Many had really good interpretations of the song! heres mine.
I think this song is def of the stages of life. Your a child born so innocent in this world, with a beautiful smile that could make any parent proud. As you grow older you begin to lose your innocence & fall into societies ways. You begin to lose the meaning of whats important in life. & find that you learn from the world & especially learn from your parents,good & BAD. But the bad things you learn from those around you will only haunt you. To avoid this take only what you need from the world. Try your best not to become selfish as the rest of the world. I feel this songs represents a constant battle between good & bad, I feel like they're speaking from experience. Trying not to get sucked up into the worldy possessions & selfishness of this place. Its a reminder to only take what you need from the world around you, nothing more nothing less. Be happy with what is given to you or fall into a life of unhappiness & obstacles..try to live your life the best way that you can & be the best person that you can, weather your life be hard or easy remember not to become corrupted of the things around you.
Wish I could explain exactly what I feel but words cannot describe everything I think this song means..its a beautiful song & makes me tear everything I hear it..
beautiful, i thought the same thing. Kinda related......but it's really unfortunate that people don't do some inner thinking and find out what they truly want out of life. A lot of people don't express themselves to the full extent because they are afraid of the consequences. As a result, a lot of people join "cliques", become blissfully ignorant, and that's is where the mess begins. People are awesome, but they've managed to turn something so beautiful into a head case for some individuals. Life is full of learning, if we don't aspire to learn, we will never attain that close-to...
beautiful, i thought the same thing. Kinda related......but it's really unfortunate that people don't do some inner thinking and find out what they truly want out of life. A lot of people don't express themselves to the full extent because they are afraid of the consequences. As a result, a lot of people join "cliques", become blissfully ignorant, and that's is where the mess begins. People are awesome, but they've managed to turn something so beautiful into a head case for some individuals. Life is full of learning, if we don't aspire to learn, we will never attain that close-to perfect feel we all want.
That's what i think when i hear songs like this
Right on the nose!
Right on the nose!
@MilkyLumpz yea, I thought this today too, and surround us with what motivates us and makes us happy
@MilkyLumpz yea, I thought this today too, and surround us with what motivates us and makes us happy
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure this song is about that Shell Silverstein book The Giving Tree. I like thinking of it in terms of that -- it kind of gives that book this new element of sadness.
In the chorus of this song -- "Control yourself. Take only what you need from it." -- he's talking about the boy taking from the tree. Yada yada yada, etc, etc ,etc. You get the picture.
Anyone else see the connection?
Yeah! I can totally see that
Yeah! I can totally see that
that really gives the song a new meaning to me, Dang son. I think that's a really good interpretation. I love that book :) and this song!
that really gives the song a new meaning to me, Dang son. I think that's a really good interpretation. I love that book :) and this song!
that is freakin brilliant
that is freakin brilliant
I was thinking that this song might be about human impact on the environment.
"We like to watch you laughing Picking insects off of plants No time to think of consequences"
I think these lines might be talking about how even the little things that we do, like killing insects for instance, effect the world around us more than we know (hence "no time to think of consequences")
"Control yourself Take only what you need from it A family of trees falling, to be haunted"
It seems like they're talking about controlling yourself from taking more than you need from the earth. The family of trees falling line is giving a conspicuous example of how humans destroy ecosystems like rain forests on a regular basis.
"The water is warm, but it's sending me shivers" I think is eluding to pollution in earth's water bodies.
"Decisions are made and not bought But I thought this wouldn't hurt a lot I guess not"
Here I think they're eluding to the fact that humans, particularly people in power, make decisions that seem logical and beneficial in for humankind in the short term, but are often harmful to organisms and their environments in the long-term.
Spot on mate! That's my take on the song also, I was thinking about earth and the environment when he says "take only what you need from it", Great minds think alike!
Spot on mate! That's my take on the song also, I was thinking about earth and the environment when he says "take only what you need from it", Great minds think alike!
I think you are right as well. However, I think the lyrics are "a family of trees wanting, to be haunted." Meaning the trees wanting to be alone and uninhabited (like a haunted forest)
I think you are right as well. However, I think the lyrics are "a family of trees wanting, to be haunted." Meaning the trees wanting to be alone and uninhabited (like a haunted forest)
You're right on with everything else.....
You're right on with everything else.....
I think "it's a family of trees wantin' to be haunted" is about the trees wanting the human race to go extinct so the trees, nature, gaia, can live again with simply the memory and ghosts of humankind.
I think "it's a family of trees wantin' to be haunted" is about the trees wanting the human race to go extinct so the trees, nature, gaia, can live again with simply the memory and ghosts of humankind.
I also thought this song was about life, and the diffrent stages. Clearly "crawling on your knees toward it"-represents an infant stage. But until I read the lyrics I always thought the lyrics were "Enjoy yourself take only what you need fom it"-As in enoy life take only what you need from it. But appariently its "control yourself" which I interpt as being greedy something out generation is all about. My take is that its all about being youn successful and following the American dream, in this process many people just caught up in money and success. than when "a baby is born"- it introduces another stage in life when it is no longer just about the success of ones self, but one maturing and the changes and realizations that take place when one has a family. I really wish artists commented on this site.
You reasoning makes sense. But I would have to say they are just on drugs and probably just thought of the lyrics high or while tripping xD.
You reasoning makes sense. But I would have to say they are just on drugs and probably just thought of the lyrics high or while tripping xD.
They might be wasted as hell and might not. The point CaitySheabell makes is what I take from the song as well. Songwriters take whatever the hell makes them write better, and for some its sobriety. See the "25 of 6 to 4" debate about "Chicago". I think they were tripping while writing the song, as its a dual meaning song IMO, and some say it has nothing to do with drugs. Brilliant if Im right. Might I add my favorite part of this song "A family of trees wanted to be haunted". aka Humans can be disgusting and if you...
They might be wasted as hell and might not. The point CaitySheabell makes is what I take from the song as well. Songwriters take whatever the hell makes them write better, and for some its sobriety. See the "25 of 6 to 4" debate about "Chicago". I think they were tripping while writing the song, as its a dual meaning song IMO, and some say it has nothing to do with drugs. Brilliant if Im right. Might I add my favorite part of this song "A family of trees wanted to be haunted". aka Humans can be disgusting and if you let your ego take over. So "Control yourself"!
I agree with most of what you say. my thoughts on "You were a child crawling toward it making mom so proud" could possible mean that you were on your way, people praised you. "But your voice was too loud" maybe you got a big head by all the attention. "Control yourself take only what you need from it" Don't get too carried away, only take the attention and praise you need. "We like watching you laughing picking insects off plants" maybe ignoring the problem, shoving them away "No time to think of consequences" the problems will come back....
I agree with most of what you say. my thoughts on "You were a child crawling toward it making mom so proud" could possible mean that you were on your way, people praised you. "But your voice was too loud" maybe you got a big head by all the attention. "Control yourself take only what you need from it" Don't get too carried away, only take the attention and praise you need. "We like watching you laughing picking insects off plants" maybe ignoring the problem, shoving them away "No time to think of consequences" the problems will come back.
The chorus could well be referring to "inheritence", a "sins of the father" style thing.
If you take this as the kind words of a mother to her son then you essentially have her talking of how they "we like to watch you laughing" (mother+father)shared in the baby's young curiosity, and a layer of reticence about what was to come subsequently "no time to think of consequences" relating to their relationship/behaviour towards each other.
If you discount the chorus at first and lead straight into the second verse you have an undeniable sentiment that there have been bad decisions made, many without thinking. The memories of when the child was sparkling and new (warm water) are now sharpened to a shiver by what is know known and experienced. "I though this wouldn't hurt" could perhaps refer to bringing the child into the world.
This then angles the whole chorus as a slight on the father. Control yourself, take only from your father what you need (i.e. the strength, love, role model, father figure etc) leaving behind the failures and foibles. The "family of trees" is a play on words from "Family tree", probably probing at the idea that if you repeat the mistakes of the your own father - he'll haunt "your" tree too. A forlorn warning about how there are two sides to everything "warm" "a baby is born" can end up difficult "shiver" "crying out for attention".
I agree completely. Only I allege the meaning goes much deeper than just experiences with family. I think "take only what you need from it" refers to taking only what you need from every experience in life. It's about letting go of things, instead of being "haunted" like other people allow themselves to be. At least, that's my interpretation. I believe everyone's opinions about these things are generally colored by what they're experiencing at the time they listen. For me, favorite songs I've listened to for years will reveal different meanings to the words, the more I hear it....
I agree completely. Only I allege the meaning goes much deeper than just experiences with family. I think "take only what you need from it" refers to taking only what you need from every experience in life. It's about letting go of things, instead of being "haunted" like other people allow themselves to be. At least, that's my interpretation. I believe everyone's opinions about these things are generally colored by what they're experiencing at the time they listen. For me, favorite songs I've listened to for years will reveal different meanings to the words, the more I hear it.
i think you are right =)
i think you are right =)
People are reading into the lyrics superficially. Yes its about growing up but thats only part of it. You really need to watch the music video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad-tgbtbCEM&feature=fvst.
The song is actually about bad parenting, esp in the case of a custody battle/divorce and the effects on a childs life and growing up with it. I wouldnt be surprised if members of mgmt had divorced parents. Why? If you read the opening quote by Mark Twain "He who fights with monsters care lest he thereby become a monster" is a reference to bad parents as "monsters" that will eventually reflect unto their children. In the music video we see a careless, narcissistic mother. Notice the father figure is absent and she is living in a very nice house (devorce settlement). In every image society is seen as a monster, because in growing up with your closest family figure as a monster even regular people are now seen as the same. The car seat instead of something comforting is depicted as a cage. "control yourself take only what you need from it" is in references to controlling yourself and not fighting over the child and tearing them apart in the settlement. "A family of trees wanted, to be haunted", in trying to keep the child and have grandchildren, future generations of that family are scarred because the child is scarred in the fighting over him. The child is seen more like an object of possesion just like her phone and devorce-settlement-bought-car. Towards the end is a trip scene...probably a reference to divorce children driven to drugs, in the end the child is seen running to mgmt, a male father figure, or savior who ends up turning into a monster just the same and the child falls into abyss.
its also a recurring theme in MGMT songs, in time to pretend he talks of marrying models having children and then getting divorced. In the music video for kids the mother is a hot model archtype. Coincidence? i think not.
its also a recurring theme in MGMT songs, in time to pretend he talks of marrying models having children and then getting divorced. In the music video for kids the mother is a hot model archtype. Coincidence? i think not.
also i forgot to mention notice in the music video the woman's wedding rings are now on her right hand. The first stanza is in reference to parents being selfish: parents in the custody battle only see the things the child can provide for them not thinking of the consequences...
also i forgot to mention notice in the music video the woman's wedding rings are now on her right hand. The first stanza is in reference to parents being selfish: parents in the custody battle only see the things the child can provide for them not thinking of the consequences...
@dannyda1187 the quote is actually from Nietzsche. not sure why they misquoted it in the video. Mark twain was a contemporary of Nietzsche, so he may have repeated it in one of his works at one point. I think its more likely they misquoted for a reason, however. What that reason may be, though, i have no idea
@dannyda1187 the quote is actually from Nietzsche. not sure why they misquoted it in the video. Mark twain was a contemporary of Nietzsche, so he may have repeated it in one of his works at one point. I think its more likely they misquoted for a reason, however. What that reason may be, though, i have no idea
Isn't the song about preserving the natural world for future generations?
It's genius is in the double meanings of every line... on one hand it is talking about a family tree and being a kid on the other it is talking about the environment...
The first verse is about how silly all of our social ideas are, i.e. making momma so proud... but these are just childish things... We are wasteful as children in pursuit of these things: "picking insects of plants/ no time to think of consequences" This Kid like behaviour is damaging to the environment(i.e. stop bugs from pollinating the earth due to climate change: see for example the honeybee epidemic facing the western world)
Therefore, we must grow up and "control ourselves" and "take only what we need" from the earth. The trees are wanting to be haunted because it is man who destroys them.
"The water is warm" but the thought that that is at the expense of polar ice caps melting and flooding land below sea level etc... is "sending shivers" Then we get to the "baby is born." In which we are reminded that the human race will still carry on when the ice caps melt and bugs die etc... there will be a new generation of kids...a new part of the family tree...The trees in the chorus now become both literal trees and forests and also our descendents whose world we are destroying by taking more than we need...
and then it hurts a lot because the decisions about the future need to be "made" and the worry is that the "memories will fade" and the future generations will not learn from all of our mistakes and over consumption and "crying out for attention"...
I'm pretty sure thats what its about if it is then its genius
Look, I don't know why everyone's fighting over whether its about the environment or drugs or childhood or divorce. It's about all of them. Its all the same thing, human nature, just in different perspectives and scales. Any fight between our selfish, excitable, inexhaustible child mind and our cool, logical, responsible adult mind can fit this song.
I'll take it apart from the childhood perspective as vaguely as I can, you can apply it to anything else, yourself.
You were a child Crawling on your knees towards it
What's 'it'? No way to tell. I'm a firm believer in the "Intelligent Writer" theory. If we were supposed to know, we would. As kids, we are unexperienced. We really have no idea what we're doing or what we're moving towards. It's there, it's exciting, and we want it right now.
Making Mama so proud But your voice is too loud
There are people telling us what the consequences are, what's good and what's bad, but we won't listen. It's not in our nature, we have to find out for ourselves.
No time to think of consequences
We can only ever know retrospect
Control yourself Take only what you need from it
This is the pressure from others. Grow up. Think before you act. Do the right thing. It's kindly meant, it's wise advice, it's constantly buzzing around the back of our mind, (which is why it's the chorus), and one day soon we will be forced to own up to it. But we don't want to be trapped. There's everything we'd have to give up:
A family of trees wanted to be haunted
People get too caught up in literal and double meanings, and symbolism, and they forget the imagery. Haven't you ever been a kid in a forest, running just far enough to pretend your parents aren't breathing down your neck? Trees are so massive and fascinating and infinite! What if you could leave this whole dilemma behind, and just stay there, and be as outrageous as you want? Haunt the forest, live in a thriving, infinite, passionate world that cares for you like a family, forever. That's only 90% of all children's stories ever written. Maybe we can pretend for just a little while longer that that's the world we live in, or that if we wait it will find us before we have to leave it behind. But of course, that makes us ghosts. We'd be frozen in place, just as trapped.
The water is warm But it's sending me shivers
Contrasts; warm is a positive, it's pulling me in, but shivers, it's also frightening. Again, it's mostly indecision, aprehension, we're not willing to move ahead, but we can't just stay where we are forevermore.
a baby is born crying out for attention
More contrasts: having a kid is great, and being a baby is wonderful and innocent. On the other hand, caring for a baby is exhausting, being a baby is scary as hell and dangerous. You can't have innocence without experience, or good without bad, can't take without giving.
the memories fade like looking through a fogged mirror
pretty straight forward. Time passes, passions are dulled, lessons distorted and forgotten. Our memories are fallible, so history repeats itself.
decision to decisions are made and not bought
This bit's clever, it would normaly be decision to decision/ decisions are made and not bought. By condensing the two bits we get decision to decisions, plural, as we go from making a one choice to making more and more, (might be growing autonomy or repeat offences. Or both). Decisons are made and not bought, I thought was a play on words, you usualy 'make' things with the intention to sell them, someone else decides what they're worth, gives you what you deserve, and takes them off your hands. You make all of these decisions and they don't go anywhere, no one keeps track of them, rewards/punishes you for them. They just keep piling up in your head, defining you as this big jumbled mess of good and bad, right and wrong. Which leads into the next few lines, by theme and by rhyme.
But I thought this wouldn't hurt a lot I guess not
Life is nowhere near as simple, safe, and easy as the white lies our parents tell us. It's like the Doctor Who quote
"When you're a kid, they tell you it's all... grow up. Get a job. Get married. Get a house. Have a kid, and that's it. But the truth is, the world is so much stranger than that. It's so much darker. And so much madder.
And so much better."
This was an EPIC INTERPRETATION!
This was an EPIC INTERPRETATION!
Congratulations!
Congratulations!
Why thank you.
Why thank you.
i just want to comment on how much i love how everyones comment is somewhat unique. it really shows the awesome power of art. everyones individual interpretation is a look inside that persons personality and their experiences that cause them to express how a song makes them think and feel. you gain the perspective of a complete, true stranger whom youve never seen and somewhat get a sense of their virtues and imagination. hooray for art and the diversity that it encourages. its pretty remarkable. im sorry its just so hard to ignore such a phenomenon, i mean simply organized sounds to bring people together. wow.
Who are they asking to show themselves? International bankers? War profiteers? The elite class that belong to no country but the countries belong to them? Are they asking them to only take what they need? Are we the babies crying out for attention? We are being given that attention through entertainment and material possessions with no thought of consequence. We are crawling on our knees to get what we want which makes mother proud to see us succeed, but our wants and goals are decisions based on decisions, not decisions based on the archetypal constant thoughout human experience that guides us collectively. We are moving away from our connection with eachother. Our intereaction used to be tribal and based on us. Now they have become based on media/materials that are not neccesary but self indulgent leisure or power. I like to think that the trees wanting to be haunted is the opportunity to become so old that they will become haunted, instead of loud babies(us) harvesting more than we need before some of the oldest living things on earth have a chance to become haunted. Maybe the water is warm but it is toxic and causing him to shiver. The memories fade because with every passing generation our detachment from our Mother Earth becomes more normal and our increasingly toxic environment is becoming normal. When compared with something bad, something a little worse is not horrible, but to compare where we are now to where we were before the industrial revolution would shock the frog out of the slowly heated water before it boils. Descisions are made not bought? Maybe that we are so complacent that we no longer need to be bought. They can simply make the descisions without notice because we are too busy being entertained. If we don't know what is happening it shouldn't hurt a lot, but it does. I have no info to base my thoughts on, just my interpretation of this beautiful song. This song seems very open to varying interpretations. I think how you live is much more important than how you tell other people to live.