"Vices" as written by and Jesse Lacey....
"Far away from any road,
Froze my heart in solitude,
Where your passerby can see,
Our life's highway guard within,
Knowing when our last does fail,
Our compassion shall be met,
Our life's highway guard within."

We need vices (oh),
We need vices (oh),
Well you took my hope and my marriage license,
(Where's my home?)

Those days are dead
(Forgive me)
Those days are dead
(Forgive me)
Those days are dead
(Forgive me)
We need vices at fifty thousand degrees

She said goodbye to the ground
She said goodbye to the ground
She said goodbye to the ground
I don't care

I got creative (oh no),
To try to kill the major,
Where is my trigger?

And that forest burned
That forest burned
That forest burned
We need ten years, everyone, so we can return

She said goodbye to the ground
She said goodbye to the ground
She said goodbye to the ground
She said goodbye to the ground
She said goodbye to the ground
And jumped

We need vices (oh),
We need vices (oh),
We've done nothing but brandish our disguises

Those days are dead
(Forgive me)
Those days are dead
(Forgive me)
Those days are dead
(Forgive me)
We need vices to wave to the good old days

She said goodbye to the ground
She said goodbye to the ground
She said goodbye to the ground
And jumped


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"Vices" as written by Jesse Lacey

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    General Commenten.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

    puts this into much more perspective.
    laces0utalexon September 01, 2009   Link
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    Song MeaningI think it's important to pay attention to the intro to the song when considering what it means. (It was included for a reason, after all). The track begins with a sample from a gospel hymn called "On Life's Highway," by Bertrand Brown. As far as I can tell, this hymn is a prayer asking for God's strength to help one on the journey of life, especially at times when one tempted to sin, "far away from any road [...] where no passer-by can see."

    Now, the lyrics of Vices are meant to contrast this, just as the calm, soulful melody of the hymn is greatly contrasted by the abrasive vocals and heavy riffs that immediately follow (which, by the way, is the heaviest Brand New has ever done and should really be considered hardcore punk rather than the alternative rock the band usually plays). Just as these sounds are in dissonance with each other, the hymn is meant tot reflect the songs lyrical themes. laces0utalex's pointed out the definition of a 'vice'--a practice or behavior considered immoral in the associated society. While the hymn is about finding the strength to "do the right thing", the rest of this song is about vices--doing the wrong thing.

    In its contrast with the gospel hymn, I see this song as a sort of "fuck you" to God and religion, and to society or life in general. In saying that we NEED vices, he's saying we need sin, imperfection, flaws, mistakes--the things that make us human. Consider these lines: "Our good Creator / The dog in the manger / Where is my shrink and my mind's eraser?" "Dog in the manger" is one of Aesop's fables and has subsequently become an idiom that refers to someone who greedily denies others things which they desire, despite having no desire for those things himself. Here, Jesse is calling God a dog in the manger for denying his followers the right to follow many of their desires and condemning those who do, despite there being little to no real sinfulness or depravity to such actions. In other words, and in context of the rest of the song, he is saying that God, the Church, and perhaps even society unnecessarily begrudge people for certain actions that are arbitrarily and unfairly deemed wrong. Jesse is saying that he will no longer allow the "dog in the manger" to prevent him from doing what he really wants to do--hence the line "Those days are dead (forgive me)," with the phrase "forgive me" being used ironically. In this case, the "dog in the manger" is manifested as judgment from other members of society and the qualms and shame imprinted upon his conscious by this undeserved judgment. In short, this song is Jesse's way of saying "fuck you, I do what I want."

    However the song could also be taken a rather different way--regret. It may not exactly be about doing what is considered wrong--it's about /having done/ the wrong thing in the past. Consider the repeated line "Those days are dead (forgive me)". This song expresses Jesse's regret for his actions in the past. the line "We need ten years on rewind so we can return" further illustrates this, and the line "Where is my shrink and my mind's eraser?" demonstrates his desire to get over the past and find a way to mend the damage that has been done, or at least escape it. This is probably less likely, though.
    Smilodonon August 07, 2012   Link
  • +2
    General CommentThese interpretations are whack. Man, we need us some lyric booklets. Let's all send brand new a dollar and see if it gets us anywhere. :]

    I like this song. I couldn't believe this was the same guy that sang me Play Crack The Sky. I didn't know he had it in him.
    CORPSErawron August 31, 2009   Link
  • +2
    General CommentThe forest burned... interesting. Noro says "if we die, burn the forest."
    Another reason I think this is a quasi-concept album. It all comes full circle.
    Arteron August 31, 2009   Link
  • +2
    General CommentI thought he was saying "shake it by the playground"
    THOR9595on September 02, 2009   Link
  • +2
    Lyric CorrectionPretty sure these are spot on. Google the 'Dog in the Manger Fable', really sheds a lot of light on the meaning of this song. Also neatly links in the "fifteen patons of bread" and the "where's my hay" part.

    We need vices
    We need vices
    Where's all my hope and my marriage license?
    (Where's my hay?)

    Those days are dead (forgive me)
    Those days are dead (forgive me)
    Those days are dead (forgive me)
    We need vices and fifteen patons of bread

    She said goodbye to the ground
    She said goodbye to the ground
    She said goodbye to the ground
    And jumped

    Our good Creator (oh no)
    The dog in the manger
    Where is my shrink and my mind's eraser?
    (we sing a sad song)

    That forest burned (do you see smoke?)
    That forest burned (a halo)
    That forest burned
    We need ten years on rewind so we can return

    She said goodbye to the ground
    She said goodbye to the ground
    She said goodbye to the ground
    She said goodbye to the ground
    She said goodbye to the ground
    And jumped

    We need vices
    We need vices
    We've been needing to brandish our disguises

    Those days are dead (forgive me)
    Those days are dead (forgive me)
    Those days are dead (forgive me)
    We need vices and wheels to the funeral gate

    She said goodbye to the ground
    She said goodbye to the ground
    She said goodbye to the ground
    And jumped
    superjuper27on July 03, 2011   Link
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    General CommentThese interpretations are whack. Man, we need us some lyric booklets. Let's all send brand new a dollar and see if it gets us anywhere. :]

    I like this song. I couldn't believe this was the same guy that sang me Play Crack The Sky. I didn't know he had it in him.
    CORPSErawron August 31, 2009   Link
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    General Commentyeah there are forest/fire references in almost every single song. there is a reason for it, but we really need to see the lyrics booklet. there had BETTER be a lyrics booklet this time, or i'll go nuts.
    andoneheadcanneverdieon September 01, 2009   Link
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    General Commentjust a guess

    wheres my creator? that dark innovator? where is my trigger, my mind eraser?
    yurfavritwepinon September 03, 2009   Link
  • +1
    General Commentwe can figure this out!

    wheres your creator?
    the dark end of ages?...
    where is my trigger, my minds eraser?
    we sing a sad song.
    yurfavritwepinon September 03, 2009   Link

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