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(We're rolling suicide)
Wake up (wake up)
Grab a brush and put a little make up
Hide the scars to fade away the shake up (hide the scars to fade away the)
Why'd you leave the keys upon the table?
Here you go, create another fable, you wanted to
Grab a brush and put a little makeup, you wanted to
Hide the scars to fade away the shake up, you wanted to
Why'd you leave the keys upon the table? You wanted to
I don't think you trust
In my
Self-righteous suicide
I cry
When angels deserve to die
Ah
Wake up (wake up)
Grab a brush and put a little make up
Hide the scars to fade away the (hide the scars to fade away the)
Why'd you leave the keys upon the table?
(Here you go) create another fable, you wanted to
Grab a brush and put a little makeup, you wanted to
Hide the scars to fade away the shake up, you wanted to
Why'd you leave the keys upon the table? You wanted to
I don't think you trust
In my
Self-righteous suicide
I cry
When angels deserve to die
In my
Self-righteous suicide
I cry
When angels deserve to die
Father (father), father (father)
Father (father), father (father)
Father, into your hands
I commend my spirit
Father, into your hands
Why have you forsaken me?
In your eyes forsaken me
In your thoughts forsaken me
In your heart forsaken me, oh
Trust in my
Self-righteous suicide
I cry
When angels deserve to die
In my
Self-righteous suicide
I cry
When angels deserve to die
Wake up (wake up)
Grab a brush and put a little make up
Hide the scars to fade away the shake up (hide the scars to fade away the)
Why'd you leave the keys upon the table?
Here you go, create another fable, you wanted to
Grab a brush and put a little makeup, you wanted to
Hide the scars to fade away the shake up, you wanted to
Why'd you leave the keys upon the table? You wanted to
I don't think you trust
In my
Self-righteous suicide
I cry
When angels deserve to die
Ah
Wake up (wake up)
Grab a brush and put a little make up
Hide the scars to fade away the (hide the scars to fade away the)
Why'd you leave the keys upon the table?
(Here you go) create another fable, you wanted to
Grab a brush and put a little makeup, you wanted to
Hide the scars to fade away the shake up, you wanted to
Why'd you leave the keys upon the table? You wanted to
I don't think you trust
In my
Self-righteous suicide
I cry
When angels deserve to die
In my
Self-righteous suicide
I cry
When angels deserve to die
Father (father), father (father)
Father (father), father (father)
Father, into your hands
I commend my spirit
Father, into your hands
Why have you forsaken me?
In your eyes forsaken me
In your thoughts forsaken me
In your heart forsaken me, oh
Trust in my
Self-righteous suicide
I cry
When angels deserve to die
In my
Self-righteous suicide
I cry
When angels deserve to die
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This song is about comparing suicide with martyrdom. The verse "Wake up, grab a brush and put on on a little make up" and so on is talking about the hidden stories in the bible and hiding the bad things they never told about christ in the bible. Then "here you go create another fable" another religious story. The chorus is saying the fact that Jesus could be looked at from a viewpoint of suicide. Then the thrid verse "father, into your hands, I commend my spirit" and "father, into your hands, why have you forsaken me" are two of seven last words of christ. The direct definition of "chop suey" is a dish filled with a mix of all the leftovers (meaning the leftovers of stories in the bible never heard)
I couldnt agree more, but what interests me is the line "Why'd you leave the keys upon the table?"<br /> <br /> According to your theory, does this mean the facts that were hidden can easely be unlocked? If that is the thruth, why is Jesus not agreeing with this by asking WHY?<br /> <br /> As I understood, Jesus is angry in this song at God, his father, for hiding all the parts of the story.
I do strongly agree with most of this, however, in an interview, SOAD said that the original title of the song was suicide, but that didnt work well with the label...its possible that they picked some random name...<br /> <br /> Chop-Suicide?
Extremus, to be more specific "Allah Allah lamma sabcthani" (probably mis-spelled) among the last words of Christ. Translated from the original Hebrew "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" This was not an angry sort of statement, he was actually asking.<br /> <br /> To help further explain the song, my thought "self righteous suicide"... because Jesus "sacrificed" himself on the cross for peoples' "sins" people around the world "praise" him. Thus his dying (if he is/was God) would be for self righteous reasons.
I agree with this, could "You wanted to" be people wanting to hide the bad in the bible?<br /> Also I agree with Extremus'es idea about keys.<br /> I don't think it could be about the domestic abuse because the thrid verse "father, into your hands, I commend my spirit" and "father, into your hands, why have you forsaken me" are as JofaGuht said are two of seven last words of christ.
You have the best reasoning in your description (in my opinion), and a great view on the song meaning. I agree with you. Theres something I dont get about SOAD though, they are Armenian Christians. (Like most armenians). But they often question the picture of God thats painted by the bible. I would be interested to learn more about their personal views, as I know they believe in God and Christ. Maybe they are Catholic. (But I highly doubt that)....... I would lean more towards them just questioning the picture of God through the bible.
the combination of all the replies are right. the facts CAN be easily unlocked, but jesus is covering up how easy it is (make up).<br /> <br /> btw its eloi eloi lema sabbachtani
Sobetbone: It could be that they're christians but have some questions about christianity, or maybe they don't agree with everything in the bible...
christianpunk20: I agree with you completely. Now, I don't think that SOAD is christian for the way they perform, and their style of music. However, this does not mean I don't like their music, I think they're an amazing band, just not christian.
SOAD does not seem Christian, they seem to be new age (or cosmic humanists). They seem to believe everyone is one and all religions are pieces to their believed one true religion. A huge part of cosmic humanism is that everyone is god or holy and in the end of this world everyone will be united into one god. Since they might believe all religions are pieces to one true religion, an explanation of them sounding as if they are Christian to some is because they believe in some Christian values (like murdering is wrong) but do not hold true to every Christian belief. Also, on the Toxicity cd booklet Daron Malakian thanks "God, Buddha, Allah and Lucifer because they are all so lovely..." and Serj thank "The Great Spirit for vision..." The song seems to be saying that Christ's sacrifice was self righteous rather than a selfless act for the people he loves as the Bible describes. I like Extremus' idea about the keys. It's like they are saying the pieces to the truth are there, but all one needs to do is pick up the keys and unlock the truth. And I like JofaGuht's idea about the makeup, but it could be used to cover up the other religions rather than hidden stories from the Bible. Also, look at the song Aerials. I seems very New Age ("Life is a waterfall, we're one in the river and one again after the fall." It seems to be saying everyone was once One and will be One again after these lives on earth or something). I do not agree with SOAD's beliefs if I am correct in this analysis, but this could be what the song is talking about.
This is completely right, in an interview, Serj said that sacrifice is really just self righteous suicide<br /> <br /> "I don't think you trust, in, my, self righteous suicide" And yes it does relate to the story of Jesus' "sacrifice"
I love SOAD and all, but neither Daron nor Serj are Christians (dunno bout Odadjian or Dolomayan for sure, though I'd think Dolmayan would be). But I'd like to take a moment and say that not once was Christ angry at God in his entire life, as he led a sinless existence to free humanity from sin. Being angry at God WOULD, after all, constitute a sin. Also, Christ actually WAS God in a literal sense, so he would not ask WHY God would hide a truth from him. On the cross, he was actually despairing over the fact that the only way to save man would be a three day stint in Hell. The question "Why have you forsaken me" does not have the connotation that people are describing at this site. All in all, it's a song about how Serj, a neo-transcendentalist, does not fully understand anything that the ancient and correct text of our Holy Bible says, and he is making a political statement about a great portion of the world's beliefs. Take this from a practicing minister.
no, it actually was originally named "Suicide" but they had to change it so they could play it on the radio. but the chop-suey thing makes sense.
Very accurate interpretation. I seen an interview where they asked Serj Tankian and Daron Malakian what other jobs they could see themselves in if it wasn't for rock band. Daron answered that he might have been a preacher. He also said he really gets into religion and philosophy. So why do angels deserve to die? It has to do with Christ and the crucifixion and his last words, because it was written that he would have 12 legions of angels at his command Matthew 26:53 Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels? and Psalm 91:11-12 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone. In both cases the angels failed him during the crucifixion and didn't come to his add. So do they deserve to die? He cried because they didn't do their job and Christ was beaten and hung on the cross as the angels stood and watched.
Shadowspawn... you basically explained a huge part of Hinduism. Brahman can be metaphorically described as an ocean of souls, and every individual soul is a drop in this ocean that will eventually reunite with Brahman and then (through the belief of reincarnation) reincarnate into, most likely, a greater creature. For example, cricket to frog, frog to fox, fox to monkey, monkey to human. Then, assuming the existence of extraterrestrial life greater than humans, going on to them. That's why a lot of Indians are vegetarians. They don't want to eat a part of Brahman. I don't know everything for sure, it's wierd. But I do know that basic sense of it, and it sounds like this cosmic humanism is nothing but an Agnostic (?) belief in that it is an easy way out and the easiest way to fit in with everyone and not be apart. To ne, Agnosticisim is nothing but laziness. Either pick a side, or get off the fence because the fence is getting torn down real soon!
i think that "leaving the keys on the table" refers to Jesus' rebirth, like he left the key to the "door" on the table, and that when he was reborn, he hid all of his scars, and he did all of this because he wanted to. then when it says "here u go create another fable" its talking about how his rebirth almost started his life anew, another fable, a story if you will. <br /> <br /> just putting my two cents in
Since I think you've all got some really plausible ideas, I'm just gonna throw in a conjecture for what the keys might represent. Biblically speaking, Christ took "the keys of hell and death" from Satan during the three days prior to his resurrection. I'm not sure what the table might represent, but I think there's a good chance that those are the keys being referred to. Maybe it means that Jesus feels manipulated and used, and that his death means nothing because the prize he died to get isn't even being put to use, just "left upon the table" by his father.
I think the keys thing probably has to do with the fact that there were some things Christ left for others to answer before he died, hence the keys. The keys would belong to anyone who wanted to simply take them off of the table, and the fact that it's plural means there is more than one person that will use these keys. Using these keys would be giving access to have people distort the story by interpretation. Any questions Christ left unanswered, some people answered themselves by taking the keys and opening the door to Christianity, the religion that worships Christ. I am not saying at all that Christianity is fake and stupid, not at all, but I'm saying it's possible people have distorted the story a bit over time. Indeed, the fact that this is a possibility is very hard to think about because so many people have been believing the distorted story, if the story was distorted. Can you imagine if you have been believing the opposite of what you thought you believed in? This is why it is such an issue to those who think about it.
@JofaGuht The bible isn't a fable, and Jesus didn't have a baby lol, sorry that's just a conspiracy and this meaning i obviously and argument or suicide by reading, but when Jesus says why have you forsaken me, he must not only suffer the death of flesh but spirit as well and the feeling of being completely shut out by God... Sorry i stick with facts. So many people comment on the bible without reading or realize everything said has came true, They listen or grow up in a world of youtube or think they have stumpled onto some secret or aliens (which don't exist lol) yea they are going to travel millions of years to disprove Jesus and say they made us... lol... Good day sir.
When he asks why have you forsaken me he doesn't literally mean forgot him or no longer had his back. God was pissed at them for killing his son and u know what God did to man when he was pissed b4 he sent Jesus to die for our sins. Which is why Jesus says god forgive them for they know not what they do. When he says why have u forsaken Me it's because God had always spoken to him and filled him with the holly spirit to do his works but when he was being killed god got both angry and sad. The sky turned black. He didn't wish to watch his son die cause it angered him and caused him grieve. However Jesus felt it when he took away his presence and he was asking where did you go? Jesus was usually filled with the holy spirit not now so it was given back to his father's hands. Now in the song it seems like Jesus is saying where are you when I need u most was any of it real or is this basically suicide. And why should I have to cry when angels -like Satan -Deserve to die
@JofaGuht The song was originally going to be called Suicide, but they changed the name at the last minute because reasons. They chose the name Chop Suey because Suey is the first syllable in Suicide.
@JofaGuht Its about the Crucifixion. Christ said If I wanted to I could bring down a whole army of Angels. By allowing himself to be Crucified the band is saying it could be seen considered self righteous. Father into your hands...was a quote on Jesus saying why does he have to die when the Angels that fell were permitted to live? They are playing with the Question of if Jesus knew he was going to die and why then why did he accuse God of Forsaking him? All Christians get hung up on that line. I thought the song was very obvious but then again I know Scripture.
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who's the idiot that flagged everyone for having an opinion?
The whole band have never stated an official meaning to any of their songs so that fans can interpret songs for themselves. Well this is my interpretation.
A lot of interpretations are heavily religious tied, mine is slightly different.
To me this song is about someone who really wants to kill them self, but everyone around that person doesn't understand why.
This is going to be lengthy but bear with me In their life they "grab a brush and put a little makeup" on and "hide the scars and fade away the shakeup" so that everyone else doesn't see how depressed/traumatized the person really is.
Then the verse repeats with "YOU WANTED TO!" on the end of each line. To me this symbolizes everyone else blaming the person for not taking control of his/her life. In "Why'd you leave the keys up on the table - you wanted to", the keys symbolize the tool to control the person's life, and he/she just left it out for anyone to take. As in "you wanted to hide the scars, you couldn't even take control of what's happening in your life".
In the pre-chorus sections, where we hear "I don't think you trust, in my self righteous suicide". The change in tempo and new instruments symbolizes that another person is talking, it's the suicidal person trying to explain that he/she has had enough and it would be best that their life is ended.
Now we hear "I cry when angels deserve to die" and later on "Father!... Why have you forsaken me?" - this symbolizes the person looking at the world and seeing the injustice and cruelty in it. As in, there are so many people who claim to be 'angels' but in reality they have done horrible things and deserve to die than most people, as well as thinking 'so many bad things are happening in the world, how could god let this happen, how could god forsake us, how could he forsake me?'.
By definition "Chop Suey" is a Chinese dish made with a lot of mixed ingredients, similar to how modern society has mixed views on suicide.
In some interviews System of a down said that they wanted to put the word 'suicide' in the name. But didn't because everyone would censor it, so they named it Chop Suey(cide) as a play on words.
Daron Malakian (System of a Down guitarist) stated in an interview that - "The song is about how we are regarded differently depending on how we pass. Everyone deserves to die. Like, if I were now to die from drug abuse, they might say I deserved it because I abused dangerous drugs. Hence the line, 'I cry when angels deserve to die'".
So yeah, to my this song is about someone contemplating or attempting suicide - in the album version you even hear Serj say at the start "We're all in suicide".
FYI at the start of the song Serj says "We're rolling 'Suicide'", as in they are going to record the song 'Suicide' which was the song's original title before 'Chop Suey!'. As you said above they wanted to include the word 'suicide' in the name but didnt.
Thanks! The song makes much more sense now. But for the line "when angels deserve to die" after reading this I recalled how I felt for a while not so long ago. There was a time when I was suicidal and the only things that went through my head was "why am I surrounded by assholes?" "Nobody cares if I live or die" And "I am the one with the purest heart around, a white spot surrounded by black matter, I don't belong, I deserve to get out of this shithole, I deserve to die".
This is exactly the meaning that I'd given the song, even before reading your post. I still couldn't figure out what it meant by "Father" but now it makes sense. :)<br />
@Fals3Alarm i agree with you. this makes so much sense! amazing advice
@Fals3Alarm Do most songs in the metalcore have official meaning or is it free-for-interpretation?
@Fals3Alarm Wow. Thanks for that amazing interpretation, never thought of something like that:
@Fals3Alarm Fabulous job.
@Fals3Alarm I like this interpretation<br />
The mark of a great artist and a great song is that it can mean different things to different listeners. Previous posts have correctly pointed out the Biblical references to Jesus' cruxification, where Jesus' last words question and doubt God. A non-Christian could view Jesus as a man that orchestrated his own death (i.e., "self-righteous suicide"). And Jesus' doubting God at the end should make us question whether Jesus' legacy as the Messiah isn't just a fable. (If you're a Christian and your faith tells you otherwise, that's fine, but make sure you're finding those answers for yourself and not just blindly following the guidance of others.)
The song uses Jesus' story as a metaphor for our own lives. So to apply to our own lives... The beginning lyrics speak about those of us that wake up every day and are untrue to our real selves (putting on an artificial surface, creating fables). So this might apply to many previous posted suggestions, such as the abused wife, the drug abuser, the religious zelot, etc. I think the message of the song is don't follow a self-destructive path without deeply questioning what you're doing. In other words, if your life is leading to your own destruction, but somehow you can justify it, then it's nothing but suicide and you have no one to blame but yourself.
I concur. This song is to be taken somewhat metaphorically. This meaning also ties in with previous posts about addiction; which can now make sense in this light.
Your writing is beautiful.
@MicDaddy - Thank you for this! I LOVE how SOAD lyrics encourage real discussions and intelligent dialog...while I can appreciate all of these comments, your post resonates most true to me. I had never even considered a metaphorical interpretation - I've always seen it as a person raised by religious zealots questioning his faith, leading to his ultimate suicide. But your thoughts help me see from a different view!
@MicDaddy Jesus never doubted God. Jesus was left in darkness by God because He carried the sins of the whole world. There is a very big difference between doubting and asking God "why".... In the end Jesus cried out saying "Father unto you I commit my Spirit" and he breathe His last.
The song is about suicide.
Another commenter noted that the song was originally called "Suicide" but the record company made them change it. I was thinking about that...
So what did they do? They "chopped" the word in half so you just had "Sui" or "suey" for phonetics sake. The exclamation point, in my opinion, was icing on the cake saying to the record company, "look, we did what you told us, we made a happy! song...eff you." Even right before the song starts, you know how one person in the band tells the other members what song they're playing next? You can hear either the drummer or lead say "okay..Suicide" like he's giving the cue,"okay, we're going to play this song now."
With that said, I agree with the commenter who quoted the lead singer "the song is about how we are regarded differently depending on how we pass. " Suicide will not get you into heaven. But any other way that you can die, is okay. Why can't someone be saved AND commit suicide?
So you have this guy, putting make-up on what I think, are cutting scars on his arm. The first stanza describes what he goes through to keep this hidden. Maybe he uses a swiss army knife on his keychain or the keys themselves to cut.
Second stanza, he's replaying what he does and other's responses over in his head like:
Other: Why are you using make-up? Him:..I wanted to Other: Why are you putting it on your arms? Him: I wanted to Other: Uh why did you leave your keys on the table?
Him: Shit, I have to think of a reason for me to have left them there (create another fable).
The next part, he's being a little sarcastic when he says "trust in my self-righteous suicide" and that it makes him cry to think that just because "I'm depressed, why does that make me deserving to die and not go to heaven?" Other than wanting to kill himself, he is an angel in every other aspect.
At the end, I think he's praying. He's asking God to save him "I commend my spirit." But he feels God has forsaken him by creating him, giving him feelings, and ultimately, depression. He feels forsaken because the Creator will let everyone else into heaven, who commends their spirit to Him as long as they don't kill themselves. That's the only caveat...be saved, you're okay. Be saved and commit suicide, you're screwed.
That's just me personally...I'm interested to see what other people think of my interpretation.
@Belljar84 , your interpretation nailed it. I always think that this song is about suicide and just like Jesus, he got some last words for our Father in heaven. He felt like he was forsaken by God, but he still want to commend his spirit to God. Although going into heaven is impossible if you kill yourself. You sum it up and elaborate it better, and thank you for your very nice interpretation.
I've read through a few comments here and it seems to me that alot of people are way off what I think is the most obvious interpretation of this song.
Verse:
Based on my own experience from growing up with psychic and physical abuse from my fosterfather, it hits me right away how similar these lines are to what I would hear. The verse perfectly nails the terror, pressure and intensity from the father's frustration and rage, who's blaming his child for his abusive behaviour (you wanted to). At the same time the father demands that he should wake up/step up and be a man, instead of looking small and shaken (hide the scars to fade away the shakeup), be strong, put a smiling mask on and act like nothing wrong has ever happened (wake up, grab a brush and put a little makeup). The father is acting like this in fear of his childs depression/sadness provoking suspicion about his behaviour, and wants him to hide it. A child growing up in an environment like this is not likely to be able to realize the wrongs of his father, and is more likely to adapt to his fathers blames and start accusing himself, feeling shameful about it and hiding it, thinking that whatever happens is something he deserves, becoming self-destructive (When angels deserve to die). Angels in this case refers to the innocent children/victims of abuse.
Chorus:
Now this also seems familiar to me. Growing up in a christian community usually means you're thaught to seek comfort in Jesus - and I believe it tries to describe the paradox when the child interprets his life as being forsaken and let down by the promises of the bible, or any notion/opposition that would claim that if he lives an acceptable life and "commends his spirit", his life would become better. He have though, due to his childhood and his fathers mockery, developed a behaviour that would make him vulnerable in any social situation, and he would easily find himself being the victim of abuse in school or to anyone who would want to boast upon him. I believe this compares to how he tries in vain to live up to his fathers demands in a similar manner to how he feels that he commends his spirit in vain to the bible. The question is: can you really blame anyone that experienced something like this to turn his back on everything and commit a suicide? He felt guilty and self-righteous about it, and certainly felt he deserved to die. I get chills whenever I hear this song, because it is, at least the way I see it, a extremely sad story.
This song becomes really interesting if you're able to see how the concept is true on so many levels, and not only in the home of domestic violence, although one of the brilliant things about lyrics like these, is how they are open for your personal interpretation.
i love this reply! i completely agree!
We've lived similar lives
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I have read a lot of interpretations on this song, and many off them are deep and logical, but I have yet to find a single explanation that covers every aspect of the lyrics. I tried to take the song very directly and make conclusions on what I heard. Here goes nothing.
The beginning of this song talks about a person who is trying to cover up their problems so that everyone else thinks that they are totally fine. We know that the person is going through hard times because they talk about how he wants to hide "scars" to fade away the "shake up" (fight). We see that the person is trying to hide it on the outside (grab a brush and put on a little make-up, hide the scars...)but, of course, the problems, whatever they may happen to be, won't go away. Now, the speaker states that others don't understand his self-righteous suiside. Of course they wouldn't understand, they just see his outside, not his cold, troubled inside.
Now for the "father" stanza. Apparently this is a quote from Jesus before he died for us on the cross, but I don't think that this stanza actually refers to Jesus. First off, I m positive that the speaker is talking to God, not his dad, because if he is going to die, why and how could he command his spirit to his dad, it just doesn't make any sense. Anyway, I think that the the speaker is angry at God for bringing him so much misfortune, hence the "Why have you forsaken me..." bit. Think about it. Living day in and day out having to hide a secret from the rest of the world that keeps bitting him in the rear end. Sounds like a pretty sad life if you ask me. I think that he is handing over his spirit to God now in hopes that God can bring him a sort of peace.
For the "Why'd you leave the keys up on the table" line, I think that this symbolizes that the speaker (although I don't know if he is the one who actually quoted this)has given up on his life. You see, keys give you access to your home, to that vast majority of you. Leaving them somewhere kind of hints that he doesn't care enough to keep track of his own lifeline, that he has left them for someone to find. Lastly, the "I cry when angels deserve to die" line symbolizes his death, how sad others will be when a "perfect, happy, carefree" guy kills himself
I totaly agree with this interpretation thanks
@ROCKER094. its about church and people who dont believe in jesus choice to kill himself or not.....
@ROCKER094 your interpertation of this song is spot on but going deeper into "whyd You put the keys up on the table" verse.when You go to move out of a house the last thing You do is leave the keys on the table.i think this verse is a comparison of the person making his last preperations before he takes his life.
Ok, this probably means absolutely shit to all of you but after reading the Book of Nod, me and my friend have a theory on what it could mean. We think it refers to the biblical story of Cain[e].
Allow me to explain...
"Wake up"-everyone in the town had to make a weekly offering on the morning (of Sunday I assume). Cain was a fruit farmer, his brother Abel was a cattle farmer...Cain would sacrifice his best fruit, Abel would sacrifice his best cows. God was displeased with Caine, because he gave so much less than his brother.
"Hide the scars to fade away the shakeup"-After killing Abel, Cain acted as if he did not know what happened to him.
"Why'd you leave the keys(kids?) upon the table?"-In this case, "kids" would make more sense since Cain killed Abel on the altar for offerings.
"Here we go create another fable"-The murder of Abel by Caine was the start of one of the many well known biblical plots.
"You wanted to"-This could have something to do with the fact that all the while Cain was just trying to please God and it got out of hand. This could also be a reference to religious fanatics.
"I dont think you trust in my self-righteous suicide"-No one, including God, thought Cain had done the right thing, and as Cain probably knew, it's not the best idea to piss God off.(it's practically suicide. Get it?)
"I cry when angels deserve to die"-Cain was really mad at God for punishing him so severely, thinking the punishment did not fit the crime, so to speak.
"Father into your hands, I commend my spirit/Why have you forsaken me?"-Though these are both direct quotes from Jesus when he was being crucified, they hold decidedly more weight for Cain. Cain actually was forsaken by God, that was part of his punishment.
So there you have it. Maybe this isnt the intended meaning of the song(if it DOES have an intended meaning at all,which I'm starting to doubt:-)) But I think it's pretty uncanny how all these things can be applied to the story. Don't get me wrong though, I'm not insisting that I'm right, I'm just putting in my 2 cents and thinking maybe, to someone, it's worth reading.
It could be about some young girl being abused by her father..wearing make up to cover the scars..making fables to explain them..it says i commend my spirit and u forsaken me is like i loved u and now your hurting me..idk i have 100s of interpretations for this song
Those are both very interesting takes on it, but I think it mostly has to do with a person that wants to commit suicide because they are forsaken because of their change of beliefs, and they also can't deal with the dullness of a very fast routine.
I elaborate more on it on the very last comment (41st page, all the way down)
The assumptions people make out of lyrics. And now how about we have the real meaning behind it.
Chop Suey is about Serj's friend Lynn, from the band snot. He died in a car accident and Serj considered Lynn to be his angel, which is why Chop Suey was originally called Angel, it was changed to Chop Suey because that's what Lynns favourite food is.
"Grab a brush and put on a little makeup" - When you're at a funeral and you have an open casket they put makeup on the body. Which leads to "Hide the scares to fade away the shakeup".. Pretty self explainitory.
This song is about suicide!
Nothing more,nothing!
Okay, this song is starting to make sense to me, it is in fact about the Armenian genocide, but it's riddled with metaphors and allusions. The first verse can be interpreted literally about being about a suicidal person hiding the fact they are self harming, but in the broader sense it gives the feeling of being in a hurry, being in an emergency, but you are still caught up in doing little mundane tasks, liking putting on makeup and looking for car keys. I think this is about people panicking, not realizing that they are about to be forced away from their homes forever if they don't die. The heavy rifting sounds remnant of a military attack. Maybe time the verse is literal, the second time it's the day of the attack, signified by the screamed DI
Now, for the chorus, I think the one, suicide isn't literal just as it wasn't literal last verse, and by "I" he means "we". I think self-righteous suicide refers to general martyrdom, not suicide bombing. See, with martyrdom one is responsible for their death because they refuse to compromise their faith, and it's self righteous because the matyr believes they are doing a righteous deed. Now, the importance of I being we is that it extends it to the whole Armenian people. Now, the genocide was an ethic cleansing delivered by the Ottoman, and like most ethnic tension their is difference in religion, here the Ottoman being Muslim and the Armenians being christian. That's what makes the genocide a martyrdom. The angels deserving to die refers to all the innocent lives that were shed during the tragedy, the verse appears to be about a priest or someone asking how such a tragedy could happen to such a righteous people? Also, the deserving to die part might reflect the lack of attention given to the massacre.
With the next verse the idea of martyrdom is reiterated by alluding to Jesus's crucifixion. The "why have you forsaken me" part refers to how even though the Armenians believed they were righteous they found no deliverance.
In the end I think the song can be summed up by saying that the Armenians were killed for their beliefs just like the Jews were in the holocaust, but no one gave a damn about the Armenians. The Turks continue to deny the tragedy to this day.
Bro.<br /> You are on some kind of amazing level. This helped me so much. I mean, I got the literal interpretation of suicide in the first verse, but you, sir/madam, seriously delved here.<br /> To show my gratitude, you get a cookie. ^_^
Outstanding! I did not make the connection to Serg being Armenian by descent until you posted this. Thanks!
@Ganondox Disagree. Not genocide, this song is about Suicide - this was made clear in interview and was even the original title.Genocide and suicide are not concepts that you'd put together - martyrdom yes, but thats not what genocide is about at all. There is no choice there. Also I think to read every song of theirs (or anyone) through the lens of their ethnicity is problematic. Armenians can write about genocide, but they also don't have to do so every single time you know. It's a limiting way to look at the work of any artist.
@blackaliss<br /> <br /> Did you even read my comment beyond the first line? I addressed all the stuff about suicide. Anyway, this song was clearly meant to be read through the eyes on Armenian ethnicity considering the Armenian flag is thrown during the music video, and some of it's lyrics were allegedly taken from a poem by Father Armeni.
@Ganondox Yes I did read it and I said I disagree.... wow
@blackaliss<br /> <br /> You can disagree, but you also be plain wrong. When you're commenting on things I've already addressed as if I didn't know about it, you're just being ignorant.
And I explained why. By the way not every song and video are parallel. Song can be about one thing when written and video can have a different vision/idea. See Bjork's Hunter, which many people think is about Ricardo Lopez because of its video but the song was not written about him (as explained by Bjork herself).
Also chill, not everyone has to agree with you. You down voted this the moment I commented, like a knee jerk. You need to accept not everyone will agree with you about everything. I was not disrespectful to you yet your only explanation for why someone might disagree is because they didn't read your comment beyond the first line. It's just a song interpretation site and I'm a stranger you don't need to take it so serious. Good night!
You can down vote as much as you want I did not find your arguments convincing that's not gonna change. Just chill seriously wow..
I am not engaging with this any more - you don't know who I am. I could very well be Armenian and a scholar with a Phd or a friend of someone in the band... But you call me ignorant because I don't agree with you. (More than one of the above is true by the way).
@blackaliss<br /> <br /> I'm not downvoting your comments because I disagree, it's because you are being aggressive and attacking me based on ignorance. The one who needs to chill is the one who made four comments in a row expressing frustration about being downvoted.
@Ganondox This is the best interpretation I've read about this song. It covers all the bases and actually makes sense. I always assumed it was about a suicide bomber, but that didn't address all the lyrics, just a couple lines.<br /> <br /> This entire song as a whole makes sense when viewed through the lens of the Armenian Genocide. Obviously not every song they make is about their heritage, however, they are known for being "political" in some songs. And let's face it, this is one of their most powerful songs.
@Ganondox And how you saw any resemblance to the Armenian genocide out of this is beyond me.<br /> <br /> In, my, self righteous suicide<br /> <br /> Is oxygen moronic statement in light of the over all context. The written knows this.<br /> <br /> The Armenian Holocaust was responsible for about 1.5 million deaths where the Jewish Holocaust about 6 million European Jews and 17 million victims. Hitler almost ruled the World. It's not that no one cared it was the magnitude of it. There are genocides going on today. The Holocaust was noted because it was the worst one known to man. That one might stick out in my mind more because it directly effected me in the sense I never knew my grandfather who was a Japanese POW...
@Ganondox <br /> <br /> "In an interview, Daron Malakian explained, "The song is about how we are regarded differently depending on how we pass. Everyone deserves to die. Like, if I were now to die from drug abuse, they might say I deserved it because I abused dangerous drugs. Hence the line, 'I cry when angels deserve to die'. The lyric passages 'Father, into your hands I commend my spirit' and 'why have you forsaken me?' are a reference to Jesus' death on the cross, as, according to the Gospels, it was one of the seven things Jesus said while dying."<br /> <br /> The record company made them change the word suicide to self righteous suicide. Oxymoronic describes self righteous suicide. Sharp but dull seeing how you don't know the term and are to lazy to look it up. You are stupid and just plain moronic. lmao... This band is Armenian American... You just wrote that about the Armenian holocaust that happened in 1915-23 so you can suck a penis. lmao<br /> <br /> The Sultan of the Ottoman Empire was a Muslim who had absolute power. The only thing you had right was they went after Christians and Turkey denies it BUT that fact has nothing to do with this song as I have proven you wrong again.
@KingTrips as if they could say that they meant Muslim genocide againt Christianity. Considering Muslimphilic hysteria in Western world. Your points are pathetic and don't stand the criticism. Everything in the song points at Armenian genocide, even Serj in his songs and interviews later pointed that he always wanted and tried to raise awareness about this genocide. I understand and respect other's opinions, until they try to shove it in everyone's mouth. But you somehow are being an angry idiot who cant stand different opinions and suggests to suck a pеnis if somebody disagrees. How about you do it instead? Would serve your personality well.