"Point of Know Return" as written by Steve Walsh, Ehart Phil and Robert Steinhardt....
I heard the men saying something
The captains tell they pay you well
And they say they need sailing men to
Show the way and leave today
Was it you that said, how long?
How long?

They say the sea turns so dark that
You know it's time, you see the sign
They say the point demons guard is
An ocean grave for all the brave
Was it you that said, how long, how long
How long to the point of know return?

Your father, he said he needs you
Your mother, she said she loves you
Your brothers, they echo your words
How far to the point of know return?
To the point of know returnO
How long, how long?

Today I found a message floating
In the sea from you to me
You wrote that when you could see it
You cried with fear, the point was near
Was it you that said
How long, how long, how long to the point of know return?
How long, how long to the point of know return
No return
How long
How long
How long
How long
How long
How long
How long
How long


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"Point of Know Return" as written by Robert Steinhardt Ehart Phil

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  • +2
    General CommentIt is about the insanity that accompanies a wicked spiritual awakening. Ecstatic and frightening.
    eagon February 09, 2009   Link
  • +1
    General CommentThis just a guess, but it used to be that becoming a sailor was a rather dangerous venture. You went to sea "knowing" you might not return home.
    Heikeon December 05, 2004   Link
  • +1
    General CommentI think that this song means that there is a call for special men (or women) with leadership qualities, who can get things done despite the nay sayers (the demons) who would rather watch you fail and criticize your efforts. Whether these men were explorers of the past, or soldieers, or business leaders (i.e. Bill Gates), the words aply equally.
    stevebufoon April 08, 2005   Link
  • +1
    General CommentI think this may be about the earth being flat the way it was tought to be long ago.
    hossynossy04on June 19, 2007   Link
  • +1
    General Commentand the "know" is about the fact that the earth is really round, and eventually you will return to where you started
    hossynossy04on June 19, 2007   Link
  • 0
    General CommentCould someone please tell me why it is spelled "know" in The Point of Know Return?

    ---Thanks
    wannabeon December 01, 2004   Link
  • 0
    General CommentWhen I first heard the song I thought there was no meaning at all, but when I finally looked up the lyrics, I instantly thought of a friend of mine named Corin who's in the army

    "I heard the men saying something
    The captains tell they pay you well
    And they say they need sailing men to
    Show the way, and leave today
    Was it you that said, "How long, how long?""
    That me think of how Corin always wanted to be in the army as long as I can remember

    "They say the sea turns so dark that
    You know it's time, you see the sign
    They say the point demons guard is
    An ocean grave, for all the brave,
    Was it you that said, "How long, how long,
    How long to the point of know return?""
    That part is saying that the trip isn't going to be easy, and that only the brave people who survive will make it all the way through

    "Your father, he said he needs you
    Your mother, she says she loves you
    Your brothers, they echo your words:
    "How far to the point of know return?"
    "Well, how long?""
    That's talking about how the army is going to make you a better man (Your father, he said he needs you), how people back home miss him (Your mother, she says she loves you), and how he's a hero to some people, including me (Your brothers, they echo your words)

    "Today I found a message floating
    In the sea from you to me
    It said that when you could see it
    You cried with fear, the Point was near
    Was it you that said, "How long, how long
    To the Point of Know Return?""
    That part reminds me of how Corin mailed me saying that it's hard, but he's going to stick with it and see it all the way through
    moosehasspokenon April 17, 2007   Link
  • 0
    General CommentSadly, it's about suicide. "The Point of Know Return" is death. The person was anxious to get to the point of know return, and left nothing behind except a note in a bottle -- a suicide note.
    machinenvyon November 16, 2011   Link
  • 0
    My InterpretationDreaming has two functions, the first is to rest the body, the second is to return to the point of origin.

    This song is talking about being born.

    I heard the men saying something
    The captains tell they pay you well
    And they say they need sailing men to
    Show the way, and leave today
    Was it you that said, "How long, how long?"

    Before we were born, we wanted to come to earth, and we knew there would be both joy and pain here. Still, we also knew that by coming here we would lose the knowledge of where we were. So being born, meant to completely change into a new creature, a new life. There was much anticipation to be on earth and yet fear. Because in order to enter earth, in an earthly body, we must die as well.

    The ocean of darkness is being in the womb. When we first discovered physical darkness.

    "Today I found a message floating
    In the sea from you to me
    You wrote that when you could see it
    You cried with fear, the Point was near
    Was it you that said, "How long, how long
    To the Point of Know Return?"

    The floating message was the point of light in the darkness. The vagina opening for birth, or the doctor opening the uterus for birth.

    Still...when we dream at night, we go back to that other world and live and bring back knowledge to live this life on earth as well.

    The point of "knowledge" returning ? What this lyricist is trying to convey, is the moving of the soul between realms, Earth itself being a realm. The dream realm, the physical realm, the ethereal realm, they all exist together and need to synchronize in order to function under the laws of destiny.
    Maagson September 12, 2014   Link
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    General CommentThis is a really fantastic song! The more I listen to it the more I appreciate it. Its simply about the spiritual journey. That can be in real life, or dreams, or as a soldier, or through death, etc. It really doesnt matter what that journey is to you. Its to me really about the personal spiritual hero-journey inside.....the one Joesph Campbell the late mythologist described. In that journey you travel inside yourself and face your most terrible monsters, and unguided plunge into the unconscious of the self and there face the truth of your life. You then learn the real bliss of your own life and what you were meant to be and return. Its a point of "know" return, much like the Buddha. When you go past the point you cant return to the dark or clouded view of your life ever again as you have awakened. Its a very Eastern Religious type of experience. It doesnt take much to imagine Kansas exploring various themes in their music related to the Monomyth or hero's journey. But they simply talked about that journey very well with very strong metaphors here.
    mitch11573on January 20, 2015   Link

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