The Point Sometimes

i think this is about two people who were in love, but then something sudden happened, like a move, and they grew apart, realizing their love really wasn't forever, and that things change, people change.

just a note... i think the line goes "and as the water rises / perch shrinks in size / and i'll take off" seeing as she says she's the gull, and he's the rock, and the water rising would cause the rock to shrink in size and she'd have to fly off.

i love that metaphor . very clever

To me this song is about the end of a relationship that never really worked to begin with.

"Get rid of the ocean If you ever wanna see me again Our shores are separated With or without a boat'"

He seems distant- there is no close bond between them. She can't continue the relationship unless the barriers are broken down.

"And I know that if November had been deader If we'd hidden a bit better We'd be strangers"

They never had a deep connection. This makes their relationship sound like a last resort rather than something that was always meant to be.

"You're a rock, I'm a gull Might be okay to stay if you could hold me But you got no way to do so"

He doesn't make her happy. There is no attraction to keep them together.

"And you know that nothing lasts forever And depending on the weather I'm a changer"

She's guided by her feelings. The relationship doesn't feel right so she's made the decision to move on. This guy she's with isn't providing her with the happiness and fulfilment she seeks in a partnership.

I agree with the past posts. She's not comfortable in the relationship she was in, and is trying to get out of it. She's saying people change, and it's time to let go.

This song makes me want to hate men. lol

isnt a perch a fish? and she calle dhim a rock not a perch, i think she was using the metaphor differently, she on the rock , but the water is rising and the fish are shrinkin//gettin deeper//out of sight, so theres nothing left for her there.... so she flies away

perch is a verb as in, "the gull was perched on the rock" so it does make sense. i don't think fish have anything to do with it. the "perch" is the rock that the gull is resting on.

I love this. I think it's like those impossible demands a relationship can have. She's demanding him to get rid of the ocean. It's something he can't do so she leaves him.

I think it's a love story. Gone awry, clearly. I interpret it as.. The girl was, in fact, in love with the boy. And I think the feelings were requited. However, there is something he will not do for her. For example, let's say it's a long distance relationship, and he won't come to her: "You're a rock, I'm a gull" A rock meaning, he stays put. And her being a gull, and a changer, she will ultimately move on from him.

I don't believe either are detached from one another as some people here have offered. Just the line 'Might be okay to stay if you could hold me' suggests that she'd be content with staying in one place if he was with her, in that place.

I think its about there relationship after they broke up. She's asking him to "get rid of the ocean" or get rid of his disrespect towards her if he ever wants to have her in his life again.

The shores seperated means that they already have different lives but there is still tension between them whether they are trying to work things out or not..."with or without a boat".

Then she goes on about nothing lasts forever.. As in their relationship in the past. she's a "changer" "depending on the weather" means that she changes feelings toward him depending on how he's treating her at the moment. Meaning they've had lots of conflict throughout their time together and apart.

The november part is that she met him in november and that she might of not even gotten together unless they met that night. I'm guessing it was at some party because if your month was "dead", then your probably not going out much.

the breaze and glitch in the tide is about the beginning of their relationship. It symbolizes that she didn't have any idea that he was a huge "storm" which means that they fought a lot in their relationship The sailing and boating in it is about them trying hard to get through it because they both loved eachother even though they fought a lot.

"Your a rock, I'm a gull" Means that he can't change. He has serious issues that will be in his life forever. She is a gull because she's a free spirit. Rocks can't hold things obviously. So I think that line means that despite his issue, he can't hold on to her because he has those problems and she can't live with that because she knows better.

And as the water rises on their relationship... meaning they just had too many problems and fights to stay with him any longer so she had to leave him.

The last part phrase is just reminding him that relationships don't last forever and that she had to move on in life.

she repeats "depending on the weather, I'm a changer" again too because depending on what's good or bad in her life, she'll be changing... growing... learning...

this interpretation was inspired by my last relationship and I think I'm almost exactly dead on with this in my opinion. I had a boyfriend with an anger problem and I know he'll never change. I tried so hard to make it work, but things just got worse so I had to move on. If I didn't meet him that one night, we probably would have never gotten together. I had no clue I was getting into a very emotional relationship, but I'm glad it came now instead of when I'm older, because I've grown a lot from it and now I know what the warning signs are. As of now... we are not speaking to eachother because he was just as disrespectful to me now as when we were together, so I told him that if he ever wanted to see me again, he would have to come up witha big apologize and give me the respect I deserve, but I know that won't happen so life goes on. :]

Sorry if this was way too personal. This song just has a huge connection with me.