"To Forgive" as written by and William Corgan Billy Corgan....
ten times removed
i forget about where it all began
bastard son of a bastard son of
a wild eyed child of the sun
and right as rain, i'm not the same but
i feel the same, i feel nothing
holding back the fool again
holding back the fool pretends
i forget to forget nothing is important
holding back the fool again
i sensed my loss
before i even learned to talk
and i remember my birthdays
empty party afternoons won't come back
holding back the fool again
holding back the fool pretends
i forget to forget nothing is important
holding back the fool again
i forget to forget me
i forget to forget you see
nothing is important to me
i knew my loss
before i even learned to speak
and all along, i knew it was wrong
but i played along, with my birthday song
holding back the fool again
holding back the fool pretends
i forget to forget nothing is important
holding back the fool again


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  • +6
    General CommentMy life is wasted.

    My father hates me.

    Generations back, my failure was written. Years ago, I realized what I had lost before I ever even had it.

    When I forget to forget that nothing is important anymore, things become... ... too much. And I do stupid things.
    Renzokuon May 29, 2002   Link
  • +6
    General CommentSuch great posts before me---I agree with you all. One line in the song really does it for me though...

    "empty party afternoons won't come back"

    This line just elicits in my mind a time-faded picture of a child sitting alone in his backyard with a birthday cake, candles quietly burning out, a tear silently falls from an innocent eye as he waits for someone, anyone, to come spend a bit of time with him...this just perfectly defines the concept of loneliness (a reoccuring Pumpkins theme...in fact, one could make an argument that it is the PREVAILING Pumpkins theme).
    virex7on April 12, 2005   Link
  • +4
    My OpinionTo Forgive hits home for alot of young people. ( or older people who recall these feelings and emotions during their youth.) I think Billy had a cord he used to describe his mother. It's used as the chorus of To Forgive. Then is resurrected and slightly spead as the opening of the song Tear. Which is a medaphor fo rhis mother's sickness and passing. It's the soundtrack of his life so to speak. So listen to Tear first ( since it's faster as the opening to that song.) Then listen to the choorus of To Forgive. He's a genius. But then again, most tormented souls are...
    GezisKryston February 16, 2009   Link
  • +2
    General Commentkinda a fight between the skinnerian "it doesn't matter b/c my life is insignificant anyway and i hav no control over it" vs "yes it does matter, it matters to me"
    ZinbobDanon April 23, 2003   Link
  • +2
    General CommentA song about supressing childhood. 'Holding back the fool'. I learned by loss before I ever learned to speak- the worlds a shitty place, I haven't learned to speak yet, but I can already tell I've lost my innocence. A beautiful song. One of their best.
    letmebeon May 06, 2003   Link
  • +2
    General CommentRenzoku hit the nail right on the head. One of the first times I heard this song, I cried my eyes out, because it described exactly how I felt at the time.
    lawlz4lifeon August 28, 2007   Link
  • +2
    Memoryfavorite song, but i usually say thirty-three and keep this one to myself.

    the heart of this song is a specific memory of billy corgan being beaten/physically abused as kid and then having to go out an act normal at a (his?) birthday party. i remember reading a series of online posts he did around 2005 and most of them seemed to totally give away a song's origin. "writing is therapy" as one of my creative writing high school teacher would say. i think it was on myspace, but the posts aren't there anymore, sadly. peace to all that can relate to this powerful-beautiful song.
    DSLewison October 02, 2009   Link
  • +1
    General Commentthis is a really depressing song when you think about it.
    i think its like renzoku said, a wasted life. but i think hes saying that there was nothing he could of done to better his life "i knew my loss before i even learned to talk"
    when he was a baby he saw how the world worked, and he gave up...just so much depth to this song. its awesome
    pinkubus_floydon July 25, 2002   Link
  • +1
    General CommentGreat song...real depressing too.
    SGMonkee497on August 21, 2002   Link
  • +1
    General Comment'And all along, I knew it was wrong,
    But I played along, with my birthday song'....

    I read in one of Billy's on-line confessions that he once got beaten by his dad on his birthday, and he had to act like nothing would happen while he was having his party. So he could be saying that he had to put on a brave face and pretend like nothing was wrong, even though he knew what had happened wasn't right.
    who_killed_heidi?on May 30, 2006   Link

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