The Great Mandella (The Wheel of Life) Lyrics
And do his job like a man.
And he answered "Listen, Father,
I will never kill another."
He thinks he's better
than his brother that died
What the hell does he think he's doing
To his father who brought him up right?
Take your place on The Great Mandala
As it moves through your brief moment of time.
Win or lose now you must choose now
And if you lose you're only losing your life.
With his meal of bread and water today.
He is fasting 'til the killing's over
He's a martyr, he thinks he's a prophet.
But he's a coward, he's just playing a game
He can't do it, he can't change it
It's been going on for ten thousand years
Hunger stopped him, he lies still in his cell.
Death has gagged his accusations
We can hate now, now we can end the world
We're not guilty, he was crazy
And it's been going on for ten thousand years!
As it moves through your brief moment of time.
Win or lose now you must choose now
And if you lose you've only wasted your life.

I can't say enough about this song. It's absolutely haunting. It tears my heart out and leaves me shaken. The phrasing and the chord progression is unique and disturbing and lovely. But it is the story that is devastating.
A man of principle, a man of peace and dignity, gives up everything he has to effect change. Like so many have. He dies alone in a jail cell for his principles, without a friend, estranged from family, not appreciated or understood, an "enemy of the people". And ultimately there is no indication his sacrifice matters in the least: the killing continues unabated, he not a martyr for his cause. He was never thanked or supported and he will never know if he made the right decisions.
We can feel certain the man was admirably in the right. The songwriter clearly agrees values this man's principles and courage, even if the 3 speakers in the song do not. We see him as a lonely prophet being cut down by the runaway train of cruelty and ignorance and fear that is our society. Like so many have. But he is never celebrated, never martyred. He is forgotten or reviled. An utterly purposeless tragedy.
He has taken his place on the great mandala. For good or ill. The wheel of time doesn't notice.
And so have the others in the song: the father, the jailer, the ruler, and the people. They take their places beside his. And the wheel rolls on, until they aren't even a memory.
Is change even possible? The wheel metaphor suggest that ultimately it is not. As the second singer says, "He can't do it. He can't change it. It's been going on for 10,000 years." From this perspective, the man is misguided. He threw away his life for a hopeless cause. He's has "lost" and wasted his life.
But knowing the songwriter as we do, this is not the intended message. We know he disagrees with the second singer, because he's been fighting for change his whole life. The losers are really the people who choose to rationalize their own views and refuse to accept the man's message, because they are creating exactly the dystopia they think is unavoidable. Like so many have.
So we are forced to ask: what place will we ourselves take on the wheel? Consciously or not, we all choose our place on the great mandala. We have this brief moment to choose who we will be and what we will stand for. And, we are forced to confront the possibility that all our hopes and efforts will amount to nothing. I find it both excruciating and sublime that even the song refuses to reward the man for his sacrifice. Because the great mandala won't reward you either. The song ends on the disturbing thought that "if you lose you've only wasted your life." It's very ambiguous who the loser is here. And as frustrating as that is, that's exactly as it should be. You must decide for yourself.
I have been performing this song since it first appeared on Album 1700 (arguably the best album PP&M produced) and I must admit I was not sure of its meaning. I should have realised that with Peter Yarrows background that this was indeed the meaning.
I have been performing this song since it first appeared on Album 1700 (arguably the best album PP&M produced) and I must admit I was not sure of its meaning. I should have realised that with Peter Yarrows background that this was indeed the meaning.
Many thanks for your explanation - it now makes a lot of sense and I shall perform it with more understanding. My previous understanding was that it related to someone on death row but I couldn't reconcile all the verses - your explanation makes a lot of sense.
Many thanks for your explanation - it now makes a lot of sense and I shall perform it with more understanding. My previous understanding was that it related to someone on death row but I couldn't reconcile all the verses - your explanation makes a lot of sense.
Yes, Peter Yarrow is still alive and lives here in Austin and also has abodes in California and New York. Groujo comments above are very accurate and if you study Peter's writing very much at all you know he often is telling or protesting several stories and points of protest at the same time. When a member of Peter, Paul and Mary their selections often reflected the same philosophies of story telling. Therefore, the song speaks to me on several levels. Condemns Capitol punishment yes, for sure. War, maybe, but not so much, but taking responsibility for our life . ....
Yes, Peter Yarrow is still alive and lives here in Austin and also has abodes in California and New York. Groujo comments above are very accurate and if you study Peter's writing very much at all you know he often is telling or protesting several stories and points of protest at the same time. When a member of Peter, Paul and Mary their selections often reflected the same philosophies of story telling. Therefore, the song speaks to me on several levels. Condemns Capitol punishment yes, for sure. War, maybe, but not so much, but taking responsibility for our life . . . yes indeed. At first I thought it was an interplay between Father and Son because of the first verse material and because the Richie Havens video with Peter has them in an intercourse of story telling but really it is the Father in the first verse telling the story and unlike what others have said about it might be a preist I for one believe that it's the boy's actual father in that story verse that is talking. Now. Are the other two verses a continuing of the story? It works either way for me. That's what I love about this writing style. Electric chair? no mention of it but it could be or it could be that it's just life in prison or it could be that life itself is the prison and that the subject is neither locked up or actually dies on the prison floor. Dying on the prison floor could easily mean the point the subject gives up on his own life, fails to be a prophet or a moyrter and never really makes any impact with his own life. Which ever way you view it there is one thing in certain, that the wheel of life/time keeps moving and that if you don't do something with your life your life will run out and the wheel will keep rolling on with or without your impact. The whole concept is really an amazing attempt to get us all thinking and I'm sure Richie Havens was right when he said that it's the greatest song Peter has ever written probably the greatest folk song ever written period.

In some versions of this song, there's an additional verse, between "Tell the jailer" and "Tell the people" which goes as follows:
what's the rumbling? in the courtyard?
Seven thousand faces - are turned to the gate?
What's that they're saying? kill the traitor.
Kill the traitor. kill the traitor. kill the traitor.
la la la la la la la la la la la

Fits pretty nicely. Need to find that version.
But the song is about a man making a morally unpopular choice (existential) and giving his life for it no matter what his father or the public says. In my opinion it's one of the best anti-war songs ever written.
@Nonfactor Absolutely. It needs a revival now.
@Nonfactor Absolutely. It needs a revival now.

For many years, I thought this song had something to do with Nelson Mandella being imprisoned for 25+ years. He was a martyr while imprisoned. I'm kind of disappointed to learn that its really not about him after all.

Huge error. The song title is "The Great Mandala", not the great Mandella. It refers to the great circle of time in Hindu/Buddhist belief. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandala
It does not refer to Nelson Mandella. Funny the chorus is right. How do we get the title to change?
Sorry Groujo, but the title of the song IS The great Mandella, not Mandala. However, I agree that it is referring to the Buddhist beliefs as you specified. This causes, even today, lots of confusion. -- HippyFreak
Sorry Groujo, but the title of the song IS The great Mandella, not Mandala. However, I agree that it is referring to the Buddhist beliefs as you specified. This causes, even today, lots of confusion. -- HippyFreak
Sorry Groujo, but the title of the song was originally released as The Great Mandella, not Mandala. If you own Album 1700, the 6th song is: The Great Mandella (The Wheel Of Life). However, I agree that it is referring to the Buddhist beliefs as you specified. This causes, even today, lots of confusion. The name of the song was later changed (or corrected). For more information, I would refer you to PP&M's official web site, www.peterpaulandmary.com -- HippyFreak
Sorry Groujo, but the title of the song was originally released as The Great Mandella, not Mandala. If you own Album 1700, the 6th song is: The Great Mandella (The Wheel Of Life). However, I agree that it is referring to the Buddhist beliefs as you specified. This causes, even today, lots of confusion. The name of the song was later changed (or corrected). For more information, I would refer you to PP&M's official web site, www.peterpaulandmary.com -- HippyFreak
Thanks for the note, HippyFreak. It's safe to say both titles have been used. It's The Great Mandala on my "The Very Best of Peter, Paul & Mary" but it cleary was "The Great Manedlla" originally. Either they "fixed" it or they just chose an alternate spelling that might be less likely to be confused with Nelson Mandela (with 1 l). Both are correct titles. And both refer to the Wheel of Life, not the South African leader.
Thanks for the note, HippyFreak. It's safe to say both titles have been used. It's The Great Mandala on my "The Very Best of Peter, Paul & Mary" but it cleary was "The Great Manedlla" originally. Either they "fixed" it or they just chose an alternate spelling that might be less likely to be confused with Nelson Mandela (with 1 l). Both are correct titles. And both refer to the Wheel of Life, not the South African leader.

To Groujo: Wow! Your comment was incredibly written. You have a great talent.

I've been playing this song on the guitar since it was first written and for all these years I believed, and still believe that the song wasn't about a draft resister from the Vietnam War but a song against capital punishment. "So I told him that he'd better, shut his mouth and do his job like a man..." means go to his death in the electric chair without complaining. "And he answered, listen father 'I will never kill another'..." is what he was saying to the priest and means he was remorseful about the death he caused. "He thinks he's better than his brother that died..." means he thinks he doesn't deserve what happened to the 'brother' he killed. "What the hell does he think he's doing to his father who brought him up right..." means how could he have done this to his family.
Read in this context, the remaining lyrics are talking about him fasting until dying before he could be executed and of course, the 10,000 years is how long capital punishment has been a mainstay of civilization. The last verse refers to us, the people, who, since we are now free of the executed man, can resume the wanton sanctioning of state killing because, after all, he was crazy and this is the way it's always been going on for over 10,000 years.
I don't know if Peter Yarrow is still alive or whether he has ever written anything about this song but that was always my take on it from the moment I first heard it. Another reference from the era is Phil Och's 'Iron Lady' which is also about the electric chair (before lethal injection became the way the state killed).
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This is sure an interesting interpretation -- shows how a really good song can have different impacts on different people. Mainly wanted to ask "fish" if he knows the song Ellis Unit One by Steve Earle -- make sure you check it out if you don't.
This is sure an interesting interpretation -- shows how a really good song can have different impacts on different people. Mainly wanted to ask "fish" if he knows the song Ellis Unit One by Steve Earle -- make sure you check it out if you don't.

Anyone who appreciates "The Great Mandala" should like the following movies: "There Be Dragons", "Shenandoah", "The Blue and the Grey"

I also, at first, thought this song was about Nelson Mandela. But then, some verses looked very odd: (But he's a coward, he's just playing a game). Then I payed more attention, concluded it was about drafting to vietnam war. Now I see this other interpretation, by Groujo that seems also very pertinent. About the second comment from Groujo, I just went to whe PP&M web site (http://www.peterpaulandmary.com/) and in the list of lyrics, this song is listed as: The Great Mandala (Mandella). By the way, Mandela (Nelson), spells with a single l...

Some of you are really close. First of all, in this sense, Mandala and Mandella are interchangeable. If you look up illustrations of a mandala, it is a wheel and it represents your place on this great wheel of life, Mandella. The song is about a conscientious objector of the Viet Nam war. NOW that you know the real meaning, listen to the song again or at least reread the lyrics. I was there.