turns from color to black and white" - my interpretation of that is, "colour" (rainbow, gay pride) to black and white ("straight") .. he's still dealing with his feelings and thinks that maybe he can get over what he presumes is a phase of some sort.

Damn, I love reading everyone's thoughts on these lyrics. It's really interesting.<br /> <br /> Oh, and btw mwantero, you asked in your first response if you think that the 'black and white' line has to do with racial boundaries preventing the relationship from going further. I don't think that's the kind of thing that would stop either of them from being together if being together is what they both wanted. Bigotry against bi-racial relationships is sooo last century... an OF member wouldn't care about that :P<br /> <br /> It's about us still not being able to reach a point in history where people can just love whoever they want without any social repercussions. Two men can't love each other openly because it's not socially acceptable, ESPECIALLY in the hip hop community.... It sucks.<br /> <br /> This is why what he's saying is so important.

mwantero in response to your question about the color to black and white line, it seems to me that he's saying that his memory of what he felt for his first love is never going to leave him, it's just going to become a more and more distant memory until it's so far away it seems "black and white." But it will always remain an inseparable part of him, all of those emotions that he felt have left their mark, all the highs and the lows.

Excellent post, I never thought of parts of the lyrics being from the opposite side!

The “I got a beach house I can sell you in Idaho” line isn’t random. <br /> <br /> I got a house I can sell you is a well known sarcastic saying; it’s equivalent to saying yeah right. <br /> <br /> The fact that it’s a beach house and in Idaho only enhances the sarcastic sentiment since there aren’t any beaches in Idaho, or at least the kind people are used to seeing. <br /> <br /> Thus <br /> <br /> “No, I don't like you, I just thought you were cool enough to kick it<br /> Got a beach house I could sell you in Idaho”<br /> <br /> translates to <br /> <br /> Girl: You don’t really like me you just thought I was cool/cute and that’s why you’re hanging/kicking it with me.<br /> Frank (being sarcastic): Yeah and I got a house that I could sell you (translation: GTFO with that expletive girl!). <br /> <br /> My interpretation of the fighter jet line is this: <br /> <br /> If you have an item that is broken, such as a car in the shop, are you getting to use it? What he’s saying is he has a girl that’s a real catch. If you were to think of her as a high level car she would be a Ferrari or a McLaren F1, only better and thus he compares her to a jet, which is what really rich people are buying nowadays anyway. There’s a catch, however, because they can’t take their relationship to the next level because of the girl’s doubts about Frank’s true feelings. Thus, he can’t release the full potential of their relationship just as you can’t release the full potential of a jet or a plane w/o flying it. I also like your interpretation that he is literally lying down thinking about her.

there are lots of beach houses in idaho it's called BEAR LAKE <br /> also this song is about a MAN

I love what you said about the "lying down" double meaning. never would have caught that (: and beach house in idaho could be "we can escape somewhere & he can make himself comfortable in his mind/body/soul lol Idaho=(I'm the hoe) basically, like julia roberts in pretty woman when she says "I appreciate this whole seduction thing you've got going on here, but let me give you a tip: I'M A SURE THING. wink in a joking way, of course :D

@pytiffany210 Haha ya'll are funny, seriously missing his sarcasm with the beach house line and how that ties into the whole section of the song. If someone will believe anything you tell them, a common joke is to offer to sell them a beach house in a place where no beach houses exist (lake houses in Idaho people, not beach houses). Fighter jet, same thing. He doesn't have one, he's saying, "If you really believe I don't like you, you'll believe anything." Finally he ends it by calling himself out, saying "I'm lying" and then sliding out of that too by adding "down." He's playing.

@realFuggenG I agree with your first interpretation although that's mostly because of my current situation