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Between the Buried and Me – Disease, Injury, Madness Lyrics 12 years ago
I won't pretend to read the Tommy Giles' mind and say what his reasoning is for these lyrics, but it does inspire thought about cults and cult leadership in general.

It seems to address aspects of cults such as the "Appeal to Authority" fallacy, the intrinsic need for meaning and purpose for the basic human and how cults fulfill that, and how cults are ordinary people that are overtaken and become servants to a cause that they're not even convicted in.

Also the mention of "I am a cult by definition" line actually made me look up the dictionary definition of the word "cult". The most general definition was: "an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult."

This still covers heretical offshoots of religions, but it also addresses much much more. It seems to address any group of people that gives a person a sense of identity, status, and a sense of community.

It's especially interesting because this would apply to entities like the metal music scene, fashion, movie choices, etc. I've seen lots of pomp and arbitrary rules asserted that nobody dare question, for fear of losing their status and becoming an outcast.

All in all it seems like an appeal to the listeners to reexamine all of their beliefs, and determine whether they believe it because it's truthful or if their belief in it comes from a place of mental/emotional sickness, madness, or injury.

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Between the Buried and Me – Swim to the Moon Lyrics 13 years ago
I can't believe people are ripping on this song. While it is 17 minutes, its flows a lot better and is a lot more dynamic than many 10+ minute songs I've heard. I was impressed with that alone, not to mention how musical it is. This is definitely one of the jewels of TGM.

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Between the Buried and Me – Swim to the Moon Lyrics 13 years ago
"@jonlabs

Ooh, you're so rebellious, "oh, look at me, I have an opinion." I don't care whether you like DT or not, but honestly, saying they're stupid and pretentious is just plain stupid. "

you realize the irony in that post right???

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Between the Buried and Me – Swim to the Moon Lyrics 13 years ago
"@jonlabs

Ooh, you're so rebellious, "oh, look at me, I have an opinion." I don't care whether you like DT or not, but honestly, saying they're stupid and pretentious is just plain stupid. "

you realize the irony in that post right???

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Between the Buried and Me – Swim to the Moon Lyrics 13 years ago
"@jonlabs

Ooh, you're so rebellious, "oh, look at me, I have an opinion." I don't care whether you like DT or not, but honestly, saying they're stupid and pretentious is just plain stupid. "

you realize the irony in that post right???

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Example – Kickstarts Lyrics 13 years ago
a catchy song that actually has wicked lyrics. :D

it addresses the moments in a relationship that complacency takes over and the relationship heads into a rut. but rather than dissolving the relationship and starting over, there's the moment where both people realize that the other person is exactly what they want and need, and the love and appreciation for one another rushes back and in full. the song seems to be about that exact moment.

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Between the Buried and Me – Obfuscation Lyrics 13 years ago
doesn't sound like it's religious really. big words (ideas) here are change blindness, obfuscaton (song name), the great misdirect (album name), etc. that doesn't really ring w/ religiosity, as i've never heard an anti-theist refer to any religion in those terms. throw in the marfa reference, and religion goes right out the window. it sounds like an eloquent, educated approach to normalizing the paranormal, and addressing the struggle between the search for the truth despite the government's attempt to obfuscate the clear signs of it.

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August Burns Red – Rationalist Lyrics 13 years ago
i think everybody needs to consult the dictionary:

a·the·ism   
[ey-thee-iz-uhm] Show IPA
—noun
1.
the doctrine or belief that there is no god.
2.
disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.


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August Burns Red – Rationalist Lyrics 13 years ago
ahh, but the burden of proof isn't just on the christians, but also to the rationalists. rationalism is not rooted in an absence of belief of god, but rather a belief in an absence of god. those are much, much different.

so you'd have to prove (rationally and analytically) that there is an absence of the judeo-christian (and every other) God for rationalism to actually be rational.

as far as the second part of the post, i do quite agree with you. there's gotta be some standard to consider something trustworthy. as do the christians who have done their homework. there are tons of books out in the world on evidences of christian beliefs. josh mcdowell has written books after him and a team spending thousands of hours collecting firsthand information on the validity of the christian bible. it's astounding. also if you have netflix and an an hr to kill, a lot of the same information is on "the case for christ". really cheesy documentary, but the info is good.

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August Burns Red – Rationalist Lyrics 14 years ago
claiming to be a "rationalist", and looking down on the silly mortals for "believing in fairy tales" is hypocrisy when all you have is a different belief. christianity cannot be absolutely proven, but it cannot be idisproven. so ya to demonize a group of people for not meeting a ridiculous standard you yourself cannot meet would indeed make you a hypocrite.

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Death Cab for Cutie – Grapevine Fires Lyrics 16 years ago
whoa, damn good song. what i made of it is that it's about how temporary life is, and how there's nothing that can be done to change that.

the grapevine fire is a great metaphor for the gradual yet unstoppable way that life is burning away.

the wake up call from the rented room symbolizes being in a dream world and it breaking with the wake-up call that he'll have to leave his life one day.

the firemen are the people who try to fight their mortality by trying to extend the length of their lives or by prayer, but subconsciously know that they'll die one day as well.

the narrator (i'm guessing ben gibbard) took his wife/girlfriend and her daughter to a cemetery, to visit somebody, clearly having to deal with mortality himself, and using alcohol to help cope. the girl dancing and laughing in the cemetery is to display how kids tend not to worry about things like their mortality, and how it was relieving to be around that.

finally, he was watching the fire burn, or watching life gradually pass, and finally accepting his oncoming death.

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Thrice – Daedalus Lyrics 16 years ago
HFS

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Minus the Bear – Electric Rainbow Lyrics 16 years ago
i think this song is about 2 people stealing food from a buffet.

"what did you do? you got some meat on you" was what tipped me off.

but seriously, it's a sick song. i can't find anywhere to download it. i wouldn't mind paying for it, but you can't even find it in places like itunes. anybody know how to get it short of buying another copy of planet of ice.

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Thrice – Come All You Weary Lyrics 16 years ago
amazing song. thrice can do it all, and can do it better.

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Pedro the Lion – Options Lyrics 16 years ago
it's so good it's a little frustrating. it seems that everybody is lookin for a great and moving song all the time, and this is amazing lyrics, great music and this is only comment 18.

still, i appreciate this album exists.

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Incubus – Rogues Lyrics 16 years ago
whoa, not about creationism/evolution @ all. least i don't think it is.

it's talking about how the more evolved people in the world are the assholes that everybody considers the liabilities in society. ROGUES! the rogue is the person who deviates from the expectations of a whole. ex: a rogue agent is the one who broke away from protocol and is acting in an unsavory way.

this total resonates w/ me right now.

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Thrice – Kings Upon The Main Lyrics 16 years ago
amen to that. hella amazing.

song's about life. i think written from the religious standpoint about how people forget about god as soon as life begins to work out for them, or buy into something else, and how it ends up hurting them.

it also corresponds to losing loved ones to pride and the illusion of invincibility (i'd say safety, but that'd be too tacky) for the secular fans.

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Thrice – The Flame Deluge Lyrics 16 years ago
the fire and water volumes are too fantastic. makes me grow impatient for the air and earth ones.

such an epic sound to this song. usually that's sorta tacky, but thrice knows what they're doing. perfect way to end the fire volume. . . .

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Thrice – Flags of Dawn Lyrics 17 years ago
one of my favorite vheissu-era songs. bummer it was only a b-side.

i'm pretty sure that it was written from the christian perspective. however, the feelings do parallel beyond the religion, so both the x-tians and non are totally right in their opinions.

in any case, i'm pretty sure there's a uninanimity that this songs is absolutely stellar.

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Dustin Kensrue – Blanket of Ghosts Lyrics 17 years ago
hahaha one of the raddest songs i've heard in a while.

it's about sexual temptation. be it waiting for marriage, being faithful to a spouse, or anything of that sort.

people always tend to be willing to commit to say a marriage or the religious belief of it being best to wait. those beliefs always seem to have much less conviction when there's a cute blond chick ready to take you home. then you start trying to figure out a way to give in. or just to find a way to get over with the torture of resisting temptation.

A++

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Modest Mouse – Alone Down There Lyrics 17 years ago
hmm. this one's a thinker. pretty true bout most MM songs though haha. anyways, i dunno if i'm steppin on anyone elses comment, but i think it goes a little somethin like this.

it's about personal struggle maybe? like he really has the pull towards something i guess bad's the easiest word, and kind of entertains the thoughts of going through w/ it (playing the devil's advocate).

as far as being alone down there, he's trying to spin the idea of giving in, as an idea that he's really doing for someone else.

same idea w/ "you don't see anything well. you ask me what size it is not what i sell" listen to anybody try to justify doing something wrong, they completely avoid the simple logics of it, and pull at something barely relevant, for the sake of shutting up their conscience.

just my thoughts.

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Muse – Thoughts of a Dying Atheist Lyrics 17 years ago
haha i think this was the purpose right here. questioning.

i think that a lot of christian people are christian, because that's what they were raised to believe. everybit as true about athiests.

it's perceived by many a athiest AND christians that if there's no god, christians are wasting the little life they have away. and if there is, then athiests are fucked.

so i think matt was trying to bring to life a dying person w/ doubts and not much to do, cuz it's too late to really take a hard look at what he believes to inspire a sense of "believe what you will, but you better really fuckin believe it".

just off topic, i hear a lot that athiesm is all about being rational. never saw the rationality behind athiesm. not talking shit, i'm just sayin. . .

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Thrice – The Beltsville Crucible Lyrics 17 years ago
hahah whoops, never got to seconds page. makes my last post kinda redundant. sorry kids.

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Thrice – The Beltsville Crucible Lyrics 17 years ago
this song is hella diamond in the rough. kind of a boring song musically, but the lyrics are fuckin gold.

from what i understood from lyrics/if we could see us now DVD is that it's more general that ya'll suggest. it's about the concept of having being hurt by a friend, but putting yourself that to save them in the grand scheme of shit.

brian mcternan (producer of IOS) said that he told dustin somethings that were hard to hear, but came from a good place (verbatim).

i'm guessing seeing as how he's a producer, he probably was criticizing what dustin came up w/, and dustin was hurt by it (seeing as how musicians are hella sensitive bout their music), and finally he came to and realized that it was for the best.

anyways, that's how the concept hit dustin. the drug reference/shitty relationship reference is all just different flavors of the same concept of having to hurt to help.

that's my 2 cents.

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Glassjaw – The Gillette Cavalcade of Sports Lyrics 17 years ago
quoting palumbo "this song's about being in a rock n roll band". so hey, i know that much so far. so i'll take a stab at the rest.

"i wish a mountain of doubt down". probably that he's got a helluva lot of self-doubt about deciding w/ doing the whole full-time rocker thing, and can't really do nothing but wish it away.

"i'm heir to throne nowhere''. judging that they were had lots of followers at the time they wrote this, it refers to him being an unofficial leader to the kids out there.

"here's where the train ride ends. . ." is all referring to when whatever relationship he was in goes to shit, and she's screaming "is this yer decision?" "we were the best of friends and i'll go nowhere". pretty self- explanitory. it being referred in past-tense is just saying that they were probably the best of friends even before they were all in a full-time band, and a "bros before hoes'' kinda thing.

finally, the whole announcer part is saying that all four of those are all competing for his primary focus. like who he's gonna go w/. his heart's always what he listens to first (gut instincts), then his mind (rational thinking), then his body (it's mentioned that he risks his life to be doing music, so it's down farther along), finally his soul (i'm guessing his traditional sense of morals, dead last, probably cuz he's going by what he thinks is right rather than the conventional right thing" the last one's kind of a stretch though.

and his home's where his heart is, on the bus. that's easy. his heart's in music, so that's his home is on the open road, playin music for all us kids.

i dunno how much of that it's right. meh, i gave it a shot.

what's curious about that is that the gillette cavalcade of sports was a show in the 40's covering mainly boxing in the , so i dunno why it was a horse race metaphor. hmm,

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