Here in the land that Abraham was promised to receive we listen to you catechize from your pulpit overseas. You mourn the proofs of our barbarity. But dry your eyes, oh Pharisee, a settler’s cant we both speak. We both read from the same old played out scripts and hum familiar tunes, broadcast on fixed frequencies, stuck in locking grooves. We both profess noble intent as we civilize human impediments. If your hands are clean then noblesse oblige, wipe those“who me?” looks off of your face and then concede our designs separated by nothing more than place and time. Different scenes, same crimes. Pray, let him who’s without sin cast the first statues of the former rogues turned folk heroes that your forefathers hung. Don’t lecture me about plundered soil while you loaf upon your father’s spoils. We want nothing more than what you already have: a comforting set of exculpatory “facts” like, say, the myth of an empty land and a conquest so complete we can pull these tanks from our streets and hand the loose ends over to bureaucrats and become just like you – lounging carefree in your cafes, absolved from sin and human grenades. Entre nous, how did your desert bloom?

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    General CommentIn addition, it's about Zionist control of the media and news, how they white wash over the real news with street crime and "human interest stories." I mean who really gives a crap about Scruffy the dog doing a back flip or a giant Bear swimming in your pool when they should be talking about Genocide in Darfur, Iran Oil Boarse, or in direct reference to this song Zionist control of the media. In the end we feel obsolved of responisbility, "lounging carefree in cafe's..."
    SufferBoy2Kon May 09, 2006   Link
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    General CommentI believe it's drawing comparison between the ongoing territorial struggles in the Middle East (and perhaps elsewhere?) with the European 'settlement' of North America - 'Manifest Destiny' indeed!

    Basically from the point of view of, say, an aggressive Arab sheik with an eye for 'Lebensraum', it's saying to the US 'if, 500 years ago, you could invade an already-settled area, commit mass genocide, pretty much annihilate the indigenous population - and then spend the next half-millenium trying to justify your actions to the rest of the world

    Why can't we?'
    CousinRandyon July 02, 2006   Link
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    General Commentsong is written from the point of view of israel. saying that their occupation is no different from when the settlers "discovered" america.

    the events are "separated by nothing more than place and time. Different scenes, same crimes".

    "lounging carefree in your cafes, absolved from sin and human grenades" - people sitting in their coffee shop is america probably dont have to worry about a pissed off native american suicide bomber blowing them to pieces.
    heartbeats_xxxon July 08, 2006   Link
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    General CommentI think these most recent comments are right on - it's a comparison of little fiefdoms in the 3rd world (sometimes friends of the US, other times not, maybe like the one in this song) to big empires in the West. The lyrics in this song are really a masterpiece. Maybe the best written lyrics of any Propagandhi song ever, poetry-wise. Agree or disagree?
    m.k.on June 15, 2007   Link
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    General Commenti actually think entre nous is just french for "between you and i". i think its just meant to be taken literally, not any reference, like earlier in the song with noblesse oblige.
    xforkylelifesakexon July 27, 2007   Link
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    General Commentxforkylelifesakex had it right, "entre nous" is in fact French for "between you and I". "Noblesse oblige" means "nobility obliges". It implies that with wealth and power come certain social responsibilities, which directly relates to the subject matter of the song. Brilliantly written.
    mattton September 25, 2007   Link
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    General CommentThis is not a subjective song, it is a specific reference to certain historical events and actors. As a result, one cannot use this song, or any excerpt of it, as a mold for other historical events in an effort to point out wrongs or inconsistencies in the policies of those different examples. This song is about the relationship between the United States and their colonization of what is now their continental territory, and Israel's colonization of what became Israel, and their current colonization of the occupied territories.

    Both countires have used settlements to create their nations. Whether it is westward expansion by the United States, or Israeli settlement and occupation, both countires have enlarged their boundaries at the expense of the regional inhabitants, through their use of settlement policies.

    Nothing seperates these incidents expect for "place and time," they are "different scenes, [but the] same crimes." The song aruges that the United states cannot criticize Israel due to its already obtained position of "loaf[ing] upon [their] father’s spoils," i.e. the land. Israel simply wants "nothing more than what [The United States] already ha[s]: a comforting set of exculpatory “facts” like, say, the myth of an empty land and a conquest so complete," so that they can simply live their lives "lounging carefree in [...] cafes, absolved from sin and human grenades."

    "Enre Nous (between us), [Israel asks] how did your desert bloom?" through oppresive colonization programs. Propagandhi points out a very real point, how can the United States criticize Israel when its entire livlihood rests upon what Israel is currently doing?
    Emasseion September 05, 2008   Link
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    Song MeaningEmassei is largely correct. However, since Prop is Canadian, this song specifically refers to Canadian historical events.

    "Pray, let him who's without sin cast the first statues of the former rogues turned folk heroes that your forefathers hung." This is a reference to Louis Riel, leader of the Northwest Rebellion. He was hanged for treason, but today is viewed largely as a "folk hero", with buildings and highways named in his honour, as well as statues in Winnipeg. He was Métis (of French and Aboriginal descent). This, along with the fact that Britain and France were Canada's colonizers, is why there are several French phrases in the song.

    Or I may just be smoking too much crack.
    segvon August 06, 2009   Link
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    General CommentEmmasai is pretty much spot on. This is a pet issue for the propagandhi boys. There is a fascinating doco included in the Live from Occupied Territory DVD which fleshes out many of these issues, but their particular beef is how the Zionist controlled mass media reports on the issues in the west bank and gaza strip and the highly selective language they use to fool people into thinking that these settlement areas are part of Jerusalem and not Palestinian territory.

    This is one of my favourite Propagandhi songs and I really like how the melody flows much smoother here than on other tracks where they have a real issue to push (like supporting caste) and tend to mangle the lyrics into the phrases in Chris' machine gun style. The work on backing vocals here is stunning. Five stars.
    tikgodzillaon June 06, 2014   Link
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    General CommentIt's about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, but beyond that I'm not entirely sure what it means, especially at the end...
    punkpirateon April 24, 2006   Link

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