Pancake

I think the chorus could mean something about how all religions have borrowed things from eachother (like how pagan holidays were incorporated into christianity..), "you give me yours I give you mine". but there are christians who refuse to take this into account if they make blanket statements by saying theirs is the one true religion, and they refuse to look her God right in the eye, refuse to accept that their religion is borrowed from others.

the whole 'you say "i ordered you a pancake"', to me, means that someone else (say, family or upbringing) has "ordered" a specific faith for her, prescribed it, one which she doesnt accept as her own. pancake referring to communion - someone ordered her to partake in that sacrament.

one of my favorite songs, for sure. Like all of her music, its so rich in meaning, especially if you have dealt with a deep conflicting internal religious conflict or existential crises, etc... And the music itself is so beautiful. Its such an experience to learn what she is saying in her songs.

Besides the obvious religious interpretations I think this song could also touch on when it comes to being in the presence or someone (or groups of people) who simply don't have the same way of thinking as yourself. "who's fooling who here" there is a facade that everything is fine and going well, but underneath there are some core differences in the way you and the other person question things or relate to the world, and perhaps you are both in denial. When you are somewhat deep in your mind in thought usually out in a public situation with someone and you want to believe you are on the same page mentally, but then after all this deep thought the person says something as simple as "i ordered you a pancake". It's the quintessential moment that makes you see the surface level of what the dynamic is that you might have with them. It could be innocent and not intentional but it shows how no matter how well you can relate to others no one may quite understand the depth of your thoughts. The statement of "i ordered you a pancake" very much represents the lack of ability to converse about things that really matter, and it gives you a kind of epiphany on the reality of your dynamic with the person. This isn't quite touching on the religious analysis which can be tied into that notion ( which i could partake in as well), but i've always interpreted the lyric in this way, having had these situations in the past.

"I ordered you a pancake."

I read this interview when this album first came out, and tori was talking about how she was in the restroom of a restaurant, looking in the mirror, and having a total revelation. Then when she came out and got to the table her husband looked up from his menu and said, "I ordered you a pancake." Thus completely shattering the entire thought process. (Can't you just picture the look on her face?)

I need to dig through boxes and find that article again.

I was listening to this song the other day, the one with the added verse, which you can get from
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these are the lyrics to the added verse.

you tear through them fields of cotton the impressionable ones i believed in you once so did she, she was so young

you turn the man against the land you turn the woman against her own you are power, you are ambition you like ‘em blonde

and with this, I believe this is a very political song. Tori is speaking directly to this essence of "the man" and not just "the man in America" I mean "the man" everywhere. In different countries, in different cultures, in different religions, and in different societies.

I had an epiphany when I was stoned, laying and listening. Tori is speaking for the humans who once had morals and value, the tribes who understood earth and the balance within the chaos. The evil and the good forces of nature.

So, now I am trying to unlock the hidden secrets of Scarlet's Walk..I jump from album to album and I think Scarlet is speaking.

My favorite song from a great album.

"Messiahs need people dying in their name" has a lot of resonance. Not only is it referencing the millions who've died in religious wars from medieval to modern times, including the 9-11 suicide bombers, it could also refer to the darker aspects of traditional Catholicism, which has led its believers to try to "kill" aspects of themselves that the church condemns: their own sexuality, political power, and independent/scientific thought. Kill the Satan within!

This all connects to: "Segregate the mind from body and soul." She's talking about the whole messed up Judeo-Christian dichotomy that pits the "sinful" body against the "godly" spirit and mind. Whereas pre-Christian and other spiritual belief systems are more holistic and don't condemn humans as naturally evil and in need of salvation....

To me, this song has always seemed clearly political, and related to 9/11. "We both know you could deflate a 7 huricane" is in relation to Huricane Katrina, and America's "decay". In other words, a major disaster was downplayed by the government. "You and your tribe" is a reference to the government in general...president, and his tribe, congress, etc.

"I believe in defending what we once stood for" is pretty obvious. We used to stand for equality, not misogyny or homophobia. "A flag on a popstar on a benzodiazapene" is a clear reference to three things...flag worship, popstar worship and pharmaceutical worship.

Zion is obviously in reference to Israel. "Zion please remove your glove", is a plea for a perceived Israeli influence in our government to end, or at least show itself. This sets up the next part. "Dispel every trace of his spoken word that has lodged in my vortex" is a prayer of sorts, that the lies of the government will end.

"You could have spared her, oh, but no. Messiahs need people dying in their name", seems like a personal reference. Maybe someone that Tori knew who died on 9/11. But the "messiah" needed people to die in order to give themselves power.

Last line. "You say 'I ordered you a pancake'", I think, is a reference to the collapse of the Twin Towers on 9/11. The buildings collapsed in a manner known as "pancaking". I think that Tori believes that 9/11 was an inside job, and the destruction of the Twin Towers was a justification for what was to come. I just feel that these lyrics have heavy political overtones, and based on the tie frame in which they were written, this is the conclusion I have come to.

It is not uncommon in Catholic churches to have a Pancake/Communion breakfast with certain members of the congregation. If he's ordering her a Pancake he is forcing her to be a part of the group, making her submissive.

I think it's to do with religion too, but for me I imagine pancake to be a choice taken away from you. I didn't know a pancake was a word for communion wafer, but I always pictured a woman leaving a table in a restaurant for two minutes, and coming back and someone else has ordered for her, she has no choice about it. I think this links to religion, those who simply tell you what to follow or believe and don't encourage or permit you to question it.

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i dont get it!!!!! why order a pancake!?!?!?!

I believe this song is about all of the people and churches that try to force their religion on everyone, and how their congregations are falling apart.