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Instant paper, compromise
Audience stills survives
Underneath a bloody cape
Audience still escapes
Feeling torture on the page
Audience comes of age
Fucking donkeys , right disease
Blaming is never pleased

The eyes can't protect you through
The compromising I
Swore allegiance to
The lie!

Wicked paper, aspirates
Audience fearing hate
Over top , whats underneath
Audience is in defeat
Free to worry , keep the peace
Audience in disgrace
Someone's knocking on their knees
All he says: "Can't release"

The eyes I'll protect you through
The compromising I
Swore allegiance to
The lie!
The flies, self protection proves
The compost smelling piles
To pass on over to
A future...

Hollow...
Hollow...Sliding deep in it.
Hollow...Somethings full of shit
Hollow... Each and every bit
Hollow...Something smells like shit
Hollow...


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    General Comment*Perhaps it's wrong to color a person's perception about lyrics like this and it robs them of the experience of understanding what it's about. On the other hand, judging from the number of posts for DIMD and the nature of the subject matter, someone might as well do it.*

    *I think the meaning behind unDeveloped lies between the external ideas and the individual thinking them.*

    And so an individual compromises their message for money or some other reason? But I guess it's OK because it's not like anyone's dying. The message isn't that important. And the person creating the message is bleeding all over the "page" while creating it but maybe it's looked at in a different light, it's marginalized. Kind of like, you can't be taken seriously because you're screaming on a stage wearing makeup and flailing around. Also, as everyone knows, blaming people for things never gets anything done anyways.

    Could also be people who are compromised. You have to do things for money that you wouldn't do other wise, you're compromised by this system.

    Self-protection, and watching out for your own situation first and foremost, condemns you to a certain life, and a certain way of dealing with the world. And progress is stifled when everyone adopts this thought process because they can only sacrifice so much of their own existence to help another person or attempt to enact some sort of change on this planet.

    And I suppose the "lie" is that we aren't all connected. That each person is their own individual separated from the rest of the world. Although, the lie could also be the selfishness that is created by our economic system. Or the general "construct" idea that permeates unDeveloped. Bottom line being that when each person thinks only of themselves and their own situation (which is what our economic system specifically encourages you to do, that's the whole point of it) the world turns into the pile of shit we're looking at these days. And the future experiences steady degradation, but it's no problem because at least the predecessors had a good time spewing garbage everywhere.

    There might be another layer to this track too about how people devise a variety of strategies to protect themselves socially, among other ways. Instead of saying what's really going on, what's really on their mind, people bite their tongues because they're afraid of what others might think of them if they speak up. And so they protect themselves by further accepting the state of things and not "rocking the boat" so to speak. And so now these people are free to worry about the world and they'll keep the peace by not standing up and saying anything.

    But this song probably goes even deeper than that into letting go of one's ego and attachment to self. In my opinion, that's the person who's "knocking on their knees." He can't let go of that ego and it keeps him stagnant, and further, the whole world stagnant.



    I think everything's "full of shit" because this self-protective behavior is akin to lying. People increasingly bite their tongue and do not voice their concerns and desire for change and in doing so are essentially lying. Everyone's full of shit. Basically, suppression of the truth, even on the most basic individual level, is the biggest problem we face.

    And as a result, the future we're left with is getting exponentially worse, but it's OK because you'll be dead before you feel the effects of any of this (hopefully?). You'll be fine, so nothing to worry about really. And the future of our species? well that's the future's problem, we can only be held responsible for our own tiny existence. We have to worry about our own situation after all, can't worry about everyone else. And so on and so on...

    Also, you can look at this song as being directed at the "fans" similar to the lyrics of "Comedown."
    DrGarlicon August 05, 2011   Link
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    General CommentIn the end, if you take nothing else from unDeveloped, maybe the most important thing is the idea of misinformation.

    For the type of person who is deeply concerned with congruence in the world, the type of person who seeks out some sort of truth to stand on in order to understand existence, this misinformation can be very problematic.

    And it's the fact that it's difficult, sometimes impossible to use science to inquire into the hidden intentions or meanings of other people's actions. Even more difficult is when groups of people are piled up into institutions and you attempt to reach firm conclusions about those situations. Then imagine how that difficulty can be magnified even further when you're examining these situations from your living room and on top of that you have a pretty weak basic education you're relying on.

    So you're deeply concerned with finding the truth, but the truth you're looking for is perhaps impossible to determine and you're looking for it from a poor vantage point (making it even harder to determine).

    But misinformation flows in both directions. On one hand, maybe you can't accept the "Official Version" that is presented to you. And on the other hand, the "Official Version" has been altered and obscured because it's assumed that you can't accept it. Or more specially, everyone obscures the truth in their heads, almost subconsciously, before they disseminate it to the outside world.

    There's a difference between a person searching for social truths from their couch and a person measuring the natural world using science. But one is so much more boring than the other, and seems so much less pertinent, right?

    And so people approximate the truth as best they can from their position in the world, and alter the "Official Version" as much as they have to in order to feel OK about it from both the dissemination angle and the acceptance one.

    So misinformation just keeps piling up, just piles of shit that keep growing and distorting reality. The Internet is a good example, obviously. And from both ends, in many cases, the people who put forth this false information think they are doing someone a great service, they think they're protecting something or promoting something. But it's all just bullshit.

    It's not the case that truth doesn't exist either, that you can't possibly trust any information. It's just that, with the gross excess of misinformation, you grow distrusting of any information you're presented with which is problematic.

    Finally...

    Beware of those who claim to possess ultimate truths about the world. But also beware of those who question the ground they walk on.

    And it's not that you should stop crying about all the poor decisions seen, just have to stay away from the alliance between that and your insides. Also knowing that it's not necessary to devise a thesis of everything and make constant connections between all situations. You're most likely stumbling in the dark anyways.
    DrGarlicon August 14, 2011   Link
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    General CommentYou have to wonder if the conspiracy theory type of attitude that shows its scales throughout unDeveloped is perhaps some construct designed in order to be able to accept the state of the world.

    Like instead of thinking up a God who is the creator of the many benign occurrences in the world, you create a Devil who is responsible for all the problems.

    Because if the world is controlled by the long-reaching omnipresent tentacles of this nefarious construct then working to change things becomes less of a concern.

    Instead, absolutely all you can possibly do is "wake up" to what's going on around you. And until everyone "wakes up" nothing can be done.

    So once again, you retreat into your shell where all you can possibly pay attention to is your own existence because this conspirational power is too great for you to combat alone. Other people need to wake up for change to occur. A process that involves the vague ideas of "expanding your consciousness" or "understanding the truth." That change will occur from this "awakening" alone. Or in the provocation of some large-scale civil unrest that never happens.

    The inaction of such people is interesting considering their views, if they hold them to be absolute truth. You'll see lone wolf type of stuff, but nothing organized that actually moves closer to doing anything positive. Of course we've seen conspiracy theories turn into genocide in the past, but you can't paint them all as being the same in terms of ideas. The more modern ideas typically don't carry any serious combined action it seems.

    No doubt there's evidence for organized conspiracy, but you have to question supposed truths when they carry so much weight. What's wrong with a worldview that doesn't incorporate those sorts of ideas?

    Difficult to justify inaction, cognitive inequities when it comes to understanding why certain events have occurred. That is, the official version that you witness is too hard to take in and it doesn't have the flow of a nice narrative, too jagged, too many things you don't fully understand and the dots are difficult to connect.

    Moreover, there's the idea of having access to sort of hidden knowledge, a separator for you against a massive cross-section of the population (the majority of people) who are in the dark about such issues.

    These heavy belief systems are extremely problematic and, I think, exist because they serve specific intrapersonal functions.

    But do I only suggest this because I can't accept the truth of what's really going on?

    And then somehow, though the faces look different and the words change position, you can't distinguish your discussion with the fundamentalist christian from your discussion with the ardent conspiracy theorist. It's like the same song, just a different verse.
    DrGarlicon August 15, 2011   Link
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    General CommentBelief systems are designed to serve specific intrapersonal functions. If you end up in a situation where a belief system isn't necessary to you, truth becomes less meaningful because you're only concerned with the truths of specific actions you're involved in. But critical thinking and inquisitiveness are really something to be celebrated, but when you take the easy road to pursue those interests and are bombarded with misinformation (often not deliberately), you're going to have a hard time truly getting to the bottom of anything.

    It's a strange world we live in where people who claim to be most connected to the concrete truth of the world are perhaps the same ones who could be hiding from it the most. Even stranger when you've been there.

    But so many problems... No way to solve 'em. Have to run them through your machine, change into something else more comfortable. Or just put your head in the sand.

    No matter what you do though, you won't be able to stare directly into this metaphorical sun for very long. Because if you do, the last meal you consume... will probably taste like gun metal. Or something to that effect.
    DrGarlicon August 15, 2011   Link

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