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Colin Hay – Beautiful World Lyrics 7 years ago
loubylouxx: Who said it had anything to do with it, as in being related to or inspired by it?

The point is that its celebration of simple pleasures, particularly the two specific examples of swimming and the sun, are very akin to the philosophy of Mersault in that book - and I thought the same thing when I heard it.

This doesn't mean that it was intentional or whatever, but your reply is way too dismissive (and perhaps biased - did the book offend you? just asking!)

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Colin Hay – Beautiful World Lyrics 7 years ago
sw123, (assuming you are being serious,) get over it; the line is pretty obviously meant to be humorous and therefore to sound a little awkward.

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Colin Hay – Beautiful World Lyrics 7 years ago
sw123, (assuming you are being serious,) get over it; the line is pretty obviously meant to be humorous and therefore to sound a little awkward.

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The Broadways – One Man Board Of Directors Lyrics 7 years ago
Absolutely brilliant song musically and lyrically, one of my favourites. A few corrections if you believe my interpretation:

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My friend can’t go home no more.
I guess that’s what happens when you’re too poor
to be a good kid in good clothes in a bad neighbourhood
That’s no good
when pride
makes you a traitor to your kind.
When his brother was murdered a year ago, it was the same as it is now
–as it is now.

They’ve no witness relocation plans for those in slums.
I know ’cause my friend could sure use one.
Third-grade brothers and sisters threatened by grown men
–grown men–
who’d stand outside
while families slowly died.
They tried

to talk to Edwin Eisendrath, but the chairman of the CHA
can’t find a way
to keep one family safe.

Nothing’s that important to me.
Nothing’s that important to me.

I used to sit by the phone
waiting for that special girl to call.
I used to forget to go home
when my days got too long.
I’d feel really scared, but it always went away.
It doesn’t always go away.

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The Broadways – Jonathan Kozol Was Right... Lyrics 8 years ago
Nifty vocal interplay here, and (it goes without saying) great lyrics.

What I really came here to say, though: That outro MUST be an intentional homage to Propagandhi's "Showdown (Greenest Eyes/Preamble)" www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKwxuqOYgx4

If not intentional, it was at least subconscious! We know that Dan, Brendan and Chris are confirmed fans of Propagandhi: I've seen a photo/video where Dan was wearing a Flag Burning shirt, and an interview with Brendan where he described himself and Chris rushing home from school to listen to How to Clean Everything.

Rob probably likes Propagandhi too. He's too awesome a drummer to be lame enough to not like Propagandhi :P

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Propagandhi – Showdown Lyrics 8 years ago
Known Propagandhi fans The Broadways surely had this consciously in mind when writing the outro of "Jonathon Kozol Was Right..."; hear for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvqPfKDhWmA#t=2m12s

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The Lawrence Arms – Quincentuple Your Money Lyrics 8 years ago
More generally, a main theme of the book was fear of growing up, which is described in subsequent lines.

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The Lawrence Arms – Quincentuple Your Money Lyrics 8 years ago
Just earlier I was reading the quote from The Catcher in the Rye about how Holden appreciates the museum for the fact that it never changes, and wishes that he could apply that to things in his life; however, after walking all the way there, he realises that he has no desire to go in.

Holden also often says things like “That killed me”, “She kills me”, etc.–sometimes referring to laughter, I think, but also sometimes to dismay.

Given that Brendan has referenced The Catcher in the Rye (in “The Disaster March“ of course, and perhaps elsewhere), I wonder if the similarity between the above and this song’s lines about the park was intentional.

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Propagandhi – Last Will & Testament Lyrics 10 years ago
Pretty much. Shades of Purina Hall Of Fame ("There's nothing we can do…"), but no guitar solo to hint to the very unperceptive listener that sarcasm is being used! The lyrics make one realise how self-fulfilling and pathetic such excuses are, and that's obviously Chris's intention. Great instrumental intro too.

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Propagandhi – Supporting Caste Lyrics 10 years ago
He's not a Marxist.

And who said he couldn't use a bit of metaphor? I'm sure he's troubled at night by the thought that his analogy may not be totally watertight. Sheesh.

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Propagandhi – Tertium Non Datur (née Repairing The Damaged Beard Lyrics 10 years ago
Some good interpretations here. It's obviously advising against defining things as 'black and white' (a neat tie-in to Dear Coach's Corner, perhaps), but I still don't see Dawkins or Hitchens as fundamentalists. What is it, "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence"?

Certainly, the major religions that claim esoteric access to the truth cannot all be correct, to any greater likelihood than the usual parodies such as the FSM. And whether one accepts the possibility of a deistic god or one of a type we've not imagined, unless it presents itself in some observable way, it may as well not exist--and we'd do well to act as if it doesn't, rather than using it for power, etc.

Personally, I'd put myself at 7 ("There is definitely no god") on Dawkins' scale, if that wouldn't make me sound like a self-assured fundie. So, as a fan of science, I guess I'll settle for being a 7-1/∞.

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Propagandhi – Potemkin City Limits Lyrics 10 years ago
It clearly isn't. That makes no sense, and Chris is a self-proclaimed militant atheist.

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Propagandhi – Potemkin City Limits Lyrics 10 years ago
I think it's "Turn around; I'm gone".

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Propagandhi – Tertium Non Datur (née Repairing The Damaged Beard Lyrics 10 years ago
What I meant by "atheists are in a better place" is that I don't view the writers Hedges criticises as fundamentalists. Wouldn't they need scripture, and an ignorance (or even hatred) of science, for that to be the case? Instead they use logic and available evidence. Dawkins and Hitchens acknowledge that if the evidence rounded on them, they'd have to rethink their positions. That's the important difference.

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Propagandhi – Tertium Non Datur (née Repairing The Damaged Beard Lyrics 10 years ago
This is obviously about [religious] absolutism and its negative effects. Interestingly, the first book recommended under these lyrics in the booklet is Chris Hedges' I Don't Believe In Atheists--a book by a moderately religious writer, which criticises what he perceives to be the equally absolutist mindsets of Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens, et al. I know Propagandhi are atheists, so I was confused by this, especially when I then saw second and forth on the list are Dawkins' and Hitchens' books respectively! Presumably the band want the listener to keep an open mind. I would argue that atheists are in a better place to make arguments/claims, as they have empirical evidence (or the lack thereof) on their side, as opposed to religious fundamentalists, who have… really old books. If I'm not mistaken, the lesson is to not separate yourself from or write off people on the other side, as that only breeds animosity and conflict; instead, people need to focus on the real issues (compassion, science, etc.).

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Propagandhi – Potemkin City Limits Lyrics 10 years ago
The link didn't work; I'll try again:
http://www.roadsideattractions.ca/francis.htm
If not, just Google "Alberta Francis pig" and read the first page.

Oh, and your analysis of the title was almost identical to explanations Chris has given in interviews. Good thinking!

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Propagandhi – Potemkin City Limits Lyrics 10 years ago
Yes, it's about a pig. This page has some information, and this charming line: "Francis reminds us of the importance of hog production and processing to the economy of Red Deer."

Following from that, the song is about what Propagandhi (and I) perceive as the absurdity of the meat industry; the cruelty of a situation where demonstrably sentient beings (not to mention ones as closely related to us [human animals] as pigs) are bred and killed for our convenience/economy; complete with [self-]assurances that 'it's right because we're better'. This explains "Not just some fractured fairy-tale", "Potemkin City Limits", etc.--the crappy excuses we get to rationalise ourselves.

Pretty good (and brave, although Propagandhi don't worry about mincing [ho ho] words). You can tell Chris means it, and I think the vocal delivery stands out too.

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Rise Against – Chamber the Cartridge Lyrics 11 years ago
^ You're a troll, right?

This song is DEFINITELY about the world and people's impact upon it. Why would you go the long way around to suggest another explanation when the real meaning is staring you in the face?

"Here, i think, is a small hyperbole. He says "the world", but i think he means[...]"

No, I'm pretty sure that he means the world.

I wouldn't go out of your way to try and take meanings besides the obvious from songs like this.

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