The song lyrics were written by the band Van Halen, as they were asked to write a song for the 1979 movie "Over the Edge" starring Matt Dillon. The movie (and the lyrics, although more obliquely) are about bored, rebellious youth with nothing better to do than get into trouble. If you see the movie, these lyrics will make more sense. It's a great movie if you grew up in the 70s/80s you'll definitely remember some of these characters from your own life. Fun fact, after writing the song, Van Halen decided not to let the movie use it.
Brooklyn we go hard
We on the look for the advantage, we work hard
And if we seem to rough it up a bit
We broke but we rich at heart
Pull ourselves up now we won't choke
It's our time, put the lights on us
War tactics they make me sick
Reel your heart in run away with it
Smile in your face, undermine your back
Got guns for the strength they lack
So if you know another way
You can't look the other way
If you know another way
Tell them so right to their face
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
I pay for what's called
Eccentricity and my will to evolve
I hear them all say
That I got heart
But not everything that it takes
Taint my mind but not my soul
Tell you I got fire
I won't sell it for no payroll
Let 'em hold me down
I know if I know another way
I can't look the other way
I know another way
I'll tell them so right to their face
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
Entirely, totally
Bring it all together, I want everything
If it's in, this feels like hot gossip
Demand a recount, we poor folks
Waiting on a trickle with your hands out
I got a life that you can call it luck
Because it wasn't due to you
Don't mean I ain't paying dues, you stupid fuck
I'm on the mind for reaching things that you can't
Just know I'm doing something you ain't
Simple and plain
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We on the look for the advantage, we work hard
And if we seem to rough it up a bit
We broke but we rich at heart
Pull ourselves up now we won't choke
It's our time, put the lights on us
War tactics they make me sick
Reel your heart in run away with it
Smile in your face, undermine your back
Got guns for the strength they lack
So if you know another way
You can't look the other way
If you know another way
Tell them so right to their face
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
I pay for what's called
Eccentricity and my will to evolve
I hear them all say
That I got heart
But not everything that it takes
Taint my mind but not my soul
Tell you I got fire
I won't sell it for no payroll
Let 'em hold me down
I know if I know another way
I can't look the other way
I know another way
I'll tell them so right to their face
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
Entirely, totally
Bring it all together, I want everything
If it's in, this feels like hot gossip
Demand a recount, we poor folks
Waiting on a trickle with your hands out
I got a life that you can call it luck
Because it wasn't due to you
Don't mean I ain't paying dues, you stupid fuck
I'm on the mind for reaching things that you can't
Just know I'm doing something you ain't
Simple and plain
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine
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Brooklyn we go hard We on the look for the advantage, we work hard And if we seem to rough it up a bit We broke but we rich at heart (A basic overview of the people and what life's like where she comes from.) Pull ourselves up now we won't choke It's our time, put the lights on us (Theyr're ready to speak/act/make a stand.)
War tactics they make me sick reel your heart in run away with it (Anti-war propoganda. Reeling us in by our heart strings only to "run away with it.") Smile in your face, undermine your back (The people who do this are being two faced and stabbing us in the back.) got guns for the strength they lack (The use of gun as a compensation for the weakness of not knowing a better method.) So if you know another way you can't look the other way if you know another way, tell them so right to their face (Speak up if you know how things could be better. Speak your mind and tell them-the gov.)
We think you're a joke Shove your hope where it don't shine (4x) (It's bassically a big F.U. to those who are bettering our society with all these crap programs and ideas that make problems better than worse, or that have little to no affect. She's sticking it to the man.)
I pay for what's called eccentricity and my will to evolve (She pays a price for being different and wanting to make personal/profesional achievements.) I hear them all say that I got heart but not everything that it takes (They tell her she's good but not good enough because she just doesn't cut it.)
Taint my mind but not my soul (Cloud my mind but don't touch what gives me life.) Tell you I got fire (I've got spirit.) I wont sell it for no payroll (Her spirit and what makes her HER isn't for sale no matter what they pay her.) Let 'em hold me down (They can try to keep me down for what I'm going. It's more of a threat. Like "try me") I know if I know another way I can't look the other way I know another way I'll tell them so right to their face (She's saying that if she knows a better way, she won't allow herself not to act upon it and let whoever needs to know her plan for salvation (not in a spiritual sense.)
We think you're a joke Shove your hope where it don't shine (4x)
To JamaicanBaccon - wow that is interesting and your explanation of the song is really on point, I'm just now listening to it for the first time. Thanks!
please refrain from line by line deconstructions. songs are generally poetry not prose and at that I think you'd get very mean little man if you shoved cameras in Harlan Ellison's face and tried to tell him your line by line interpretation of "Repent Harlequin, Said the ticktoc man."
I Feel I Got A Better Understanding Of This Entire Song Now. Thanks My Friend
"This song was written way before Obama's campaign, and I’m a supporter of Obama. It was about the current administration’s propagandist tactics (I can’t believe how much that shit still works on people, it’s ridiculous!), and about the power of people and the need for us to speak up. The “hope” I’m speaking of in this song is just a metaphor for all their bullshit talk." Santi White to Michael Roberts in a BackBeat interview for Denver Westword Blogs
I had a similar interpretation to Jamaican's, but with some subtle differences. There's a definite political message here, especially the "war tactics make me sick" lines. That part is about being tired of dirty political messages, trying to sell positive social change with hatred, war, and slandering others. JamaicanB totally taps into that part of the message. However, I think the song is relating this trend to other social problems. These issues are related or inseparable.
The first section of the song is about being from a rougher area. While not explicitly about race, I feel what she's saying as a non-black person of color. She's singing about pride in where you come from, even if most people don't consider it much. It's as if she's saying, "Despite where I come from, I've still got soul and you can't just run over me as a person." We might not be rich, but we've got soul. This ties into later lines when she says,
"I hear them all say that I got heart but not everything that it takes"
Your background, whether it's race or being poor or how you grew up, is often used to hold you down. Others make assumptions that you can't do as much because of this. Maybe I'm biased, but I'm the first of my family to graduate high school and I used to hear this (you got heart, but you gotta have more than THAT to make it) through high school and college all the time. The lyrics talk about the common experience of lots of people like me. You can't keep us down because of where we come from.
The second section is about the politics of keeping people down, as JamaicanB posted. Just because of who we are, we're not going to put up with power-hungry, war-mongering politics. We know better BECAUSE of where we come from. It's our duty to say that there's another way.
The last section is about being true to yourself despite "the man" keeping you down. While I personally connect with this section, I also think that the artist is talking about her own music. People might criticize her for being eccentric, but at least she's not selling out. She's willing to make what she feels inside and to hell with people who don't think she has what it takes.
The whole song weaves these three things together. It's about being true to yourself despite the oppression we face.
When she chants "We think you're a joke. Shove your hope where it don't shine," she's making two statements at once. The first is what some prejudiced person/dirty politician/hipster-wannabe music critic might say to you, "Look at who you are, all hopeful, but you're nobody. We think you're a joke. Shove your hope where it don't shine." However, these words themselves can be reclaimed. We don't have to be held down, "We know how you work and you use guns cause you don't have any other strength. We gain soul from where we come from and who we are. We think you're a joke. Shove your hope where it don't shine."
The chant can be heard both ways. I think she's asking us to decide which way we hear it, but that's just me.
best beat on the album.
she makes a reference to not liking mainstream rappers in 'l.e.s. artistes'. could this song possibly be directed toward the same group of people? my other thought is maybe it's directed to people she experienced throughtout her life in philadelphia.
No, i think she's talking to her white audience -- after all, she's a hipster rapper -- and saying that she and her thugs gotta live gangsta just to get by. <br /> <br /> "So if you know another way you can't look the other way" saying that her white audience is concerned for Santogold and the hoodlums she is hanging out with<br /> <br /> "if you know another way, tell them so right to their face." If you know another (better) way for us to live, tell us straight-up. But you won't cuz you're white and scared shitless of us. And plus there is no other way, obviously. <br /> <br /> Then she tells her white audience that she and her crew think they're "a joke" and that their hope is naive. This is echoed by spank rock's "you counting poor folks on the train with your hands out".<br /> <br /> Basically, I don't really think Santogold is hood at all, cuz this is as coldly and esthetically perfect executed pop-album as I have ever seen. And really everything about her makes me think she is making her material from the point of view of someone who just KNOWS what will become popular. And secondly I really doubt that thugs and gangstas take such great offense at white people who actually have HIGHER expectations for them. Maybe a little offense, but nothing worth writing home about. After all, for many people, it is just a temporary thing.<br /> <br /> "I hear them all say<br /> that I got heart<br /> but not everything that it takes"<br /> This part's really funny cuz, guess what Santi White? Looks like you've been pretty successful since like... (looks up on wikipedia)... at least 1999. And often as a producer, no less. And now your talking like you're some young upstart, because everyone knows that young upstarts MADE hip-hop. (im not sayin that young upstarts actually CREATED hip-hop (likely they did, but maybe they didn't); im saying everyone KNOWS young upstarts made hip-hop)<br /> <br /> (Reading further through the wikipedia article) And when Santogold complains about how critics are labeling her as hip-hop & R&B just because she's black, she has a very good point (fuck you, racist critics!), but at the same time, she is half rapping in this song and she's utilizing hip-hop cliches regularly in her lyrics so stupid hack critics just writing to make a living, without a clue about music, are liable to get confused.<br /> <br /> All that said it's a good beat but I perfer Say Aha... but I may have a weakness for upbeat, summery tunes
hahah i thought it was we thikn ur a joke so u were a dunce hat hhaa
oops i didn't mean to put quotes around that whole post
She's black my fren'. ;)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santo_gold
I'm sure he knows that, but her name is Santi White. Unless you know that, too, and are making a joke.
Yeah that's what I think of when I hear this song.. that and Gossip Girl
i LOVE this song.
up there really high on this amazing album.
super summery. loves it.