Pip I

Smokey Joe you're calling at the station,
"If I kill him there are complications"
I did not ask for this
"Oh but Love yes you did"

maybe it terrifies me
this quiet siege
maybe it terrifies me


Pip II

It's too easy
It's too easy
to wish you harm
It's too easy
you through black ice
at the bottom of the river


Pip I

Smokey Joe hey what's a revelation
"That one's past is not a destination
It is a road for fools
who need empty approvals"


Pip II

My dark twin
the annihilating Feminine
does not need
civilizing


Pip I

maybe it terrifies me
this quiet siege
maybe it terrifies me


Pip II

It's too easy
It's too easy
to wish you harm
It's too easy
you through black ice
at the bottom of the river

Pip I

Smokey Joe can you pass the pipe
you have been blessed now go be wise.
"It is a coward who will say he's not afraid
of dying when clearly he is potently alive"


Pip II

A songless robin
she became
He stole my sister Clitorides.
These silken rubber gloves
Choking his vitriolic tongue

Pip I

maybe it terrifies me
this quiet siege
maybe it terrifies me
this quiet siege


Pip II

It's too easy
It's too easy
to wish you harm
It's too easy
you through black ice
at the bottom of the river

Pip I and Pip II

Smokey Joe is calling at the station
Calling at the station.


Lyrics submitted by stentorian

Smokey Joe song meanings
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    General CommentI agree: this is a very beautiful song.

    I think it's about the darker side of the Feminine, which Pip obviously represents. My guess is that this Smokey Joe is an ex-lover of Clyde's ("He stole my sister Clitorides") who hurt her in some way...maybe emotionally, maybe physically.

    Pip took it upon herself to seek revenge against this Smokey Joe. She wanted to hurt him, but I don't think she did. The power of hate within her terrified her, but she did not really act upon that power. The bit about the pipe and him being wise and leaving probably refers to Pip talking to him and telling her never to do what he did again...she probably threatended him. Maybe she did hurt him? But she obviously didn't kill him.

    I could be way off, but that's how I interpret this song.
    starpatrolleron May 06, 2007   Link
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    General Commenti have no idea but it is beautiful
    dejavulaon April 17, 2007   Link
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    General Commentoh... I think you made it pretty clear, starpatroller... I can agree with you... but this song is really awesome... it scares me a bit but maybe that's one of the reasons why I love it so much...

    and what about the line 'Smokey Joe is calling at the station'... that sounds like important part of the context since it's repeated... any ideas...?
    luplikon May 11, 2007   Link
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    General CommentFirstly, there's a discrepancy with the Lyrics written above. The opening 2 lines should read:
    'Smokey Joe you're calling at the station,
    If I kill him there are complications'
    I agree with you starpatroller - and I think that's exactly what the lyrics are about - and I think that the "Smokey Joe is calling at the station" is representative of him dobbing himself in to the police - he's going to the police station. Clyde's rage overtakes her and she speaks her truth, however, she says "It's too easy to wish you harm" she knows there is no justice in hurting him herself - so she threatens him and forces him to turn himself in for his atrocities.
    calescent_sparkon May 14, 2007   Link
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    General Commenti agree it's about pip taking matters into her own hands cos someone has hurt clyde, but i think smokey joe is a metaphor for her anger and rage - he's calling at the station, in other words, her anger is about to arrive and she's scared she'll act on it. she's debating it with her rational self before the red anger really arrives, what would happen if she did or didn't kill him. that might fit with the peace pipe and stuff, she's weighing it up in her mind, because she senses that this anger is almost at the station, and she knows if it truly arrives she won't be able to hold herself back. fantastic song! my favourite on adp.
    daneypopson September 22, 2007   Link
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    General CommentTo expand a little more on what everyone else has said: Because Clitorides represents the Greek goddess Persephone, Smokey Joe most likely represents Hades, or death himself. "You through black ice / at the bottom of the river" enhances this allusion as a river of black ice is very possibly the river Styx, known to separate the living world from the dead. Hades stole Persephone from the living and, according to some stories, was raped by him. Her mother, Demeter, caused the world to go barren until her daughter was returned and that is actually the source of spring and winter in Greek mythology.

    However, the story of Demeter doesn't really play a part in the song as Pip (personification of Athena) has taken her place. As she is the Goddess of War and of Reason, her siege of rage terrifies her because she must somehow reconcile her rational thought (killing him [the Lord of the Underworld] would cause complications) and her warrior persona. As in many of Tori's songs, the narrator must reconcile identities as every woman must do.

    As sort of off topic, I love that she uses the sobriquet "Smokey Joe" to refer to Hades. It reminds me of the Disney film "Hercules" when I was younger and Hades had a smokey kind of head.
    saggy812on January 12, 2008   Link
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    General CommentI love these interpretations, but somehow, I think it might have to do with a flashback too. calling at the station might mean calling in her head.
    ashfeatheron January 15, 2008   Link
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    General CommentHer lover abuses her and she's sitting at the kitchen table with a gun and a bottle of vodka thinking about shooting him dead. But living without him terrifies her more than the act.

    She thinks about firing the gun, the way it'll smoke, the way it would end them, but she can't decide what to do it.

    She starts fantasizing how she'd do it, how she'd get away, how her life would be better. Finally, at the end, he walks in and she holds up the gun on him. Is she going to shoot him or just leave?
    Aveunon October 08, 2008   Link
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    General CommentNice. A lot of these clarify the song a lot in my head, and give it a little more dimension. But at the core, it's still to me a revenge song, one that owns up to its own anger and admits that vengeance can be a little satisfying
    BibleNameon July 11, 2009   Link
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    General CommentI love this song... It's one her more sinister ones.
    I think it's about a deep anger towards someone (possibly the rapist) and the anger is causing her to have thoughts about hurting him, getting revenge ("it's too easy, it's too easy to wish you harm").
    She thinks that killing him would make her feel better, but she also knows that she shouldn't ("if I kill him there are complications") so instead she thinks about all the ways she would hurt him.

    Because American Doll Posse is all about the different parts of Tori's personality, it's like one part of herself (Pip) is singing about the other parts - she talks about her 'twin'. When she says "he stole my sister clitorides" I think this is a reference to rape. (clitorides = Clyde). Maybe Tori was imagining a group of women coming together, talking about how much they were hurt by the rapist, and plotting their revenge on him.
    "I did not ask for this, 'oh but yes you did'" suggests she is battling with shame and guilt associated with the rape - she knows it is not her fault, but there is still part of her pinning the blame on herself.
    "Maybe it terrifies me, this quiet siege" - the anger and destructive thoughts are so strong, and they scare her. The anger (quiet siege) has been building up over time, and suddenly she is overwhelmbed by these thoughts.
    shadowfeeton June 03, 2011   Link

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